Anti-pick (Who do you not want to see?)

[Yantha]

11 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

so you dont like Tre White?

I'm a Bills fan, so therefore I'm rooting for White every Sunday.

 

From a draft prospect standpoint, I prefer taller corners.

[MrEpsYtown]

18 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

I heard hes got t-rex arms

 

It is the one position on the O line where it doesn't really matter. We have a center with 8.5 inch hands. Linderbaum's arms are slightly shorter than Alex Mack and a bit longer than Nick Mangold. Now is he small? Yep. Is arms the issue? Nope. It has more to do with weight and girth with him and how he deals with heavy nose tackles. 

 

I'll just add, with Lindy and McDuffie and guys like that, this is where NFL people get dumb and overthink it. Those guys are unbelievable. So you are gonna take some raw division 3 guy who never played against anyone because he has longer arms? It happens time and time again and is just wrong so many times. 

[OldTimer1960]

1 hour ago, falgobofu said:

I hear all the 'no IOL' but to think we could have the best rated Center to ever play the game I would be ecstatic. Someone to grow with Allen, play behind Morse a year and possibly start if Morse gets a concussion. We could have the anchor to our O Line for a decade if not more. Maholmes had Morse and became a monster, Allen gets Morse and has a phenomenal trajectory. I believe this shows how crucial an elite center can be. I would never advocate for an IOL in the past but this year im liking it. 

 

As to answer to who I dont want to see drafted, N. Dean and any Edge Rusher.

I think that is too high of praise for Linderbaum.  Very good prospect, but “best center to ever play”?

[TBBills]

No one with small hands,  small wingspan, small...

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, DasNootz said:

I'm interested to see what player you're really adverse to picking that you're currently seeing mocked to the Bills.  

Mine is Kaiir Elam who I think takes too many penalties and is a mediocre tackler.  With a run of CBs early, there's a chance he's the best available CB if we don't move up - at that point I really hope we go with another position.

Mine is Kaiir Elam because he’s a poor and unwilling tackler.  And I want a CB, if reasonable. 

[RocCityRoller]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

Do not want to see a RD1 Defensive Pick, unless it's an unlikely trade-up for Sauce. 

 

What if one of the top 2-3 S is available? We have the Poyer contract issue going on, and both Poyer and Hyde are over 30.

There is a good chance S may be BPA.

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, MWK said:

Isaiah Spiller (SLOW), Kaiir Elam, Any guard, defensive tackle, or safety in the first round. 

 

Pretty much anything else is ok with me. 

 

 

Do you think Spillers slow because of his 40 time or have you actually watched him play a good amount? 

 

Because I've watched him play for years and he plays a lot faster than his 40 time 

 

He has been tripped up from behind like once when he's running away from people in space 

 

Somebody's going to get a good running back in the second or third round

Edited April 26, 2022 by Buffalo716

[RocCityRoller]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

This is all accurate re the importance of the Center..

 

The only issue is we don't know how many more years Morse plays and unless he can play Guard he could be on the bench 1 or 2 seasons.  

 

We need a starter or immediate impact.  

I also like C for the reasons stated. If Linderbaum was the 1st or 2nd round pick it is likely Morse would be cut/traded next off season to clear up cap space and help keep a number of younger players coming due for extensions.

[TBBills]

I hope we don't draft Tremaine Edmunds.

Edited April 26, 2022 by TBBills

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Posted before, last year I would have been fine with Najee Harris in round 1. This year I would not even draft a RB. Singletary is good enough.  

[VirginiaMike]

Jahon Dotson.  Really any wide receiver!

[Devilmann]

I just don’t want to see another edge rusher taken at all in this draft. I think we can afford to let that dog rest for a year. 

[KCNC]

I trust McBeane so much I don't really care.  They'll make whoever they pick a great Buffalo Bill. (I really would rather they trade out of the 1st, but if I have to stay up that late.....)

[Awwufelloff]

RB in 1st round

[transplantbillsfan]

Zion Johnson (or any IOL) in the 1st.  I realize we need another Guard, but I really don't want to see one in the 1st. 

[Floydboy12]

Any freakishly athletic looking linebacker who when you watch him on film always seems to be coming into the frame just as the play has ended. 

