billsfan1959 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: First thing I thought of when we signed him was all the Edmunds haters will come out and talk about the missed tackle when they were up 21-3. Never underestimate the ability of some posters to turn any thread into an "Edmunds sucks" thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said: Pretty sure he had a huge shoulder injury but ya it was pathetic tackle I don’t need to watch I remember it clearly I believe that play was what resulted in the shoulder injury...and another Upper body injury... A Bruised Ego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ExWNYer Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: Top 51 applies only from the opening of the league year through the opening of regular season. At the beginning of the season all salaries have to fit under the cap. Clearly, the Bills have plans to do this and are way ahead of any of us fans in terms of how. It just seems wild that the Bills continue to make signings that are relatively large numbers when by their own admission “they are right up against the cap.” I think a lot of this is probably just coach/GM 'speak'. They obviously have a number and know it but it's probably fluid and they don't want to get pinned down when asked. They are so buttoned down that most if not all of their signings have been a surprise to the fans. None of these seem to have been leaked prior to happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Never underestimate the ability of some posters to turn any thread into an "Edmunds sucks" thread... Watch the video. Sometimes it’s just too easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Watch the video. Sometimes it’s just too easy. I saw it when it happened. It was a missed tackle. Doesn't change my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Personally I think Kyler Gordon is better than both. But I think those three all likely to factor into the thinking. I would be fine with either Gordon or McDuffie at 25 but I would not be thrilled with Elam. I think he is more of a 2nd Round value. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 14 hours ago, Steptide said: Lots of one year deals for these players beane brought in. Gonna have some big cap hits next year with Allen and Miller. Roughly $58M or so for just those two players next year compared to only $21M this year for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I saw it when it happened. It was a missed tackle. Doesn't change my point. My point was about the video. If you watched it and it wasn’t the first thing that popped out then you’re as blinded as the Edmunds haters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: My point was about the video. If you watched it and it wasn’t the first thing that popped out then you’re as blinded as the Edmunds haters. I already was aware of it from when it happened. There was a lot of discussion about it at that time (and after) and I was very critical of it. The fact that I didn't feel the need to make a point about it in a thread about Crowder doesn't make me blinded to Edmunds' faults... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: I would be fine with either Gordon or McDuffie at 25 but I would not be thrilled with Elam. I think he is more of a 2nd Round value. JMO I agree with you. I think Elam is a little stiff in his movements, not a great tackler in run support and I worry a bit about his discipline once you ask him to play off coverage. He is at his best up in the face of the receiver. I think if the Bills wanted him (not sure he is as good of a scheme fit as the two Washington kids) the smart play would be to slide back 10-12 spots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 14 hours ago, BearNorth said: Re: Diggs, when this contract is up, do we let him hit the market. Jefferson is 23, and on a rookie contract Chase is 22, on a rookie contract Lamb is 23 on a rookie contract Davis is 23 on a rookie contract Higgins is 23 on a rookie contract Waddle is 23 on a rookie contract Seeing a pattern here I don't see how we will be able to afford him at an $18M cap hit at the age of 30 and when we will have to pay Allen and Miller big money. A time when WR production typically starts to decline. That said, we may be able to work some magic with a 2 or 3 year extension and get his 2023 cap hit down below $10M. His dead cap would only be $4M for 2023 so he would absolutely be a cut candidate from a balance sheet perspective. A lot would depend on how he does this year and how Davis looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 14 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Crowder, Kumarov…seems to be the order to me. McKenzie is still a big mystery. I'd pencil Crowder in as the #3 for now based on his experience. I expect a big jump in snaps for McKenzie but I think Crowder will probably out snap him over the course of the entire season if he stays healthy. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: McKenzie is still a big mystery. I'd pencil Crowder in as the #3 for now based on his experience. I expect a big jump in snaps for McKenzie but I think Crowder will probably out snap him over the course of the entire season if he stays healthy. I think Crowder will go into camp as the starter, but that is a genuine position battle IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: Never underestimate the ability of some posters to turn any thread into an "Edmunds sucks" thread... They do take every opportunity to go on a rant don’t they, let’s start a punter thread and bait them into it again 🤫 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: They do take every opportunity to go on a rant don’t they, let’s start a punter thread and bait them into it again 🤫 Dude, the Crowder highlight video was posted so I watched it. The Edmunds missed tackle jumped off the video. It was Crowder’s only highlight where he broke a tackle and took it to the house. The Edmunds’ apologists are probably more annoying than his haters at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 15 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: A few highlights from Crowder Kind of reinforces my impression of him. Very effective slot guy, very sharp on his cuts as evidenced by the number of defensive players falling over themselves at the top of his routes. First down machine. If the Bills get the Crowder who plays against the Bills they lose nothing in the slot from 2020 and upgrade over 2021. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Greg S said: I definitely think they go CB in Rd 1. After that who knows. Corner is the biggest concern/priority for this team. Who’s the RG protecting our franchise 17? That’s currently our biggest need imo. Yes, corner is a HUGE need….but it means nothing if josh allen is injured 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 15 hours ago, HOUSE said: Another good compilation. Apart from the punt-catching and defenders falling, look at the separation he gains at the top of the routes. That’s what the guy with “uncoverable inside 10 yards” comment pages back was alluding to. The question will be, will he and Allen read zones the way Allen and Beasley did, that would be nearly unstoppable. Crowder always destroyed man coverage like Beasley never did. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Somehow i dont think hes going to catch a ton of passes, with all the other talent around him. Depends upon how well the other guys are covered, and whether (avert!) one of them gets hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Dude, the Crowder highlight video was posted so I watched it. The Edmunds missed tackle jumped off the video. It was Crowder’s only highlight where he broke a tackle and took it to the house. The Edmunds’ apologists are probably more annoying than his haters at this point. