Trubisky to covid 19 list; Davis Webb elevated from PS

[JGMcD2]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Seriously though, I think the "close contact" thing would have rolled by now, as long as Josh doesn't actually test positive himself at 5 am you should be good

What time do they test? 😳

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Big C said:

Our coaches are smart. They had to have learned from the Broncos debacle last year. I imagine they keep Josh and Mitch away from each other enough to not make them close contacts per the NFL code. Could be wrong, as I’m not 100% sure what all the rules are. But I have to imagine we will have Josh this week. 

 

[Big C]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

 

Ha. Touché! 
 

I believe they learn from their mistakes though! Probably the mistakes of other teams too.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Big C

[BuffBillsForLife]

14 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

 

I mean, he is a free agent.  Git 'er dun Beane!

[Einstein]

6 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

feel pretty confident (based on his past comments) Josh isn't vaxxed.   

 

Webb could be starting vs. the Jets.   

 

I think Allen is vaccinated.

 

I don’t see him in a mask in any photos of him in the facility, which is a requirement of the unvaccinated.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

44 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

What time do they test? 😳

 

Yolo said 5 am

 

Gonna be especially brutal with 5 am feeling like 4 am. 😫🥱

 

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I totally get that. I try to make the home opener every year, then pick at least one road game. Having been to Nashville 4 years in a row, an easy 4 hour drive from Atlanta and a city we like, that was an easy choice. But there is A LOT to be said for hitting different NFL cities and venues. 

 

The wife spends a lot of time in NYC and I’d like to build in a Jets (or Giants) game some time just for the experience. A decent thread idea would be what cities would you like to hit, with poll, but I am FAR too lazy for that! I’d love to see a game in Denver with a nice downtown experience. I’ve been there on a game day but didn’t attend. KC is also appealing as they tailgate and the crowd feels a little like us. I’d better stop here so as not to derail things, but I get wanting different experiences. 

 

Have fun in the Big Apple and hope you get to see Josh lead us to a victory! 

 

 

I've been to Seattle(Kingdome and the current stadium), Oakland, KC, Pittsburgh(Three Rivers), Cincinnati, Green Bay, Chicago, Minn(metrodome), Cleveland(Municipal stadium?), Detroit(Silverdome), Jax, Carolina, LA Rams(Collisuem), LA Chargers (in the soccer stadium), Denver(new stadium), Arizona (SunDevil stadium and the current retractable dome), New Orleans, and Indianapolis (Hoosier Dome).  I have been to several of these multiple times.

All those AFC East games and this will be my first road trip. I never saw Brady play in New England - but I have been to Boston many times for Celtics/Red Sox.  I have no desire to go to Miami.  Must admit Green Bay was a bit of a let down but it may have been how badly the Bills played that day.  

 

My top 3 to still see at this point would be - Dallas, LA, and maybe Baltimore.  If I get the chance going back to Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh would be good too.  

 

 

[Augie]

7 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I've been to Seattle(Kingdome and the current stadium), Oakland, KC, Pittsburgh(Three Rivers), Cincinnati, Green Bay, Chicago, Minn(metrodome), Cleveland(Municipal stadium?), Detroit(Silverdome), Jax, Carolina, LA Rams(Collisuem), LA Chargers (in the soccer stadium), Denver(new stadium), Arizona (SunDevil stadium and the current retractable dome), New Orleans, and Indianapolis (Hoosier Dome).  I have been to several of these multiple times.

All those AFC East games and this will be my first road trip. I never saw Brady play in New England - but I have been to Boston many times for Celtics/Red Sox.  I have no desire to go to Miami.  Must admit Green Bay was a bit of a let down but it may have been how badly the Bills played that day.  

 

My top 3 to still see at this point would be - Dallas, LA, and maybe Baltimore.  If I get the chance going back to Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh would be good too.  

 

 

 

If that was GB like 4-5 years ago, that was disappointing. Just a bad day, I thought. I did enjoy seeing a stadium in the middle of a residential neighborhood. It was unique and the kind of thing I enjoy seeing. I’ve been to quite a few of those sites, but not quite as many as you have seen. 

 

I have no great desire to visit Jerry World. I’d much rather see Vegas or LA for new mega-stadiums. I’m just a bit tired of the Jerry show and all Cowboys, all the time. 