[Bruffalo]

I'm gonna lose my mind if we draft another DE or IDL.  I was almost okay with the back to back DE pick last year but the room was so crowded we barely even got to develop our young talent.  It would be the same problem again this year if we draft a D-Lineman.

[MWK]

2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Do you think Spillers slow because of his 40 time or have you actually watched him play a good amount? 

 

Because I've watched him play for years and he plays a lot faster than his 40 time 

 

He has been tripped up from behind like once when he's running away from people in space 

 

Somebody's going to get a good running back in the second or third round

Yes I have watched him, was never impressed. 

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

It is the one position on the O line where it doesn't really matter. We have a center with 8.5 inch hands. Linderbaum's arms are slightly shorter than Alex Mack and a bit longer than Nick Mangold. Now is he small? Yep. Is arms the issue? Nope. It has more to do with weight and girth with him and how he deals with heavy nose tackles. 

 

I'll just add, with Lindy and McDuffie and guys like that, this is where NFL people get dumb and overthink it. Those guys are unbelievable. So you are gonna take some raw division 3 guy who never played against anyone because he has longer arms? It happens time and time again and is just wrong so many times. 

Devils advocate a bit here... but I've heard theories about why what's seemingly only an inch or two one way, can become pretty amplified when talking about disrupting passing lanes, and the ball having to take fairly different trajectories (increases difficulty of throws, disrupts timing/ effect WRs ability to get to "their spot", keeps the ball in the air longer).

 

I cant pretend to understand the game at that level, maybe someone else here can... maybe this is total horse ****. Honestly I'm not even intending to play Devils advocate here, as much as just sharing an interesting theory. 

 

 

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, MWK said:

Yes I have watched him, was never impressed. 

I don't think one scout has ever called him slow just because of his 40 time

 

Is he the best running back in the class ? No 

 

But he Played behind the weakest offensive line out of all the top running backs in this class.. consistently produced

 

And like I said was maybe caught from behind once in 3 years... He plays a lot faster than that 40 time 

 

He's not a burner but he isn't slow 

 

[DasNootz]

On 4/26/2022 at 11:34 AM, DasNootz said:

I'm interested to see what player you're really adverse to picking that you're currently seeing mocked to the Bills.  

Mine is Kaiir Elam who I think takes too many penalties and is a mediocre tackler.  With a run of CBs early, there's a chance he's the best available CB if we don't move up - at that point I really hope we go with another position.

This didn't age well.  I will happily be proven wrong!

[Taro Nimbus]

On 4/26/2022 at 12:13 PM, gonzo1105 said:

Kaiir Elam by far would be one that would make me cringe. I’m not against really anyone else. I find more guys valuable than others but unless it’s a huge reach I’ll be content

how you feeling right now?

[NewEra]

@Virgil

[Virgil]

Just now, NewEra said:

@Virgil

I mean, c’mon.  I had to

[NewEra]

Just now, Virgil said:

I mean, c’mon.  I had to

….. sigh. Why does this happen?

 

oh well.  He’ll be a good player.  I don’t doubt that.  I’m just shocked that they drafted a corner that tackles like he does.  He fits what they like and he has wheels.  I’m sure I’ll be very happy about the player once he improves.  

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

….. sigh. Why does this happen?

 

oh well.  He’ll be a good player.  I don’t doubt that.  I’m just shocked that they drafted a corner that tackles like he does.  He fits what they like and he has wheels.  I’m sure I’ll be very happy about the player once he improves.  

If there’s one position I have faith in McD to make the most out of, it’s DB.  I like his speed and I’m sure he will be fine.  We can honestly now just go BPA for the rest of the draft.  
 

I think we go LB and TE next, probably a punter, another DB, and. WR

[NewEra]

Just now, Virgil said:

If there’s one position I have faith in McD to make the most out of, it’s DB.  I like his speed and I’m sure he will be fine.  We can honestly now just go BPA for the rest of the draft.  
 

I think we go LB and TE next, probably a punter, another DB, and. WR

I really hope we stay away from LB unless its Troy Anderson.  I’d MUCH rather have a Wr, RB or OL.  Would be nice if we had our 4th round to to maneuver up to mid 2nd……. Siiiiiiiiigh.  Traded up for elam….. 🧱 

[Virgil]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I really hope we stay away from LB unless its Troy Anderson.  I’d MUCH rather have a Wr, RB or OL.  Would be nice if we had our 4th round to to maneuver up to mid 2nd……. Siiiiiiiiigh.  Traded up for elam….. 🧱 

They met with a ton of Day 2 linebackers.  I wonder if they plan to let Edmunds walk and give the kid a year to learn the system, maybe play some OLB this year.   

