1ManRaid Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 https://www.nfl.com/news/jets-dl-john-franklin-meyers-agree-to-4-year-55m-extension 4 year extension with $30.2m guaranteed. Jets continue their storied tradition of falling in love hard and fast with D-linemen giving John Franklin-Meyers a big payday for notching 3 sacks in 4 games. Hopefully he turns out to be a flash in the pan and hampers their salary cap for the next few years. Probably gets traded next offseason after the honeymoon wears off and the gravity of playing for New Jersey sinks in. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Ah, not a lot of starts but almost a thousand snaps. I only remembered the name and nothing else, but he's played a bit. Agreed, hope he doesn't do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Ah, not a lot of starts but almost a thousand snaps. I only remembered the name and nothing else, but he's played a bit. Agreed, hope he doesn't do well. Ya I guess not everyone can be a day 1 starter, but that kind of contract would normally be reserved for after sustained success. He had 5 career sacks over 2 seasons (plus a season on IR). Jumping to a $55m extension after a good 4 game start to a season reeks of desperation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) It is actually in essence a 2 year $15m deal. They can get out after 2022 for $1.2m dead cap. It is exactly the kind of deal you do for a guy who has flashed major potential but you are not totally sold on. Good contract. Man if the Jets have hit with Myers who they picked up off the waiver wire and Huff who was an UDFA that is a hell of a boost for them. Think what both of their success in these first 4 weeks also shows is Robert Salah is a really good defensive coach and he doesn't need the Nick Bosas and the Dee Fords of the world to generate pressure off the edge. Edited October 8, 2021 by GunnerBill 5 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Rent is expensive in metro NYC. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Sounds like serial killers name 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Burning money, its what they do - no joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I’ve got no problem with this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’ve got no problem with this As a Bills fan I agree with you. Though is 3 sacks in 4 games this season gives me some pause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 He's a good player who's been ascending. This is a good contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, TAinLA said: Burning money, its what they do - no joke. I wish they would give me some before they just torch it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Guy sounds like an ex president. like one you find on money which they like to burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/19/nfl-los-angeles-rams-john-franklin-myers-high-school-team-winless/ John Franklin-Myers on going 0-40 in high school: 'It was really frustrating' he should fit right in with the Jets the next 6 years Edited October 8, 2021 by Pete 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 he actually sounds like an ascending player. It's funny the Jets have spent so many high draft picks and big coin towards their DL- and they pay a 4th round pick waived by Rams https://thejetpress.com/posts/ny-jets-5-highest-graded-pff-3-weeks/5 PFF has him ranked 2 on Jets 2. John Franklin-Myers, DE, NY Jets John Franklin-Myers has been one of the pleasant surprises from the first three weeks of the season. The former Los Angeles Rams fourth-round pick broke out last season and developed into a quality contributor in the Jets' defensive-line rotation. While his stat line wasn't anything special, the analytics indicated that bigger things likely awaited him in the future. And this time, the analytics didn't lie. Franklin-Myers has been one of the Jets' best overall players through three weeks with a PFF grade of 73.4 that ranks 31st at his position. And if not for a lackluster Week 3, that grade would be even higher. His 76.2 run-defense grade is actually good for 11th in the NFL and he's been productive as a pass rusher, despite an underwhelming 62.3 pass-rush grade. Once again, though, context is needed for that. Franklin-Myers' pass-rush grade was much higher before this past week when he posted a lowly 53.8 pass-rush grade. But it's important to note that he was playing through a calf injury that kept him sidelined for most of the week. He clearly wasn't 100 percent and it showed with his performance. But overall, Franklin-Myers has been phenomenal. The 25-year-old has two sacks, a forced fumble, eight total pressures, five hurries, and four stops in just three games. Simply put, he's been one of the best players on the roster. Once his calf injury is fully healed, expect Franklin-Myers to return to his superb pass-rushing ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It is actually in essence a 2 year $15m deal. They can get out after 2022 for $1.2m dead cap. It is exactly the kind of deal you do for a guy who has flashed major potential