BADOLBILZ Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: The 2012 L.A. Kings disagree. Upsets once in a while are fun. But the best regular season team in the NHL hasn't won the Cup in 9 years (2012-2013 Blackhawks). Why should players be invested in a regular season that means so little? If you want to see more consistent effort.........make it worth something to the players..........there isn't enough at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: Upsets once in a while are fun. But the best regular season team in the NHL hasn't won the Cup in 9 years (2012-2013 Blackhawks). Why should players be invested in a regular season that means so little? If you want to see more consistent effort.........make it worth something to the players..........there isn't enough at stake. Eh, I like the long second season, but I do take your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Eh, I like the long second season, but I do take your point. The NHL point system and OT are as gimmicky as sports get in North America............so why not have a midseason play-in tournament.........or just give the top 4 teams byes and let the rest of the league fight it out in a 2-3 week series to qualify to play the best. Still get your long playoff season but you reward the best teams.........and incentivize the worst. I know these ideas are nothing new but effort like the Sabres have been giving in the first 6 games of the season shouldn't be unusual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Technically the Sabres are also 4-2 since they lost in OT Edited October 27, 2021 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 15 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Actually, the thing that makes hockey a sport where "team play" can beat superstars is that it's the pro sport where you get the least consistent effort from the product from night to night. When your team is playing hard and smart, it's fun to watch. The NBA has elicited greater effort by basically turning the players into greedy CEO's on the court.......there is so much money to be made. The NHL isn't going to have that kinda' $ motivation so they really should be looking to do things to make the regular season more important. The playoffs are way too ***** long. Byes for the top teams would be good. Nobody needs to see a 1 versus 8 series in round 1. Let the barely qualified teams fight it out in short series for the right to play the teams that dominated the regular season etc.. The NBA is also the most predictable team sport in the world. The outcomes are pre-determined by where the players agree in groups of 3 or 4 to play each offseason. Effort is irrelevant. We definitely need to see #1s vs #8s. Upsets happen every 2 or 3 years in the NHL. Its happened like 4 times in NBA history, including when round 1 was a best of 5. Shortening the seasons would help to that end. The lockout seasons have been fun to watch since you can't afford to go on a couple of 10 game skids, every game matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I actually dig the NBA play-in round they did this year. 100000% agree with whoever complained about the OT/Shootout win points system being super lame. Makes games with little meaning have even less meaning. I would be on board with a mid-season tournament. Would be cool if they could even include European/KHL teams at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 20 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Well seeing the Sabres started 9-3 the past 2 seasons, it was not hard to imagine they would start out like that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) https://www.si.com/hockey/news/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-chicago-blackhawks-abuse-report ‘What You Need to Know About the Chicago Blackhawks Abuse Report’ Quote The full report outlining the investigation into allegations against former Chicago Blackhawks video coach, Brad Aldrich, has been released, leading to seismic changes within the team's front office and beyond. Here's a breakdown of what you need to know. Stan Bowman is out as General Manager and President of Hockey Operations. Al MacIsaac is out as Vice President of Hockey Operations. The NHL announced that they have fined the Blackhawks $2 million for its "inadequate procedures and mishandling". Blackhawks owner and Chairman, Rocky Wirtz announced that anyone involved in this incident back in 2010 will no longer be involved with the organization moving forward. And the ripple effect has only just begun. Edited October 27, 2021 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: https://www.si.com/hockey/news/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-chicago-blackhawks-abuse-report ‘What You Need to Know About the Chicago Blackhawks Abuse Report’ That's just some disturbing, sick ***** that happened. From turning their back to players making fun of him at practice in front of coaches? ***** the Blackhawks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, TBBills said: Well seeing the Sabres started 9-3 the past 2 seasons, it was not hard to imagine they would start out like that again. They actually started 4-6-2 (2-3-1 first 6 games) last year. They were 9-2-1 (5-0-1) the previous year and 6-4-2 (3-3-0) the year before that. But that was with better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Chalk up another W. