Derrick Henry potential season ending injury

[Starr Almighty]

53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Tennessee will still win that division because, well, who else is there? I think their shot at the #1 seed is pretty much gone though and they are far less of a threat in the post-season without Henry.

I think you need to look at their schedule.

 

 

@LAR

vsNO

vsHOU

@NE

vsJAX

@PIT

vsSF

vsMIA

@HOU

 

Seems very easy to me. 

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, Starr Almighty said:

I think you need to look at their schedule.

 

 

@LAR

vsNO

vsHOU

@NE

vsJAX

@PIT

vsSF

vsMIA

@HOU

 

Seems very easy to me. 

I see 4 losses on the board without Henry in the lineup.

[Starr Almighty]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

I see 4 losses on the board without Henry in the lineup.

Do you? Where?

[CircleTheWagons99]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

Hate to see anyone injured, but when you give a RB that many touches, he’s going to get dinged up. I have feeling the Titans will still be very tough without Henry.

No one to suck in the LB and leave the middle of the field wide open........

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I think you need to look at their schedule.

My Assessment with No Henry

3 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

 

@LAR - Loss

vsNO - Win (mainly because Simien)

vsHOU - Win

@NE - Loss

vsJAX - Win

@PIT - Loss

vsSF - Loss

vsMIA - Win

@HOU - Win

 

Seems very easy to me. 

 

Yep I see 4 more losses, and a possible 5th in NO.  

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

1 hour ago, wjag said:

Well now.  That sure takes the shine off of the Titans win yesterday.  The AFC is so hard to predict right now.  Colossal loss for Titans.  Can anyone even name the RB2 there without looking it up?

Darrnyton Evans (recent third round draft pick) is their preferred back up to Henry, but he's already on IR so Jeremy McNichols has been their #2 guy. He's a shifty, change of pace back who's a good weapon in the passing game, but he's not an every down guy. They almost certainly have to trade for someone. 

 

Breida for their first rounder??? 😄

[Nineforty]

This news pleases me as a bills fan.

 

That is the only prism I choose to view this through. 

[John from Riverside]

5 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Do you? Where?

As soon as you put the emphasis on Tannehill crumbles

Edited November 1, 2021 by John from Riverside

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I think you need to look at their schedule.

 

 

@LAR

vsNO

vsHOU

@NE

vsJAX

@PIT

vsSF

vsMIA

@HOU

 

Seems very easy to me. 

 

It is easy. But a couple more losses knocks them out of the #1 seed. 

[Nineforty]

23 minutes ago, Olliemets said:

Obviously I'm torn about this. The guy is a force. A great great player. The League is worse for having a superstar out. But its better for the Bills if he's out at least for a little while. I don't want Henry to lose the season. Just a few weeks, enough to pin a few more Ls on the Titans. The playoff seeding is going to be huge and right now Tennessee is ahead of us. I want that week off and home field.

 

While Henry beats the stuffing out of defenders and exhausts defenses, think about the pounding he and most running backs take. 

 

Who gives a flying F about this?? Seen it a couple of times now.

 

Are you an official protector of the shield? 

 

Just go all in and embrace it maybe mildly helping our teams path to a championship. The millionaire with a serious foot injury will be alright. The NFL will survive this.

 

[eee1776]

They have aRB on there practice squad that I was impress with during some preseason game. His Name is M. Sargent we will see if he gets activated.

[muppy]

2 hours ago, Jumpsuit Jim said:

This really sucks. Henry is a true bruiser of a running back - big, strong, crazy fast. 
 

If this injury does take him out for the rest of the season, it becomes one more case study on why the NFL is devaluing the running game. One person (other than QB) going out should not derail an entire team. 

when Ive heard him interviewed I was also very impressed with how well spoken and down to earth he seemed as a person away from football. It sucks to see one of the best go down to injury in any case. He'll be back.

[RunTheBall]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

As great as he is, Henry is still just a running back and this is 2021.  This is not nearly as big a setback for the Titans as it would be for a team losing its franchise QB. I don’t believe the Titans will suffer nearly as much as some predict.

Then you don't really understand their offensive strategy. It starts and ends with Henry, not Tannehill. Everything they do on O is predicated with the threat of Henry (not just any RB) and it dictates defensive strategies and groupings that they can game plan to exploit. That's completely gone now and they can try and replicate it with another RB but it won't be half as effective because Henry demands that much attention. Time will tell. 

