dave mcbride Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) Singletary is 8th too! 1.Josh Allen • BUF6.1 2.Lamar Jackson • BAL5.8 3.Jalen Hurts • PHI5.7 4.Tony Pollard • DAL5.6 Jonathan Taylor • IND5.6 6.Nick Chubb • CLE5.5 7.Miles Sanders • PHI5.2 8.Dalvin Cook • MIN4.9 Devin Singletary • BUF4.9 10.James Robinson • JAX4.8 Javonte Williams • DEN4.8 Edited December 13, 2021 by dave mcbride 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 He IS the offense 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Thank God for Josh Allen! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Yea, Devin Singletary has a place in this team. Not a feature back but a nice complimentary back. I don't believe he's the problem with our running game. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Top 3 are all QBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Thank God for Josh Allen! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 The top three play quarterback and one of them is actually a quarterback! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Singletary is avg almost 5 yards per carry in his career and this ####### Daboll just refuses to hand the ball to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Singletary is 8th too! 1.Josh Allen • BUF6.1 2.Lamar Jackson • BAL5.8 3.Jalen Hurts • PHI5.7 4.Tony Pollard • DAL5.6 Jonathan Taylor • IND5.6 6.Nick Chubb • CLE5.5 7.Miles Sanders • PHI5.2 8.Dalvin Cook • MIN4.9 Devin Singletary • BUF4.9 10.James Robinson • JAX4.8 Javonte Williams • DEN4.8 Top 3 are QBs and oddly enough last week Top 2 got hurt.. Maybe run the QB less use the Rb or WR EVEN instead. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: He IS the offense This is probably the best arguement for Allen for MVP. I also thought Manning should have won MVP the year he missed before the drafted Luck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: Top 3 are all QBs Bruce Arians would never let them run according to his press conference 😂 what a clown…imagine telling Lamar Jackson ‘hey man stay in the pocket you might get hurt’ even after he comes back from his injury he wouldn’t be listening to that 2 minutes ago, Mango said: This is probably the best arguement for Allen for MVP. I also thought Manning should have won MVP the year he missed before the drafted Luck. By definition of what the mvp SHOULD be I think there’s no question it’s josh. What a gutsy season from him hopefully he gets a chance to do something special in the playoffs. Will it actually be him though most likely not 6 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Top 3 are QBs and oddly enough last week Top 2 got hurt.. Maybe run the QB less use the Rb or WR EVEN instead. It’s all pretty relative…look at the titans their whole offense runs through a rb and Derrick Henry got hurt. Josh’s qb carries got us right back into a huge game and we were literally an inch away from chasing you guys down for the division lol now it’s a very long shot. Crazy they lost the titans and bucs games by literal inches both those games felt very similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Mango said: This is probably the best arguement for Allen for MVP. I also thought Manning should have won MVP the year he missed before the drafted Luck. Disagree. He just hasn’t won games in crunch time. That’s why they are 7-6. He is still a phenomenal, elite player, but to win an MVP, you have to be a closer. He is 0-4 in closer situations this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, HomeTeam said: Yea, Devin Singletary has a place in this team. Not a feature back but a nice complimentary back. I don't believe he's the problem with our running game. And not as a receiver with the game on the line in a final drive or playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Could you imagine paying Zeke and then having Pollard top 5 in yards per attempt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, Big Turk said: And not as a receiver with the game on the line in a final drive or playoffs Yea, his pass catching does leave a lot to be desired. Hopefully he can improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Singletary is avg almost 5 yards per carry in his career and this ####### Daboll just refuses to hand the ball to him. Singletary needs to be used exactly like he was yesterday. Not to mention he seemed to have a little extra juice on a couple of those second half runs. Looked like the 2019 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Bruce Arians would never let them run according to his press conference 😂 what a clown…imagine telling Lamar Jackson ‘hey man stay in the pocket you might get hurt’ even after he comes back from his injury he wouldn’t be listening to that By definition of what the mvp SHOULD be I think there’s no question it’s josh. What a gutsy season from him hopefully he gets a chance to do something special in the playoffs. Will it actually be him though most likely not It’s all pretty relative…look at the titans their whole offense runs through a rb and Derrick Henry got hurt. Josh’s qb carries got us right back into a huge game and we were literally an inch away from chasing you guys down for the division lol now it’s a very long shot. Crazy they lost the titans and bucs games by literal inches both those games felt very similar Big difference is Titans can survive without He Ty, and have proven such. Ravens and Bills are up a creek without a paddle without their QB. (As any team would be) so again RUN the RB do sweeps with the WR.. do screens.. QB Draws only shorten a QB career and or gets them injured and missing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Big difference is Titans can survive without He Ty, and have proven such. Ravens and Bills are up a creek without a paddle without their QB. (As any team would be) so again RUN the RB do sweeps with the WR.. do screens.. QB Draws only shorten a QB career and or gets them injured and missing time. I guess it depends on the definition of survive…if we’re talking about beating up on bad teams im sure trubisky could come in and win a game. If we are talking about potential playoff success I don’t give the titans any chance without Derrick Henry. At least josh isn’t a sitting duck on designed qb runs like he is on a passing play behind that oline. He kind of gets to control some of the hits I think that’s what the ravens coaching staff says about Lamar as well. This is a bit coulda shoulda woulda but they are literal inches on josh Allen scrambles away from 9-4 sitting in the 1 seed right now so it’s gotta be give and take I guess…sometimes fighting for a couple inches is the difference in a whole season Edited December 14, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Josh Allen is basically John Elway on steroids (I don't mean that literally). What I mean is that Josh is a one man wrecking crew the same way the Elway was early in his career. Let's just hope that Allen doesn't have to wait to his mid 30's, like Elway did, to get his Terrell Davis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I guess it depends on the definition of survive…if we’re talking about beating up on bad teams im sure trubisky could come in and win a game. If we