 

Son and DIL will be in FL a couple weeks before Christmas to be with her family (Sarasota, where we used to live). Wanted game tix for Bills/Bucs 12/12, but they were pricey for people who just bought their first house. Gave up, but made a phone call to a friend working at a major corporation. Snagged a couple seats on the 50 behind the Bills bench about 20 rows up. Stubhub had those seats north of $900 each. Merry Christmas! 

 

Sorry for the tangent. I suspect Mitchell is still on the Covid list, and I remain concerned about whether there is another shoe to drop. Please let this be the end of it!!! 

[Sherlock Holmes]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

If that was GB like 4-5 years ago, that was disappointing. Just a bad day, I thought. I did enjoy seeing a stadium in the middle of a residential neighborhood. It was unique and the kind of thing I enjoy seeing. I’ve been to quite a few of those sites, but not quite as many as you have seen. 

 

I have no great desire to visit Jerry World. I’d much rather see Vegas or LA for new mega-stadiums. I’m just a bit tired of the Jerry show and all Cowboys, all the time. 

 

Son and DIL will be in FL a couple weeks before Christmas to be with her family (Sarasota, where we used to live). Wanted game tix for Bills/Bucs 12/12, but they were pricey for people who just bought their first house. Gave up, but made a phone call to a friend working at a major corporation. Snagged a couple seats on the 50 behind the Bills bench about 20 rows up. Stubhub had those seats north of $900 each. Merry Christmas! 

 

Sorry for the tangent. I suspect Mitchell is still on the Covid list, and I remain concerned about whether there is another shoe to drop. Please let this be the end of it!!! 

We'll take a pair for our Christmas gift Augie... we got a gift from mead we need to deliver to Brady

[Augie]

1 minute ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

We'll take a pair for our Christmas gift Augie... we got a gift from mead we need to deliver to Brady

Not being the CEO of a major corporation, I do not have the tix to give. Nor do I want my son or DIL touching any Mead gift you might have in mind for Brady. No telling where that might have been!!! 

[Einstein]

11 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

If that was GB like 4-5 years ago, that was disappointing. Just a bad day, I thought. I did enjoy seeing a stadium in the middle of a residential neighborhood. It was unique and the kind of thing I enjoy seeing. I’ve been to quite a few of those sites, but not quite as many as you have seen. 

 

I have no great desire to visit Jerry World. I’d much rather see Vegas or LA for new mega-stadiums. I’m just a bit tired of the Jerry show and all Cowboys, all the time. 

 

 

You just described Rich Stadium lol.

 

PS, if I had a dollar for every time you posted “I used to live in X” …

[Augie]

58 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

You just described Rich Stadium lol.

 

PS, if I had a dollar for every time you posted “I used to live in X” …

 

Have you ever attended a game at Lambeau Field? It is NOTHING like the Bills stadium in Orchard Park. NOTHING! As you drive toward the stadium there are modest residential houses with signs in the yard front saying “Park & Pee $20”. It is a dense and mature residential area. The closer you get, the higher the price goes up. “Park & Pee $35”.  They either let you into their house on their 10,00 SF lot, or they have porta potties in the yard. You park on their front lawn, feet from their house, and tailgate as long as you want. It’s not rural, it is residential. 

 

There are no mega-lots that take forever to get out of.  It’s more like the Rock Pile than OP. You may be far too young to know of that. 

 

Green Bay is a unique experience, and if you had ever been there you’d probably know enough not to argue the point. People who follow football understand this. 

 

I’m not sure what your point is about my having lived in different places. Yep, I have moved around a bit for various reasons. I think it’s a good thing to see different ways of life and experience different traditions. It helps a person to not be so small minded. 

 

You sound like a one trick pony who hasn’t seen enough to evaluate various options. 

 

 

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Edited November 7, 2021 by Augie

[goober]

59 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Yolo said 5 am

 

Gonna be especially brutal with 5 am feeling like 4 am. 😫🥱

 

 

They won’t wake him up will they?   Hoping it could be handled like a probe Mulder and Scully would have to track down if anyone needed details.  

[Dan Darragh]

Sign Peterman!

[Richard Noggin]

6 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

This.  Just because he doesn't disclose or says that it's a personal thing doesn't mean he isn't. 

I tend to hope, with his continued privacy on the matter, that he's intentionally providing cover for his guys who have chosen not to get vaccinated (I assume it's more than just Beasley). I know he made early comments that strongly suggested an anti-vax inclination, but I agree with many who guess Josh Allen would place availability above his own potential personal reluctance. 