but you are not totally sold on. Good contract. Party pooper ha ha. If the contract is indeed like that, then it makes sense, and we don't want that. But your take seems to clash with the $30.2m guaranteed unless it's all front loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Party pooper ha ha. If the contract is indeed like that, then it makes sense, and we don't want that. But your take seems to clash with the $30.2m guaranteed unless it's all front loaded. It is $14.8m guaranteed at signing according to Over The Cap (Spotrac who I usually prefer of the two have not updated yet). It is quite common these days for a smaller number to be fully guaranteed at signing but for the agents to leak out the bigger guarantee number which is based on escalators as you get through the contract. Over The Cap have $0 guaranteed salary after year 2. The likelihood is that there is some sort of escalator clause that says if he is still on the roster on the third day of the league year next year then a chunk of the 2023 salary becomes guaranteed which would up the dead cap hit from $1.2m at the end of 2022 (probably to $4 or 5m). Then a further escalator that says if he is still on the roster on the third day of the league year in 2023 a chunk of his 2024 salary guarantees and so on down the line. OTC doesn't have those escalator details yet. Edited October 8, 2021 by GunnerBill 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 He's listed on the Jets depth chart as a "DL," but is a starter ahead of Shaq Lawson. Presumably, he's on the outside most of the time He's 6'4" and 288. The bookend is 6'3" and 255 lbs. I presume that means he's a strong side or LDE. That means he'll line up across from Spencer Brown when they play Buffalo. If Brown is as good as he appears to be, and continues to develop, Franklin-Meyers will be all but invisible versus Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: He's listed on the Jets depth chart as a "DL," but is a starter ahead of Shaq Lawson. Presumably, he's on the outside most of the time He's 6'4" and 288. The bookend is 6'3" and 255 lbs. I presume that means he's a strong side or LDE. That means he'll line up across from Spencer Brown when they play Buffalo. If Brown is as good as he appears to be, and continues to develop, Franklin-Meyers will be all but invisible versus Buffalo. He has played mainly as the left defensive end, yes. With Bryce Huff on the right side. The Saleh defense uses a bit of Jim Schwartz style wide 9 type stuff though as well so in practice the differences between the strong side end and the weakside are less pronounced than in say a McDermott defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It is actually in essence a 2 year $15m deal. They can get out after 2022 for $1.2m dead cap. It is exactly the kind of deal you do for a guy who has flashed major potential but you are not totally sold on. Good contract. Man if the Jets have hit with Myers who they picked up off the waiver wire and Huff who was an UDFA that is a hell of a boost for them. Think what both of their success in these first 4 weeks also shows is Robert Salah is a really good defensive coach and he doesn't need the Nick Bosas and the Dee Fords of the world to generate pressure off the edge. Ah, interesting. Not desperate at all, then. I think the Jets are beginning to look up a bit, unfortunately. I like Salah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It is $14.8m guaranteed at signing according to Over The Cap (Spotrac who I usually prefer of the two have not updated yet). It is quite common these days for a smaller number to be fully guaranteed at signing but for the agents to leak out the bigger guarantee number which is based on escalators as you get through the contract. Over The Cap have $0 guaranteed salary after year 2. The likelihood is that there is some sort of escalator clause that says if he is still on the roster on the third day of the league year next year then a chunk of the 2023 salary becomes guaranteed which would up the dead cap hit from $1.2m at the end of 2022 (probably to $4 or 5m). Then a further escalator that says if he is still on the roster on the third day of the league year in 2023 a chunk of his 2024 salary guarantees and so on down the line. OTC doesn't have those escalator details yet. Makes sense. I hate that people call this $30M guaranteed. They do, lately, but it's just another way to give agents a chance to puff up what the contract sounds like without actually having the contract live up to the puffery. If something isn't guaranteed unless you are on the roster a year from now, it isn't guaranteed now, and shouldn't be referred to that way. Not grumbling about you, Bill, just about how this is generally used in a misleading way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Well, it seems then it's a normal, decent contract then. Sadly, not the Jets being desperate and bursting their salary cap. Oh well. Bills will beat them regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Ah, interesting. Not desperate at all, then. I think the Jets are beginning to look up a bit, unfortunately. I