BillsMafi$ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 17 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blainorama5 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Gabe who?? 😉 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 This BETTER be for the minimum. So sick of paying marginal special teams players big money for little contribution 7 2 8 1 1 7 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 The Special Teams Duke Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhode Island Red Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, MWK said: This BETTER be for the minimum. So sick of paying marginal special teams players big money for little contribution You and Ralph would’ve been great belly up to the bar, arguing over who pays for the next $3 round of Stroh’s… 22 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I think that all but guarantees Taiwan Jones is done. Kumerow got mixed in some as a gunner last year. They have signed Neal and he to contracts. Jones is about to turn 34.... so I think the timing is right. 11 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 "I hate the Bills' focus on Special Teams!!!" Signed, Those few posters 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rhode Island Red said: You and Ralph would’ve been great belly up to the bar, arguing over who pays for the next $3 round of Stroh’s… Or maybe I don't like wasting what little cap we have on special teams only players who can't do much of anything like Tyler Matakevich 2 2 4 1 6 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, H2o said: "I hate the Bills' focus on Special Teams!!!" Signed, Those few posters My god, can you imagine the furor that this board would have had around keeping Steve Tasker around for 12 seasons? 4 4 14 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think that all but guarantees Taiwan Jones is done. Kumerow got mixed in some as a gunner last year. They have signed Neal and he to contracts. Jones is about to turn 34.... so I think the timing is right. I just randomly looked up Jones stats after seeing this. He has 223 career rushing yards over 11 seasons. That's pretty incredible. Guy hung around 11 years as a special teamer/reserve RB. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: I just randomly looked up Jones stats after seeing this. He has 223 career rushing yards over 11 seasons. That's pretty incredible. Guy hung around 11 years as a special teamer/reserve RB. He was an elite gunner. That is gonna keep you employed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: My god, can you imagine the furor that this board would have had around keeping Steve Tasker around for 12 seasons? Also Mark Pike 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, MWK said: Or maybe I don't like wasting what little cap we have on special teams only players who can't do much of anything like Tyler Matakevich I have defended Matakevich plenty but his cap hit next year is high for a non-gunner, non-returner, non-kicker special teams player. I would try and extend him, lower the hit and spread the money out because he is a very good what they used to call 'wedge player' in teams but if that isn't possible I'd consider cutting him. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think that all but guarantees Taiwan Jones is done. Kumerow got mixed in some as a gunner last year. They have signed Neal and he to contracts. Jones is about to turn 34.... so I think the timing is right. That's my thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, MWK said: This BETTER be for the minimum. So sick of paying marginal special teams players big money for little contribution Then march downstairs and tell Beane, Kim! Show him who's boss! 🤬 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 We freed up cap space to resign a special teamer!? We love retreads! How about we take that and apply it to signing a decent O-lineman? Geez! 2 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, BillsDiehard said: We freed up cap space to resign a special teamer!? We love retreads! How about we take that and apply it to signing a decent O-lineman? Geez! You do understand that we need 53 players on the roster, right? 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: My god, can you imagine the furor that this board would have had around keeping Steve Tasker around for 12 seasons? Yea, if only NFL wasn't trying to find ways to eliminate specials teams. This ain't your grandpas football anymore. signing guys who only play special teams to anything more than minimum or slightly above is bad. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, MWK said: This BETTER be for the minimum. So sick of paying marginal special teams players big money for little contribution Your killing me,😁 “this better be for league minimum “ or what? Are you gonna go on a rant, and subject all of us to your musings…?, nuthin but luv dude, but really…? Beane is in a tight financial position, he needs a hand full of above average players at important positions, he’s not giving JK the keys to the city, Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Seriously, a 30-year old special teams player! We can't find that in the later rounds of the draft!