 

Often I think of Diggs's tweet in response to Beasley early on: something to the effect of "Availability. Accountability." That is the kind of football-based decision-making I hope won over Allen. Being vaccinated makes it more likely a player will be available more often.

 

But there's so much we don't know and won't know, which makes this all quite thrilling.

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

Have you ever attended a game at Lambeau Field? It is NOTHING like the Bills stadium in Orchard Park. NOTHING! As you drive toward the stadium there are modest residential houses with signs in the yard front saying “Park & Pee $20”. It is a dense and mature residential area. The closer you get, the higher the price goes up. “Park & Pee $35”.  They either let you into their house on their 10,00 SF lot, or they have porta potties in the yard. You park on their front lawn, feet from their house, and tailgate as long as you want. It’s not rural, it is residential. 

 

There are no mega-lots that take forever to get out of.  It’s more like the Rock Pile than OP. You may be far too young to know of that. 

 

Green Bay is a unique experience, and if you had ever been there you’d probably know enough not to argue the point. People who follow football understand this. 

 

I’m not sure what your point is about my having lived in different places. Yep, I have moved around a bit for various reasons. I think it’s a good thing to see different ways of life and experience different traditions. It helps a person to not be so small minded. 

 

You sound like a one trick pony who hasn’t seen enough to evaluate various options. 

 

 

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I can’t figure out if you’re describing Rich Stadium or Lambeau Field.

 

People have signs that say “park and pee”? And the closer you get to the stadium, the prices go up?

 

You dont say!?

 

Certainly don’t see that on Big Tree & Abbott every Sunday. (I’m just kidding, that’s ALL you see). 

 

Maybe you haven’t been to the stadium since it was built in a cornfield in the 70’s.

 

“You sound like a one trick pony who hasn’t seen enough to evaluate various options.”

 

I can just about guarantee that i’ve been to more stadiums than you have. I went on a road trip where I went to nearly every stadium in the NFL recently.

[transplantbillsfan]

This is a scary night to go to sleep... it's like anti-Christmas.

 

I wake up with either a pleasant or unpleasant surprise.

 

Unpleasant is obviously that Josh is out and confirmation that he's unvaxxed becomes pretty solid. 

 

Pleasant would be Josh being able to play. Pleasant for the obvious reason that I love watching Josh Allen play football. But also pleasant because it would pretty solidly confirm what I suspected since the Summer: despite his initial hesitancy, Josh did the best thing for the team and got vaccinated.

 

And to be clear, I still think we could and probably should win even if Webb starts.

[UKBillFan]

5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Yolo said 5 am

 

Gonna be especially brutal with 5 am feeling like 4 am. 😫🥱

 

 

The clocks are going back - shouldn’t 5am feel like 6am?

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

The clocks are going back - shouldn’t 5am feel like 6am?

Forget it, he's rolling.

[BobbyC81]

13 hours ago, tuckan said:

Exactly.  There was no rush to sign an unvaccinated player.  Since the Pegulas, Beane and Coach are vaccinated, I don’t think they make this kind of investment in an unvaccinated player.  I damn well would not risk my money on that.  Would any of you?

Remember that last season’s MVP, Rodgers has tested positive and is missing Sunday’s game.  

[BigDingus]

13 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I would be surprised if Allen isn't vaccinated regardless of his personal feelings about it. He is the type that will do anything to help his team win. Even if he had reservations about the vaccine he knows getting it gives his team the best chance to win.

 

That's what I'm hoping. 

 

People are too complacent thinking everyone that gets it just recovers & feels fine again, but it can take a LOT out of you (or worse). I feel like Josh knows this, and wouldn't want to risk being out of the lineup for even one game, let alone weeks or more. Dawkins still isn't back to his old self, and it could've been worse.

 

Just hope everyone's ok, and that he & Trubisky don't miss any pivotal games.

[TAinLack.]

15 hours ago, 716er said:

Uh oh 

 

Hope Josh wasn’t around him 

or Cole also!!

[TAinLack.]

8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Yolo said 5 am

 

Gonna be especially brutal with 5 am feeling like 4 am. 😫🥱

 

 

how soon will the public know?

[UKBillFan]

7 minutes ago, TAinLA said:

how soon will the public know?

Not sure about in the States but, in the U.K., it takes a few hours for the results of a PCR to come back - probably why he has to be tested a 5am.

[Its Allen the hips]

9 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I think Allen is vaccinated.

 

I don’t see him in a mask in any photos of him in the facility, which is a requirement of the unvaccinated.