[Jauronimo]

12 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Do you? Where?

LAR

NO

NE

Pitt

 

If Henry is done for the year, I think Tannehill will be hard pressed to move the ball against these teams.

[Starr Almighty]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

LAR

NO

NE

Pitt

 

If Henry is done for the year, I think Tannehill will be hard pressed to move the ball against these teams.

The Saints have a deli worker as a QB. Does this not concern you?

[Jauronimo]

Just now, Starr Almighty said:

The Saints have a deli worker as a QB. Does this not concern you?

I will manage to sleep at night.

[Blank Stare]

I hate it for Henry and the game. These guys work too hard, and, opposing player or not, it sucks to see anyone cut down by injury. 
 

With that said, you’re up Mr. Tannehill. I’m of the unpopular opinion that he’s still largely the same guy we saw in Miami. He has improved some with better coaching (Gase is terrible), but I’ve never been all that impressed by him. I’m interested to see how he is without being able to hide behind Henry. 

[prissythecat]

I think Tannehill is going to “blow up” because he is sick of people saying that he sucks without Henry in the lineup .  Look for the Titans to make a serious run in their remaining games .

[MAJBobby]

 

 

Edited November 1, 2021 by MAJBobby

[Billever76]

Hate to see a player like henry go down but i dont feel bad for vrabel and that cocky titan team.....now the league gets to see the real tannehill...Titans are done

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is easy. But a couple more losses knocks them out of the #1 seed. 

Does it? Bills have likely dogfights vs. IND, @NO, vs. NE, @TB, @NE.

[Billever76]

2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Wow I hate to see star players get hurts. It diminishes the game.

It will be really interesting to see if they can pivot to a pass first offense with AJ Brown and Julio Jones

Tannehill is only good bc of the playaction..henry makes Tannehill...now Tannehill has to play josh allen ball amd he is far from josh allen

Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Does it? Bills have likely dogfights vs. IND, @NO, vs. NE, @TB, @NE.

 New orleans just lost Winston for the season....patriots with a rookie mac jones will not beat out defense....indy has wentz enough said..........TB is the hardest game left

[Malazan]

2 hours ago, RunTheBall said:

Titans are done if this is true. Near equivalent to us losing Allen as their entire O runs through Henry. No need to stack the box, double Jones and Tannehill will do Tannehill things. 

 

I love Allen, but it's far worse than losing Allen. Henry is that entire team. He keeps the defense off the field, he pulls up the coverage, ge makes EVERYTHING work. Hell, I'm pretty sure their kickers will start sucking with him out. 

[Dukestreetking]

2 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

yes you are correct Eball - I dealt with this injury alot earlier in my career as an orthopedic surgical sales rep .....

 

https://www.orthobullets.com/foot-and-ankle/7031/5th-metatarsal-base-fracture

Thx for this. Very interesting.

Some here seem to believe this type of break is dynamic.

 

However, this presentation--when you put it in plain English--indicates a certain percent are indeed overuse injuries (my word, not in the document).

 

Request to @BuffaninSarasota: this is a great resource. With any high profile injuries in future, please post similar presentation. Thanks again.

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

Not me. I’d rather beat their best if we wind up having to go through Tennessee. If they are better so be it. How good could an opponent feel beating the Bills if Allen had to sit out?

They wouldn't care, do you think the Eagles cares when Malcolm Butler was benched for the Super Bowl? Did they elect to run the ball instead?

[mannc]

15 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

Then you don't really understand their offensive strategy. It starts and ends with Henry, not Tannehill. Everything they do on O is predicated with the threat of Henry (not just any RB) and it dictates defensive strategies and groupings that they can game plan to exploit. That's completely gone now and they can try and replicate it with another RB but it won't be half as effective because Henry demands that much attention. Time will tell. 

I understand that that's their strategy; my point is that it's not the only strategy that can work.  They will obviously have to do things a bit differently now, but IMO, they can still be a very good team without DH and people that are counting them out now are wrong.  The nice thing about this debate is that we'll most likely have a verifiable answer in a month or two.  