like Salah. I do too. I think Saleh can coach defense. Whether he is one of those coordinators who never makes the jump to Head Coach there is no way of knowing yet, but he can coach defense. He has that completely undertalented Jets group lacking in star names playing above their station on that side of the ball - top half of the league in yards and point. The roster is still a long way off challenging though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 We have the Jets in 5 weeks. I thought it would be a laugher but now I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Ya I guess not everyone can be a day 1 starter, but that kind of contract would normally be reserved for after sustained success. He had 5 career sacks over 2 seasons (plus a season on IR). Jumping to a $55m extension after a good 4 game start to a season reeks of desperation. For a platoon guy, he's got a fair amount of experience in three uninjured years. 30% of the defensive snaps in 2018 in L.A. Injured in 2019. 44% of the D snaps last year with the Jets, and 67% this year. Wow, strip-sack of Brady in the 2018 Super Bowl. 13 QB hits in 15 games last year. Doesn't seem like a bad move, unfortunately. Edited October 8, 2021 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 That works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 This guy is a winner in my book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 11 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: https://www.nfl.com/news/jets-dl-john-franklin-meyers-agree-to-4-year-55m-extension 4 year extension with $30.2m guaranteed. Jets continue their storied tradition of falling in love hard and fast with D-linemen giving John Franklin-Meyers a big payday for notching 3 sacks in 4 games. Hopefully he turns out to be a flash in the pan and hampers their salary cap for the next few years. Probably gets traded next offseason after the honeymoon wears off and the gravity of playing for New Jersey sinks in. This dude was a monster against Tennessee. In the backfield almost play. Not sure what he’s done outside of the game but for one game - he looked to be awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Like others mentioned, this is a Beane type of deal that's not as lavish as it looks on the surface and worth a shot on lesser know player who could be a real find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 It helps to be playing next to Quinnen Williams who looks like he is turning into a fine player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Ah, interesting. Not desperate at all, then. I think the Jets are beginning to look up a bit, unfortunately. I like Salah. Sounds like a smart move to give someone a big payday in their eyes before he could have demanded a huge payday with 13 more games of that type of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: It helps to be playing next to Quinnen Williams who looks like he is turning into a fine player. I actually don't think Q has been that great so far this year. Not bad as such but not playing at his 2020 standard. He was inarguably the best player on the Jets last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I actually don't think Q has been that great so far this year. Not bad as such but not playing at his 2020 standard. He was inarguably the best player on the Jets last season. At this point so far....., in your opinion which of the top 2 DT drafted that year between Q and Oliver has been better so far and has more upside? Edited October 8, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: At this point so far....., in your opinion which of the top 2 DT drafted that year between Q and Oliver has been better so far and has more upside? Ed was much better as a rookie, Q was much better last year. Both up and down this year. I had Ed graded slightly higher at draft time but I think they were my #2 and #3 players so it was close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Never hear of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 The structure of the deal as other posters have mentioned basically makes it a one year deal with an option to pick up the rest as they can get out of the contract after 2022 with a small dead cap hit. It is the type of deal that benefits both sides. It looks foolish on the surface but digging into the details it is a sensible deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 We traded Milano?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I actually don't think Q has been that great so far this year. Not bad as such but not playing at his 2020 standard. He was inarguably the best player on the Jets last season. Really? From what I have seen he is really coming around. Hey, as long as the Bills win it's all cool!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 17 hours ago, JMF2006 said: Sounds like serial killers name lol underrated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Thanks to the pandemic, Johnson and Johnson is rife with cash. Might as well spread it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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