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Yea, if only NFL wasn't trying to find ways to eliminate specials teams. This ain't your grandpas football anymore. signing guys who only play special teams to anything more than minimum or slightly above is bad. Nonsense. Gunners and returners especially still have value and the Bills are not the only team to think that. 2 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said: Seriously, a 30-year old special teams player! We can't find that in the later rounds of the draft!? I am sure there is not a lot of guaranteed money in this deal and it will be a cheap deal. If they find a better, cheaper, alternative in the draft they will cut Kumerow before the season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I fully support this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Nonsense. Gunners and returners especially still have value and the Bills are not the only team to think that. I am sure there is not a lot of guaranteed money in this deal and it will be a cheap deal. If they find a better, cheaper, alternative in the draft they will cut Kumerow before the season. We need the $$$ now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, BillsDiehard said: We need the $$$ now! We also need 90 guys to take to camp. What you planning on doing, signing 50 UDFAs? 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, H2o said: "I hate the Bills' focus on Special Teams!!!" Signed, Those few posters Particularly when they focus on it and then it lets them down in the biggest game of the year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Punts and kickoffs can't be dispensed with soon enough. All they do is keep non-players.......like Haack, Kumerow, Matakevich and Taiwan...........employed while giving us extra tv timeouts after touchbacks, fair catches and balls rolling to a stop while the clock runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Nonsense. Gunners and returners especially still have value and the Bills are not the only team to think that. I am sure there is not a lot of guaranteed money in this deal and it will be a cheap deal. If they find a better, cheaper, alternative in the draft they will cut Kumerow before the season. And I will tell you that they are wrong. Especially now that the NFL is looking at the XFL rules and are going to have Is that why Andre Roberts continues to get bounced around the league? Cause coaches think oh we need that guy, and then he gets cut because "Hes too expensive for what he brings" The only special teamers that matter are Kicker, punter, long snapper. If your punter is god awful, your gunners don't matter. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Great, now we can just cut Diggs. Championship! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, CountDorkula said: And I will tell you that they are wrong. Especially now that the NFL is looking at the XFL rules and are going to have Is that why Andre Roberts continues to get bounced around the league? Cause coaches think oh we need that guy, and then he gets cut because "Hes too expensive for what he brings" The only special teamers that matter are Kicker, punter, long snapper. If your punter is god awful, your gunners don't matter. If the NFL gets rid of special teams I'll agree with you. Until then you gunners do matter, returners do matter and you are talking nonsense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TC in St. Louis Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 This is another indicator that Buffalo is a player destination. Kumerow could've gone to Green Bay. He's a hard worker, a special teams strength, and is a good blocker. And he knows his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, MWK said: This BETTER be for the minimum. So sick of paying marginal special teams players big money for little contribution Don’t worry, it’s not your money. The Bills got this one. Do NOT underestimate Special Teams and versatility/depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) This is why Rodgers has no weapons. 4 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Especially now that the NFL is looking at the XFL rules and are going to have wut Edited March 10, 2022 by Mr. WEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This is why Rodgers has no weapons. wut The NFL and XFL teamed up and the NFL is using the XFL as a league to test out rules basically. They are going to collaborate. Majority of major injures happen on special teams plays, they are going to do everything they can to reduce that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: This is another indicator that Buffalo is a player destination. Kumerow could've gone to Green Bay. He's a hard worker, a special teams strength, and is a good blocker. And he knows his job. If Kumerow signed for the league minimum then maybe you are right. But Green Bay is in much worse cap shape than Buffalo so they weren't likely to be be in the market for a 5th or 6th receiver for above league minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, MWK said: Or maybe I don't like wasting what little cap we have on special teams only players who can't do much of anything like Tyler Matakevich Tyler Matakevich? You mean the STs guy who made the game-turning play against the Pats on STs, recovering that surprise onside kick? That guy? Yeah, well, OK, I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think that all but guarantees Taiwan Jones is done. Kumerow got mixed in some as a gunner last year. They have signed Neal and he to contracts. Jones is about to turn 34.... so I think the timing is right. So - there's a roster position up for grabs - will it revert to rb or maybe get allocated somewhere else? TE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Your killing me,😁 “this better be for league minimum “ or what? Are you gonna go on a rant, and subject all of us to your musings…?, nuthin but luv dude, but really…? Beane is in a tight financial position, he needs a hand full of above average players at important positions, he’s not giving JK the keys to the city, Go Bills!!! How is Kumerow an above average player at an important position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: The NFL and XFL teamed up and the NFL is using the XFL as a league to test out rules basically. They are going to collaborate. Rule One: League execs are encouraged to date and fraternize with subordinates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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