2 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

I love Allen, but it's far worse than losing Allen. Henry is that entire team. He keeps the defense off the field, he pulls up the coverage, ge makes EVERYTHING work. Hell, I'm pretty sure their kickers will start sucking with him out. 

I mean, this is just straight up laughable.  An absolutely absurd take.

[Starr Almighty]

18 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I will manage to sleep at night.

I meant for the Saints to win not for you personally 🤣🤣🤣

[RunTheBall]

4 minutes ago, mannc said:

I understand that that's their strategy; my point is that it's not the only strategy that can work.  They will obviously have to do things a bit differently now, but IMO, they can still be a very good team without DH and people that are counting them out now are wrong.  The nice thing about this debate is that we'll most likely have a verifiable answer in a month or two.  

I hear what you are saying. I just have no faith in Tannehill. He's going to have to shoulder the load and it will be interesting to see if he can. I think he's going to crumble. The only positive for him is their weak schedule. 

[TheBrownBear]

Sad.  His career as "King Henry" is over for all intents and purposes.  Foot injuries seem to linger and reoccur, he's 27, and he's already got a ton of mileage on him.  He may come back, but he will never be as good as he is now and he will continue to get injured.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

Not me. I’d rather beat their best if we wind up having to go through Tennessee. If they are better so be it. How good could an opponent feel beating the Bills if Allen had to sit out?

Bills WRs were very banged up vs KC last year… I didn’t see any sympathy coverage 

[Doc Brown]

From a Bills season perspective it makes the divisional race harder but increases our chances for the #1 seed.  Those two Pats games are going to be huge.

[Jauronimo]

3 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I meant for the Saints to win not for you personally 🤣🤣🤣

Winston wasn't playing very well.  Siemian came in and did just fine.  They will run the ball even more and try to  win ugly.

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

From a Bills season perspective it makes the divisional race harder but increases our chances for the #1 seed.  Those two Pats games are going to be huge.

Let's beat the Jaguars first, one game at a time.

[Coach Tuesday]

Just want to weigh in to say that I, too, disagree with @mannc’s take.

[starrymessenger]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

They wouldn't care, do you think the Eagles cares when Malcolm Butler was benched for the Super Bowl? Did they elect to run the ball instead?

I perhaps chose my words poorly. Of course they would not care and neither should we. What I do intend however is that given a choice I’d rather see him in the lineup than not. Why? Because to be the best you need to beat the best imo. Its a purely selfish instinct. Nothing generous about that sentiment. I want to play him to beat him. If/when we play them sans Henry and beat then I’ll feel pretty good. If we beat them with Henry I’ll feel even better and if I need to take on more risk to get there (which would surely be the case) l’m game for that. I mean, should we feel even that much better if Julio, Brown and Tanny all go down? Why not go play a JV team.

[RiotAct]

Heroic return to action  against the Bills in the AFC Championship Game; I’m calling it now.

[WideNine]

No Henry then Tanny is toast.

 

Teams will play light boxes and shut down their receivers.

 

 

 

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, starrymessenger said:

I perhaps chose my words poorly. Of course they would not care and neither should we. What I do intend however is that given a choice I’d rather see him in the lineup than not. Why? Because to be the best you need to beat the best imo. Its a purely selfish instinct. Nothing generous about that sentiment. I want to play him to beat him. If/when we play them sans Henry and beat then I’ll feel pretty good. If we beat them with Henry I’ll feel even better and if I need to take on more risk to get there (which would surely be the case) l’m game for that. I mean, should we feel even that much better if Julio, Brown and Tanny all go down? Why not go play a JV team.

After watching the Patriots roll over horrible teams for years, I've learned to appreciate a win is a win regardless of what's put in front of you.

[Malazan]

14 minutes ago, mannc said:

I understand that that's their strategy; my point is that it's not the only strategy that can work.  They will obviously have to do things a bit differently now, but IMO, they can still be a very good team without DH and people that are counting them out now are wrong.  The nice thing about this debate is that we'll most likely have a verifiable answer in a month or two.  

I mean, this is just straight up laughable.  An absolutely absurd take.

 

We will indeed have a verifiable answer soon. So feel free to scoff all you want. 

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Just want to weigh in to say that I, too, disagree with @mannc’s take.

You and everyone else😃