are talking about potential playoff success I don’t give the titans any chance without Derrick Henry. At least josh isn’t a sitting duck on designed qb runs like he is on a passing play behind that oline. He kind of gets to control some of the hits I think that’s what the ravens coaching staff says about Lamar as well. This is a bit coulda shoulda woulda but they are literal inches on josh Allen scrambles away from 9-4 sitting in the 1 seed right now so it’s gotta be give and take I guess…sometimes fighting for a couple inches is the difference in a whole season Dude, I watched the last 3 Bills games and Allen took a LOT of hard hits. Hits he wouldn’t tKe if the Bills had a run game not relying solely on him. Allen has the talent be good even when he does slow, (unlike the other 2QBs on the list) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Clearly, the Bills should sit him the rest of the season so he finishes first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Dude, I watched the last 3 Bills games and Allen took a LOT of hard hits. Hits he wouldn’t tKe if the Bills had a run game not relying solely on him. Allen has the talent be good even when he does slow, (unlike the other 2QBs on the list) Right I said some of the hits 😂 a lot of these times he might be calling his own number too it’s hard to say. But there’s gotta be some sweet spot for the ‘correct’ amount of qb runs to still be efficient on offense especially since they can’t run block for sh*t this year. Without that extra dimension they had absolutely no chance in quite a few games this season. I’m sure it was a focal point last week because that bucs run d is ferocious you don’t see a lot of handoffs to rbs against them no matter who they are playing 10 minutes ago, Beast said: Clearly, the Bills should sit him the rest of the season so he finishes first. Haha right at some point you are giving up on a season where sure we’re not playing well at the moment but the roster is pretty win now..to protect a qbs long term health. There’s gotta be a sweet spot and it’s funny coming from arians with a 40+ year old slow ass qb behind one of the best offensive lines in the nfl ‘oh I wouldn’t do that’ they scooped up Mitch trubisky to give them a chance in a worst case scenario Edited December 14, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I agree, Josh is fantastic. But here's the sad thing. The reason we use him as a runner is because we need the extra blocker. When Josh hands off, we have 9 guys blocking for the back. And those 9 guys cannot get the job done. So we lot Josh run with 10 blockers in front of him. If we had a better OL, Josh wouldn't have to run so much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Bruce Arians would never let them run according to his press conference 😂 what a clown…imagine telling Lamar Jackson ‘hey man stay in the pocket you might get hurt’ even after he comes back from his injury he wouldn’t be listening to that By definition of what the mvp SHOULD be I think there’s no question it’s josh. What a gutsy season from him hopefully he gets a chance to do something special in the playoffs. Will it actually be him though most likely not It’s all pretty relative…look at the titans their whole offense runs through a rb and Derrick Henry got hurt. Josh’s qb carries got us right back into a huge game and we were literally an inch away from chasing you guys down for the division lol now it’s a very long shot. Crazy they lost the titans and bucs games by literal inches both those games felt very similar Arians has no answers for Allen....so he tried to defend himself by saying he would never run...I agree..he’s a Ronald McDonald... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Arians has no answers for Allen....so he tried to defend himself by saying he would never run...I agree..he’s a Ronald McDonald... Bucs gm deserves all the credit for building a roster talented enough to lure Brady…I don’t think arians is an impressive coach in any way and that comment was very foot in mouth lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Bruce Arians would never let them run according to his press conference 😂 what a clown…imagine telling Lamar Jackson ‘hey man stay in the pocket you might get hurt’ even after he comes back from his injury he wouldn’t be listening to that By definition of what the mvp SHOULD be I think there’s no question it’s josh. What a gutsy season from him hopefully he gets a chance to do something special in the playoffs. Will it actually be him though most likely not It’s all pretty relative…look at the titans their whole offense runs through a rb and Derrick Henry got hurt. Josh’s qb carries got us right back into a huge game and we were literally an inch away from chasing you guys down for the division lol now it’s a very long shot. Crazy they lost the titans and bucs games by literal inches both those games felt very similar And this buffoon has a Super Bowl ring. How is that possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Josh Allen is basically John Elway on steroids (I don't mean that literally). What I mean is that Josh is a one man wrecking crew the same way the Elway was early in his career. Let's just hope that Allen doesn't have to wait to his mid 30's, like Elway did, to get his Terrell Davis. So we're the Broncos of the 80's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) It's clear josh likes to run and a big reason I'm guessing is it's better than getting whacked behind the OL all the while gaining big yards Edited December 14, 2021 by motorj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: So we're the Broncos of the 80's? I hope not. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: So we're the Broncos of the 80's? Find Josh his Terrel Davis and we'll probably win a couple SB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Singletary is avg almost 5 yards per carry in his career and this ####### Daboll just refuses to hand the ball to him. I find this bizarre, too. The only explanation I can think of is that they don't trust him because of ball security issues. But he's generally an effective back we should be able to rely on for 10-15 carries every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Take that Jonathan Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Starting next year, I'd like to see Josh play defense as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: Starting next year, I'd like to see Josh play defense as well. You know? I bet he could rush the passer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: So we're the Broncos of the 80's? Back to Back Super Bowl Champs 2033-2034 here we come. Edited December 14, 2021 by Sammy Watkins' Rib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Arians has no answers for Allen....so he tried to defend himself by saying he would never run...I agree..he’s a Ronald McDonald... That quote makes me really hope for a Bills/Bucs Super Bowl where Allen runs all over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Find Josh his Terrel Davis and we'll probably win a couple SB's. But does he need his Mike Shanahan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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