Turbo44 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, bearcat said: Old fake news from yesterday- look at the tv station closely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, bearcat said: @ NFLONEPSN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Levi Wallace posted this on Instagram 10 minutes ago… https://www.instagram.com/tv/CbEHU55Jwt6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link first kyrics to that song were "run it back" for what thats worth... could be he knows something, or wishful thinking on his part.... or he just likes the song lol who knows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: Have you seen him play for the Giants? Yea. He’s a TE that basically plays the slot. He’s still a big body that can be utilized in certain 2-TE sets and will likely be more effective in the slot with Allen throwing to him, Knox in line and Diggs/Davis flanking him. Beggars can’t be choosers. We aren’t flush with cash. He’s a guy that we can hope to elevate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: McKenzie isn't actually costing us $4 million this year. Let's what the real numbers look like before jumping to conclusions. Oh I'd guess that the McKenzie cap hit is only $2M or so in 2022 but that there will be dead money if cut after the season...........and they are already going to be borrowing money against the 2023 cap........and I expect that they will likely want to move on from Dirty after this season. At least I'd hope they'd find a couple WR in this draft that they think are keepers. As for Engram...........$9M is just absurd if that rumor is true. I understand that GM's get obsessed with players they wanted to draft and maybe that's the deal with Beane and Engram but he hasn't earned that kind of contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, bearcat said: i cant find this anywhere on their page nor on tom pellissero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, babulator said: Am I missing something? What does Engram bring that Knox does not? I've been critical of Rambo in the past, but didn't he have a good season? I feel like this money better is spent elsewhere. Engram plays primarily out of the slot. He’d be signed to play with Knox, not back him up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, BillsShredder83 said: i cant find this anywhere on their page nor on tom pellissero NFL ON EPSN LOL... Fake News.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Old fake news from yesterday- look at the tv station closely Good OL’ EPSN! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Philo said: Did you watch Knox take a huge step last season or no? Apparently he missed the fact that Knox tied for the lead in TE TDs too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 The Evan Engram rumor sounds more like something Engram's camp would hype up to generate interest from other teams. Bills are completely unpredictable with what they like in TEs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, babulator said: Am I missing something? What does Engram bring that Knox does not? I've been critical of Rambo in the past, but didn't he have a good season? I feel like this money better is spent elsewhere. He brings explosive athleticism and an ability to stretch the field. Why only have one? Bills need more explosiveness on offense and defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Oh I'd guess that the McKenzie cap hit is only $2M or so in 2022 but that there will be dead money if cut after the season...........and they are already going to be borrowing money against the 2023 cap........and I expect that they will likely want to move on from Dirty after this season. At least I'd hope they'd find a couple WR in this draft that they think are keepers. I don't think they cut him after the season. They know what they have with him. I guess by me saying that it should be longer term deal though. But can't keep everyone forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Oh I'd guess that the McKenzie cap hit is only $2M or so in 2022 but that there will be dead money if cut after the season...........and they are already going to be borrowing money against the 2023 cap........and I expect that they will likely want to move on from Dirty after this season. At least I'd hope they'd find a couple WR in this draft that they think are keepers. As for Engram...........$9M is just absurd if that rumor is true. I understand that GM's get obsessed with players they wanted to draft and maybe that's the deal with Beane and Engram but he hasn't earned that kind of contract. I agree 100%. I think dirty’s cap hit will be around $2.5m. I think Engram goes for 5-6m per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Good OL’ EPSN! An Epinesa burner account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 52 minutes ago, njbuff said: Giant fans would be laughing at the Bills for signing Engram. And Giant fans aren't in a position to be laughing at anyone. But they would if the Bills sign Engram. Really? This is actually the guy I want. He’s already tight with Knox. He’s versatile where he can line up as a big WR. He’s fast. We really need another TE, I think Dorsey wants to run 2 TE sets. 6 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, purple haze said: He brings explosive athleticism and an ability to stretch the field. Why only have one? Bills need more explosiveness on offense and defense. 