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 West Coast Win! Go Sabres! Let's go Buffalo! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Chalk up another W. In oveeeeeeeeeeeeeeertime! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Isles fan here but good for the Sabres. They have been down for so long its nice to see them playing well again. Hope it continues all season and they make the playoffs. I can relate because the Isles were horrible for a long time as well and then things changed with Lou Lamoriello and Barry Trotz running the show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Greg S said: Isles fan here but good for the Sabres. They have been down for so long its nice to see them playing well again. Hope it continues all season and they make the playoffs. I can relate because the Isles were horrible for a long time as well and then things changed with Lou Lamoriello and Barry Trotz running the show. Have you been to the new Arena? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Draconator said: Have you been to the new Arena? The Isles home opener isn't until Nov 20 vs Calgary. They are currently 3-2-1 on a season opening 13 game road trip. But I am definitely going to some games this year. If you are in the NYC area or travel to this area then you and other Sabres fans should come check out a game especially when the Sabres play at UBS arena. From what "people in the know" say its a fantastic looking arena. Here is a photo of UBS. Edited October 29, 2021 by Greg S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 32 minutes ago, Greg S said: The Isles home opener isn't until Nov 20 vs Calgary. They are currently 3-2-1 on a season opening 13 game road trip. But I am definitely going to some games this year. If you are in the NYC area or travel to this area then you and other Sabres fans should come check out a game especially when the Sabres play at UBS arena. From what "people in the know" say its a fantastic looking arena. Here is a photo of UBS. What I really like about that arena is how the majority of seating is in the lower bowl. You don't see upper decks as small as that barn. Gets the fans more engaged. Nice design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Greg S said: Isles fan here but good for the Sabres. They have been down for so long its nice to see them playing well again. Hope it continues all season and they make the playoffs. I can relate because the Isles were horrible for a long time as well and then things changed with Lou Lamoriello and Barry Trotz running the show. Hockey, more than any other sport, relies on coaching. What a difference Don Granato is making. If he's not the frontrunner for Coach of the Year at this early stage there's something wrong. You are seeing the McBeane/Bills template at work with the Sabres. Get rid of the locker room cancers, get guys to play for each other, give 100% effort every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Hockey, more than any other sport, relies on coaching. What a difference Don Granato is making. If he's not the frontrunner for Coach of the Year at this early stage there's something wrong. You are seeing the McBeane/Bills template at work with the Sabres. Get rid of the locker room cancers, get guys to play for each other, give 100% effort every night. He is doing a nice job. It is still very early but it looks like the Sabres have turned the corner. Obviously over 82 games there will be ups and downs in the season. The key will be how they handle the rough stretches. Hopefully Sabres fans can enjoy playoff hockey this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Jack Quinn and JJ Peterka are putting up some nice points in Rochester so far. I wonder if we get to see Quinn at some point or if management is content to let him play another full year in the A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Quenneville out as Panthers coach. https://sports.yahoo.com/report-joel-quenneville-out-as-florida-panthers-coach-011941261.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Allan Walsh @walsha I’m hearing this morning that several NHL owners are “very concerned and unhappy” with Gary Bettman’s leadership. I think even the owners realize it’s time for a change in the NHL and culture only changes from the top down. It is time to FIRE BETTMAN. 1/ Allan Walsh @walsha · 2h Replying to @walsha From the way Gary has mismanaged the horrific events in Chicago to his refusing to acknowledge a link between traumatic brain injury and CTE, for doing nothing to help retired players, for calling the NHL a “family”, for the Dept of Player Suspensions, 2/ Allan Walsh @walsha · 2h For the way the game is marketed, for the lack of any coherent global strategy, for turning his back on issues like painkiller, ambien and toradol abuse, for his lack of empathy and caring, for his 3 lockouts and all the lies. It’s time for Gary to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I really hope we don't get a Covid outbreak from playing these plague riddled Sharts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Jokeman Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 [quote]NRD says the framework of the reported Vegas-Buffalo deal that got held up on Friday was Eichel for Krebs, Tuch, Brisson OR Coghlan, and a conditional 1st based on Eichel’s playing time/availability Needless to say, it better not have been the Sabres who backed out on that.