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, Virgil said:

They met with a ton of Day 2 linebackers.  I wonder if they plan to let Edmunds walk and give the kid a year to learn the system, maybe play some OLB this year.   

Yeah, could definitely be the case.  The rest of our draft could certainly be drafting Edmunds, Poyers and Saffolds eventual replacements. 
 

Glad we got a big fast corner without t-Rex arms though 

[Virgil]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yeah, could definitely be the case.  The rest of our draft could certainly be drafting Edmunds, Poyers and Saffolds eventual replacements. 
 

Glad we got a big fast corner without t-Rex arms though 

 

 

 

Just watching him cover crossing routes sealed why McD wants him.  
 

Also, looks like he has not problems tackling to me. 
 

When I read the scouting report, it started by saying he’s great at press in zone coverages.  If that’s not a scheme fit, I don’t know what is 

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

 

 

Just watching him cover crossing routes sealed why McD wants him.  
 

Also, looks like he has not problems tackling to me. 
 

When I read the scouting report, it started by saying he’s great at press in zone coverages.  If that’s not a scheme fit, I don’t know what is 

He’s great in coverage.  No problems there.
 

you’re watching highlights…..of course you don’t see problems with tackling.  
 

he is a scheme fit.  I agree.  I don’t hate the player.  I just really liked other players more and hate that we traded up for him.  Def would’ve loved to have Booth or Hill.  But McD can make it work. He’ll be a fine player for us as long as he improves his tackling.  Which he should 

Edited April 29, 2022 by NewEra

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

He’s great in coverage.  No problems there.
 

you’re watching highlights…..of course you don’t see problems with tackling.  

What else am I supposed to watch, actual film 🤢🤮

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

What else am I supposed to watch, actual film 🤢🤮

If you want to see his weaknesses on screen, yeah.  You must

[clayboy54]

For what its worth, his tackling issues seem to be technique related. He can be coached on his technique. He has the desire to be better. I see a guy with a very high ceiling and willing attitude. Plus, he can start out of the gate and will keep getting better with age.

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, clayboy54 said:

For what its worth, his tackling issues seem to be technique related. He can be coached on his technique. He has the desire to be better. I see a guy with a very high ceiling and willing attitude. Plus, he can start out of the gate and will keep getting better with age.

 

McD turned an undrafted free agent in Levi Wallace into a capable starting corner, T.Johnson into a stud slot corner, early returns on Dane are solid and T.White turned out to be an All-Pro. I trust they know how to find corners that fit their system.

[Just Joshin']

3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

McD turned an undrafted free agent in Levi Wallace into a capable starting corner, T.Johnson into a stud slot corner, early returns on Dane are solid and T.White turned out to be an All-Pro. I trust they know how to find corners that fit their system.

Agree - many thought that they can coach up a low round pick but can't coach up better tackling technique.  You can teach tackling, can't teach speed.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Any more CB

 

 

[Airseven]

I do not want to see another trade up.

[MrEpsYtown]

13 hours ago, NewEra said:

I really hope we stay away from LB unless its Troy Anderson.  I’d MUCH rather have a Wr, RB or OL.  Would be nice if we had our 4th round to to maneuver up to mid 2nd……. Siiiiiiiiigh.  Traded up for elam….. 🧱 

 

12 hours ago, Virgil said:

They met with a ton of Day 2 linebackers.  I wonder if they plan to let Edmunds walk and give the kid a year to learn the system, maybe play some OLB this year.   

 

I think they come away with Anderson or Brandon Smith somewhere in the draft. I like both. I like Chenal too. But Andersen and Smith fit the prototype. I love Smith. I get why a lot of people don't. 

 

D'Marco Jackson seems like their type as well. 

[T master]

I was surprised that Beane had Elam so highly picked on their board & was willing to trade up for him i didn't see that one coming !

 

I thought from the talk the kid from Clemson was a better fit all around for the Bills but i trust what Beane decides he hasn't really missed a lot to this point .