2 TE sets have their place, but it's not an offense I want to transition to with this kind of signing. I'm high on Gabe and I'd like to see us get McKenzie more involved. I think there's probably a better WR/receiving option we could make a play for in FA, by trade or draft. I trust in Beane, but my gut says pass on this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, babulator said: 2 TE sets have their place, but it's not an offense I want to transition to with this kind of signing. I'm high on Gabe and I'd like to see us get McKenzie more involved. I think there's probably a better WR/receiving option we could make a play for in FA, by trade or draft. I trust in Beane, but my gut says pass on this move. 2 extremely athletic TE’s are not your father’s 12 personnel. Crazy mismatches. Especially if the CMC rumor is true 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Paul Costa said: 2 extremely athletic TE’s are not your father’s 12 personnel. Crazy mismatches. Especially if the CMC rumor is true This **** right here. The #2 TE isnt blocking anybody these days. If he is....it isnt some big thumper OLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 12 personnel package would make us more multiple. With 2 pass catching TEs who can block you're truly a threat to run or pass without letting formation tip your hand like it would when we line up in 12 now. Engram's speed is a weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Really? This is actually the guy I want. He’s already tight with Knox. He’s versatile where he can line up as a big WR. He’s fast. We really need another TE, I think Dorsey wants to run 2 TE sets. The Engram rumor made me think of Mitch last year...Engram needs a prove-it to regain some MV, and the Bills need an actual threat at TE2...Win/Win...I'm guessing it would be very cheap for a year...If that's the case what's not to like?...Another position you don't have to Draft in 2022... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Engram is a tight end by name only. He’s really a big slot WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Paul Costa said: 2 extremely athletic TE’s are not your father’s 12 personnel. Crazy mismatches. Especially if the CMC rumor is true I get it, Belichick demonstrated clearly how 2 TE sets in the moderns NFL can work. If McBeane says this is the way, then so be it. We'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: 2 extremely athletic TE’s are not your father’s 12 personnel. Crazy mismatches. Especially if the CMC rumor is true Plus we have Tommy Doyle who can line up as the jumbo TE when needed , it was working well at end of last season 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, babulator said: 2 TE sets have their place, but it's not an offense I want to transition to with this kind of signing. I'm high on Gabe and I'd like to see us get McKenzie more involved. I think there's probably a better WR/receiving option we could make a play for in FA, by trade or draft. I trust in Beane, but my gut says pass on this move. This wouldn’t be Cleveland/Baltimore type 2 TE sets. Think Diggs and Davis out wide, Engram in the slot and Knox lined up off tackle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Plus we have Tommy Doyle who can line up as the jumbo TE when needed , it was working well at end of last season And he had the same amount of TD's as Beasley did. 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 48 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: $4M for a 178 yard receiver McKenzie and $9M for a 400 yard receiver Engram.............yeah Buffalo would be getting bargains because of Josh Allen. That McKenzie number actually bothers me more than 9 million of Engram. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: This wouldn’t be Cleveland/Baltimore type 2 TE sets. Think Diggs and Davis out wide, Engram in the slot and Knox lined up off tackle. I was critical of Daboll @ times and I like the Dorsey promotion, so I'm excited to see the changes he brings. If this is what he envisions I'm on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: This would align with them having interest in Engram... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: This would align with them having interest in Engram... And go against being interested in Wagner or Gronk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: So, if this is true.. Chandler Jones ❌ Fletcher Cox ❌ Von Miller ❌ Rob Gronkowski ❌ Evan Engram ✅ Danielle Hunter ✅ Christian McCaffrey ✅ Saquon Barkley ✅ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Looking at his Twitter, he clearly works with the team somehow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: So, if this is true.. Chandler Jones ❌ Fletcher Cox ❌ Von Miller ❌ Rob Gronkowski ❌ Evan Engram ✅ Danielle Hunter ✅ Christian McCaffrey ✅ Saquon Barkley ✅ You’re assuming a guy like Chandler Jones wants what the team would define as a BIG $$$ Deal, don’t give up hope yet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I may be in the minority but i hope the bills don't sign engram. Knox is due for a contract extension which surely will put him over 10, engram is going to malke I am assuming at least 7 per? Bills are predominately an 11 personnel team and that is Josh allen's bread and butter. I don't want upwards of 20 million tied up to tight ends 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, strive_for_five_guy said: You’re assuming a guy like Chandler Jones wants what the team would define as a BIG $$$ Deal, don’t give up hope yet! Yes, Manny Sanders says sup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I may be in the minority but i hope the bills don't sign engram. Knox is due for a contract extension which surely will put him over 10, engram is going to malke I am assuming at least 7 per? Bills are predominately an 11 personnel team and that is Josh allen's bread and butter. I don't want upwards of 20 million tied up to tight ends I wonder if they will justify paying both in that engram is a hybrid WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I wonder if they will justify paying both in that engram is a hybrid WR That is a fair point to bring up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder if they will justify paying both in that engram is a hybrid WR Yeah i think this makes a ton of sense. They must see the crazy upside of Engram. He could be a Deebo Samuel type of weapon if he is used that way. He is bigger and faster. Having Knox in the lineup allows the Bills the luxury to do a lot of crazy stuff with Engram. Edited March 14, 2022 by MrEpsYtown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Plus we have Tommy Doyle who can line up as the jumbo TE when needed , it was working well at end of last season Agree 💯 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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