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, NewEra said: Who’s the RG protecting our franchise 17? That’s currently our biggest need imo. Yes, corner is a HUGE need….but it means nothing if josh allen is injured Bates, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Dude, the Crowder highlight video was posted so I watched it. The Edmunds missed tackle jumped off the video. It was Crowder’s only highlight where he broke a tackle and took it to the house. The Edmunds’ apologists are probably more annoying than his haters at this point. Have you done enough research to know that he wasn’t even in Edmonds responsibility Edmonds was just the one that attempted to chase him down I don’t know if Edmonds is the long term answer here but you need to do more research Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 16 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: Let's see, Duke from Miami, Jamison from the Jets, so who from NE? Mac Jones can hold Josh's jock strap - well actually, he can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Success said: I swear - I honestly thought this would be a really quiet FA for the Bills. When they signed Settle, I was like "there's the splash." Beane really wasn't happy after that KC game. This is why I do not believe a word that Beane says when he's being interviewed about planning for free agency. He gave everyone the idea that the Bills would be mildly active with zero "splash" signings and focusing on our own players. Beane is great at not showing his hand. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: A few highlights from Crowder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz8SSjC9ycM 16 hours ago, HOUSE said: https://youtu.be/6elmr5Dw4KM Good videos! Thanks for posting. 1. for a guy who ran a 4.56 40-yd, he looks to play a helluvalot faster than that - especially in the highlights from Washington What's the scoop there, anyone know? Or where's someone with "scout eyes" to look at the highlights? 2. seems to have good field vision. makes good use of blockers and cuts to make guys miss. 3. I could be crazy, but couldn't help being struck by how the footballs in Wash. (from Cousins and Smith) seemed to zip in there and hit Crowder in stride, while he seemed to be waiting for the footballs thrown on the Jets (from Darnold). Could be a reason his YAC really fell off in NYC vs. Washington. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 We haven’t signed ANYONE today WTH is going ???? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Bates, no? He’s a restricted FA. Free to sign with another team. We have the right to match the offer. If he leaves, we get zero compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said: Just stay healthy and I think it's a solid move. I'm still all about a WR in the draft though Ive read the WR class is deep this year. I think all things being equal (BPA) the Bills draft a CB first round....possibly making a move up to grab a coveted player? If Beane and company truly are in Win NOW mode I dont think it's outside the realm of possibility for he to pull the trigger on something like that........With Brandon Beane I discount no possibility. Welcome to Buffalo Mr Crowder. Bring your A game and lets make the Lombardi happen for WNY. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s a restricted FA. Free to sign with another team. We have the right to match the offer. If he leaves, we get zero compensation. Right, he only leaves if we choose not to match... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: This is why I do not believe a word that Beane says when he's being interviewed about planning for free agency. He gave everyone the idea that the Bills would be mildly active with zero "splash" signings and focusing on our own players. Beane is great at not showing his hand. with me the thing about Beane is he speaks in such a sincere honest manner I have to remind myself he is a consumate professional and would Never fully outline all of his strategies and plans to the public. I used to think all GM's blew smoke right? With Beane I trust what he says and wonder what else he is thinking/planning that is Unsaid. But I dont consider him a phony or BS type guy at all. He's a GM badass lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills92 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I apologize if this has already been said.. but when you compare Beasley's numbers before joining the Bills and Crowder's numbers before signing with the Bills... it's kinda scary how alike they are.. .To the point, both of their best seasons (yardage wise) before going to the BIlls was 833 yards. Another solid pickup by BBB. The season could not start soon enough for me Go Bills! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: You don’t remember the 80 yard TD that was all YAC against us this year? it was the only play the jets made against the Bills all year I dont remember that play because it never happened, his longest catch the last year was 29 yARDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Right, he only leaves if we choose not to match... Yes, but teams have been known to concoct really complex offer sheets in the past [e.g. Bills & Clay] that may preclude a team from wanting/being able to match. I'm sure Kromer was consulted by McBeane before they made the decision on what type of tender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Yes, but teams have been known to concoct really complex offer sheets in the past [e.g. Bills & Clay] that may preclude a team from wanting/being able to match. I'm sure Kromer was consulted by McBeane before they made the decision on what type of tender. Until Bates gets poached by an offer the Bills can't or won't match, he's the starting RG. How much of an offer can a guy who's made 4 regular season starts in his 3 year career get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Until Bates gets poached by an offer the Bills can't or won't match, he's the starting RG. How much of an offer can a guy who's made 4 regular season starts in his 3 year career get? Bates: ONE MILLION DOLLARS! Bates Agent: Don't you think we should ask for *more* than a million dollars? A million dollars isn't exactly a lot of money these days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Malazan said: Bates: ONE MILLION DOLLARS! Bates Agent: Don't you think we should ask for *more* than a million dollars? A million dollars isn't exactly a lot of money these days. Bates: ONE BILLION DOLLARS! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Who’s the RG protecting our franchise 17? That’s currently our biggest need imo. Yes, corner is a HUGE need….but it means nothing if josh allen is injured At this time, and until he presents an offer sheet the Bills refuse to match, that would be Ryan "Rick" Bates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Right, he only leaves if we choose not to match... yup. Which is entirely possible if another team decides to pull some contract shenanigans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: McKenzie is still a big mystery. I'd pencil Crowder in as the #3 for now based on his experience. I expect a big jump in snaps for McKenzie but I think Crowder will probably out snap him over the course of the entire season if he stays healthy. Great point! 17 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Kumarov?? However you spell his name lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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