This and the fact there are the protocols for masking during press conferences. In addition there’s some rules on commercial advertising for the unvaccinated. Allen had that Buffalo Wild Wings commercial.
 

In an article today Ian Rapoport mentioned the commercial advertising in relation to Rodgers

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-aaron-rodgers-could-face-fines-but-no-suspension-if-covid-violations-are?campaign=Twitter_atn

Quote

Another question the league will be asking: Did Rodgers participate in any commercial or promotional shoots? If so, there are different rules for unvaccinated players. Did he follow those?

 

I think that Allen wants to keep private about his status. Which may be smart as not to take a stance in a locker room where not everyone has gotten the vaccine.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Its Allen the hips

[CNYfan]

2 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

That's what I'm hoping. 

 

People are too complacent thinking everyone that gets it just recovers & feels fine again, but it can take a LOT out of you (or worse). I feel like Josh knows this, and wouldn't want to risk being out of the lineup for even one game, let alone weeks or more. Dawkins still isn't back to his old self, and it could've been worse.

 

Just hope everyone's ok, and that he & Trubisky don't miss any pivotal games.

I don't know everything, but joining the team plane to travel is for vaccinated players.  

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

Josh said on the manningcast that he was the one who threw the Halloween party. Not sure if it was at his house (I gathered it was actually at The Grange) but either way… he’s not publically saying that (or posting the pictures) unless he’s vaccinated 

 

Quote

Unvaccinated players must wear masks at all times in the facility. They cannot gather in groups larger than three players and on the road "are prohibited from congregating, visiting or mingling with individuals outside of the traveling party once they have arrived in the game city."

Unvaccinated individuals are subject to fines if they break COVID protocols. This can include anything from failing to wear a mask in the facility or going to an indoor concert or house party with more than 15 people.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-covid-vaccine-rules-explained/1efarozoadvh11vig3gtdctcdz

All of the players in the photos then are vaccinated or violating protocol. I gather it’s the first thing, they aren’t that dumb. Didn’t see Beasely fwiw 

[JMF2006]

Could we get to see Davis Webbs package in the 4th quarter?  

[YoloinOhio]

So other game day positives are being reported right now 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

14 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

Could we get to see Davis Webbs package in the 4th quarter?  

 

I know there was an entire thread about it the other day on Mitch, but do wonder if anyone made any prop bets on Mitch in the 4th Quarter.

 

I'm no Vegas expert, but would those bets now be canceled out or do the people just lose?

 

[JMF2006]

3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

I know there was an entire thread about it the other day on Mitch, but do wonder if anyone made any prop bets on Mitch in the 4th Quarter.

 

I'm no Vegas expert, but would those bets now be canceled out or do the people just lose?

 

 

My guess would be a credit or refund

[YoloinOhio]

2 hours ago, TAinLA said:

how soon will the public know?

Drew Lock was just reported out around 8:45 ET

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Drew Lock was just reported out around 8:45 ET

 

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[YoloinOhio]

 

[BillsFan4]

Phew... That’s a relief!

[dakrider]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Drew Lock was just reported out around 8:45 ET

So was Trubisky vaccinated?  Was Lock ? 

[Mr. WEO]

18 hours ago, tuckan said:

Josh is vaxxed.  They are not giving anyone 150 million guaranteed and not have his vaccination status clear.  Otherwise the Pegulas are fools.  They did not become billionaires by being foolish…..

 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

11 minutes ago, dakrider said:

So was Trubisky vaccinated?  Was Lock ? 

 

We'll find out in a few days if I understand correctly. 

 

If unvaxed, he's out five days for close contact, 10 days if tests positive

 

If vaxed he's only monitored for close contact.  With a positive test, he's out until 2 tests a day apart come back negative provided he remains symptom free.

 

So if back by mid week unless they develop symptoms, likely means he's vaxxed.

 

My thinking too is since two QB's are out, likely Josh would have been in close contact with them too and would be ruled out for five days if unvaxed.

[The Red King]

Some people don't want to get dragged into the argument.  Allen might have gotten the vax and doesn't want to reveal his status because he doesn't want to deal with either side lashing out at him.  As noted on the Rodgers thread, Allen dealt with around two days of Twitter trending and then it all blew over.

 

I'm just glad he'll be out there today.  The AFC, top seed and the first round bye is ripe for the taking.  To do that, we cannot lose to the Jags today.

[RiotAct]

2 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

Could we get to see Davis Webbs package in the 4th quarter?  

Hope so!