Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Im hoping WR Jameson Williams falls to us do to his injury 6'2" 190 4.25-40 Very good hands accepts the ball fluidly on most throws and is ready to make a play afterward. Makes catches in traffic, even going up over taller defenders with vertical and toughness. He is a monster with his ability to stretch the field vertically and track the deep ball. Williams has been Alabama’s most productive pass catcher and he’s also had two kickoff return touchdowns. A slippery runner with elusive footwork. Has little to no wasted movements between the reception and burst upfield. Combines speed, balance, quickness, vision, and crisp cuts to leave defensive backs and linebackers in the dust. A pass-catcher that dominates at the start of a route due to his explosive quickness and short-area burst, his ability to couple his isolation skills with sure hands and YAC ability is the best in college football Fits a zone system, can sift through oncoming traffic and explode through tiny creases and cutback lanes. Elite, darting stop-and-go acceleration. A high school track star who won Missouri state championships in both the 300-meter hurdles and 400-meter dash. We estimate his forty yard dash time to be in the high 4.2's by the time the combine comes round Similar Crimson Tide standout and Denver Broncos first-rounder Jerry Jeudy, although even more explosive. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jameson-Williams-WR-OhioState. Edited March 17, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian 7 6 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Biggest wish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Drake London's size and work in the slot could make things dangerous too. As we still don't have any big WRs for the endzone, granted OJ Howard does help at 6'6" but a big slot guy like London replacing Beasley adds a dimension we could use but not sure count on any rookie to be as good as Beasley is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 If he's there at 25 and we don't take him, i'll be sick. I know we could use a CB, but he's a top 10 talent who would ONLY be there due to his injury. I don't even care if he and Tre miss the first quarter of the season, just get them going halfway through the season and ramped up for the Playoffs. 6 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Jerboski said: Biggest wish We could trade up if within range. We are out to win the Superbowl this year and making a bold move is the way to go. This team is so stacked that many of the picks wont make this team if they were to actually use all the picks. Edited March 18, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Agreed. Plus we can work him in slowly with lil Dirty back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Topic titles must reflect the content of the topic (and it must contain more than just a name). This helps to reduce the number of duplicate topics and makes the community much more user friendly. Please edit the title so that it properly reflects the discussion that you started. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Has he actually been clocked at 4.25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, The Jokeman said: Drake London's size and work in the slot could make things dangerous too. As we still don't have any big WRs for the endzone, granted OJ Howard does help at 6'6" but a big slot guy like London replacing Beasley adds a dimension we could use but not sure count on any rookie to be as good as Beasley is. Not a bad option but im not worried about the slot, we do have big WRs in Kumerow and Isaiah Hodgins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I honestly think John Metchie,later in the draft, can make a huge impact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Im hoping WR Jameson Williams falls to us do to his injury 6'2" 190 4.25-40 Very good hands accepts the ball fluidly on most throws and is ready to make a play afterward. Makes catches in traffic, even going up over taller defenders with vertical and toughness. He is a monster with his ability to stretch the field vertically and track the deep ball. Williams has been Alabama’s most productive pass catcher and he’s also had two kickoff return touchdowns. A slippery runner with elusive footwork. Has little to no wasted movements between the reception and burst upfield. Combines speed, balance, quickness, vision, and crisp cuts to leave defensive backs and linebackers in the dust. A pass-catcher that dominates at the start of a route due to his explosive quickness and short-area burst, his ability to couple his isolation skills with sure hands and YAC ability is the best in college football Fits a zone system, can sift through oncoming traffic and explode through tiny creases and cutback lanes. Elite, darting stop-and-go acceleration. A high school track star who won Missouri state championships in both the 300-meter hurdles and 400-meter dash. We estimate his forty yard dash time to be in the high 4.2's by the time the combine comes round Similar Crimson Tide standout and Denver Broncos first-rounder Jerry Jeudy, although even more explosive. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jameson-Williams-WR-OhioState. How is his actual route running and hands? All the highlights I see of him are Kick Returns and Deep balls. We need someone who can also find the zone and make contested catches? @Bill from NYC Edited March 17, 2022 by Virgil 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: How is his actual route running and hands? All the highlights I see of him are Kick Returns and Deep balls. We need someone who can also find the zone and make contested catches? @Bill from NYC For now we need that speed and deep threat, he will learn over time and we have other guys that can do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Not a bad option but im not worried about the slot, we do have big WRs in Kumerow and Isaiah Hodgins Yeah umm between them I don't think they have 20 NFL catches, not guys I trust. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, The Jokeman said: Yeah umm between them I don't think they have 20 NFL catches, not guys I trust. trust me we'll be fine, we need speed, and like you said we have TEs for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Hate to break it to ya... this team is looking at CB's now that Levi is a Steeler 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: trust me we'll be fine, we need speed, and like you said we have TEs for that. Quickness is more important than deep speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Quickness is more important than deep speed. Isaiah McKenzie The shifty slot guys can be found latter, no need to go first round for them. Edited March 17, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I’d still rather have Olave, but I definitely support getting Josh another WR weapon in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I think it's likely that Williams misses at least half of the season. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, Rico said: I’d still rather have Olave, but I definitely support getting Josh another WR weapon in the 1st. I like Olave a lot and who knows who ends up the better player, but that 4.25 speed goes with Josh's big arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I like this general line of thinking. A big, physical WR who can fly can single handedly impact our wins total more easily than any other position except QB....and we already have that...but I still fear these guys will draft a F-ing Defensive lineman or some other wasted pick that demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of value. Would LOVE to see impact offensive weapon picks with our top pick or picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, 947 said: I think it's likely that Williams misses at least half of the season. Dont ruin this with facts 😅. But that could give us that late season push Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills83 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Olave would be my pick if he's there. Why take Williams, who couldn't beat him out, if the better route runner and better hands are available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I'm not sure how "need" oriented Beane is in the draft yet - but I'd be surprised if we didn't go w/ a CB or OL in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I like the idea, but am concerned that the severity of his injury may preclude him from ever having the same game-breaking ability that he showed in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Hate to break it to ya... this team is looking at CB's now that Levi is a Steeler Plenty of upgrades in the FA market if the cap allows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, BBills83 said: Olave would be my pick if he's there. Why take Williams, who couldn't beat him out, if the better route runner and better hands are available. SPEED !! we are in win now mode, we can always get better route runners later. 3 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: I like the idea, but am concerned that the severity of his injury may preclude him from ever having the same game-breaking ability that he showed in college. He'll be fine , with todays technology they can rebuild him. (6 million dollar man theme song 😄 ) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ben said: Has he actually been clocked at 4.25? Yes, in the 36-yard dash. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Success said: I'm not sure how "need" oriented Beane is in the draft yet - but I'd be surprised if we didn't go w/ a CB or OL in the 1st. I can see this as well but he also wants a deep threat and is why he signed Sanders last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, BBills83 said: Olave would be my pick if he's there. Why take Williams, who couldn't beat him out, if the better route runner and better hands are available. Agreed. If the evaluation is comparable, why take a guy who’s injured, especially at that position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Hate to break it to ya... this team is looking at CB's now that Levi is a Steeler The team could get a corner in the second round or beyond. Why do people always think we need to draft defense in the first? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Hate to break it to ya... this team is looking at CB's now that Levi is a Steeler Of course they are, but there’s still every likelihood they go WR in the first and CB in the second…it will all depend how the board falls… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Plenty of upgrades in the FA market if the cap allows. What's a cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) I’m partial to Calvin Austin in the 2nd, CB in the 1st... Edited March 17, 2022 by JaCrispy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Well, Jameson is one of my favorite whiskeys and this team could use some more Williams so yes, I like the idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrellsFinest Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: I’m partial to Calvin Austin... That would be my choice if we decided to get a CB in the 1st round. Then take him in the second! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I’m partial to Calvin Austin in the 2nd, CB in the 1st... Just any corner and only one specific WR? Sorry…don’t agree. You don’t just take a corner in the first because of need. That player has to have the right skill set and be the right fit first and foremost. Waiting until the end of the second is a dangerous spot if you are targeting one specific player. Let the board fall. If a WR you like is there in round one, then take him. Drafting for need is how we ended up with EJ Manuel. Edited March 17, 2022 by whorlnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 If his medical checks out I really doubt he is going to fall to us. We can hope. I'd like Chris Olave and put him in the slot and boom we have an insanely fast slot guy. Go cb in round 2 and guard round 3 and we are loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, aristocrat said: If his medical checks out I really doubt he is going to fall to us. We can hope. I'd like Chris Olave and put him in the slot and boom we have an insanely fast slot guy. Go cb in round 2 and guard round 3 and we are loaded. I agree. He will only fall if there isn’t a good report. If he is ahead of schedule then someone will take him before us. He’s gonna be really good. I think I’d rather have Dotson than olave. Dotson has the best hands in the draft and isn’t afraid of catching the ball in traffic. There are concerns about Olave and his lack of physicality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I’m partial to Calvin Austin in the 2nd, CB in the 1st... Trent McDuffie in the 1st Calvin Austin in the 2nd Tyler Smith in the 2nd via trade up CB2 SLOT RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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