[/quote] That would be a good haul for Eichel, let's hope Vegas keeps struggling and we can make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Well Skinner is already halfway to his goal total from last year. Good on ya, Jeff. This pairing of Skinner and Tage is looking pretty ok and Cozens looked better without Skinner on his wing from what I saw, which was about 50% of the game due to distractions. Some bad puck luck on couple of the goals against. Maybe one or two Anderson wants back. Some bouncing, fluttering pucks through screens. Hertl is a stud. He totally undressed Dahlin to put this game out of reach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 10/29/2021 at 12:08 PM, Jauronimo said: Jack Quinn and JJ Peterka are putting up some nice points in Rochester so far. I wonder if we get to see Quinn at some point or if management is content to let him play another full year in the A? I think they may want these two kids attached at the hip for the full year. I'm ok if that's the plan, only call them up together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Last night they played pretty good. It shows how the lack of depth affects them. I expect them to win tomorrow against Seattle who haven't been that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Git r done KA 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Git r done KA Sabres should take that deal and run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Lottery protected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Finally, our long national nightmare is over. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Do we like the return on this trade given the circumstances? I know nothing about Krebs or Tuch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Lottery protected? Yes top 10 protected. not that it matters. LV has to be a cup favorite now. Edited November 4, 2021 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Do we like the return on this trade given the circumstances? I know nothing about Krebs or Tuch. I'm fine with it. Not giddy, but more than OK. Tuch will bring some jam and has offensive skill. Plus, my wife is a friend of one of his family members that live in our neighborhood. Maybe I can score some free tix out of this trade? LOL Krebs is a work in progress but has skill and is a leader. The first obviously remains to be seen. Edited November 4, 2021 by Beast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) I’m underwhelmed. I can’t believe it took this long to get that return. Why some team didn’t offer a deal like this (or better) long ago is beyond me. I guess teams really were scared by Eichel’s injury. But I can guarantee that there will be some GM’s wishing they would have beat this offer once Eichel is back on the ice. Tuch is a nice top 6 W if he can stay healthy (3rd year in a row he’s missed significant time). And he grew up a Sabres fan, so I’m sure that held value to Kevyn Adams (him wanting players that are “proud to wear the Jersey”). Krebs was VGK top prospect but he’s been struggling in the NHL this season. I really like him though. Definitely a nice piece to add. The 1st will be a late pick but this looks like it could be a deep draft (definitely deeper than last year). I was really hoping for at least 1 more big piece but it is what it is. Definitely less than what Eichel is worth, but clearly the injury hurt the return. No doubt Eichel is worth way more than this. I just pray Krebs turns into something good. If he doesn’t this trade will hurt for many years to come. Edited November 4, 2021 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Eichel traded to Vegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 well, that’s one way to increase attendance... 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I’m underwhelmed. I can’t believe it took this long to get that return. Why some team didn’t offer a deal like this (or better) long ago is beyond me. I guess teams really were scared by Eichel’s injury. But I can guarantee that there will be some GM’s wishing they would have beat this offer once Eichel is back on the ice. Tuch is a nice top 6 W if he can stay healthy (3rd year in a row he’s missed significant time). And he grew up a Sabres fan, so I’m sure that held value to Kevyn Adams (him wanting players that are “proud to wear the Jersey”). Krebs was VGK top prospect but he’s been struggling in the NHL this season. The 1st will be a late pick but this looks like it could be a deep draft (definitely deeper than last year). I was really hoping for at least 1 more big piece but it is what it is. Definitely less than what Eichel is worth, but clearly the injury hurt the return. No doubt Eichel is worth way more than this. I just pray Krebs turns into something good. If he doesn’t this trade will hurt for many years to come. I'm at the point of whatever. A couple decent pieces and a 1st rounder to cleanse the organization. I'll take it considering Jack's, IMO, ***** attitude and injury. I don't look at this as much different than when Beane came in and started trading the Bills more talented players. Culture obviously does matter. Edited November 4, 2021 by Beast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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