Meatloaf63 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Cleveland looks sharp so far! Hopefully Josh gets blasted in the media this week while Baker and others get praise. I think Josh plays better this way! Watching Cleveland roll KC in a way we could only dream of. It’s early, but it’s been fun to watch. Too much finesse on the Bills today… Edited September 12, 2021 by Meatloaf63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Agree on the offensive strategy. They seemed to know what we were calling. They seemed to have 3 DBs near every pass. Poor blocking, lack of execution all around. I think everyone knows what we’re doing now. It doesn’t even look like they practice the run game. It’s too easy for a defense drop everyone and get after Allen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, vincec said: No one was getting that punt off. Correct. Sloopy snap, sloopy hold, too much time before he kicked. To me. Haak jacked that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Josh and the deep ball had been a consistent struggle for him. He still can’t throw an accurate deep ball. It’s a concern at this point. deep ball is such a small part of the game if you want to be concerned about something the intermediate accuracy was bad today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Cameron Heyward absolutely wrecked our interior line. Our OTs can hold their own vs the best. We've seen it. We have seen our interior oline vs great DTs get man handled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Allen sucked. He was elite last season. There is the difference between today’s game and last season. The team goes as Allen goes. 16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Shocker…. They did nothing to upgrade either. 15 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: He sucked. Plain and simple. He had an excellent 2nd half last season against the Steelers…. He was worse in the 2nd half this game. He had a bad game. 12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Josh and the deep ball had been a consistent struggle for him. He still can’t throw an accurate deep ball. It’s a concern at this point. 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yea… but he loves ***** around at practice. 7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Why the ***** is he still here? Dude is average at best…they should’ve use his cap and got someone better…. Just a lot of questionable off-season moves that reared their ugly head in today’s game. 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: What did you expect? They did nothing to upgrade these areas. Looks like you were right. You are the smartest guy in the room. Beane and McDermott are below average at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, vincec said: No one was getting that punt off. I missed that play, what exactly happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Yup. Did you also see Spain playing guard for them. What happened to that guy in Buffalo? He would start over any of our current guards. Mutual parting of ways at the beginning of last season. Didn't we release him like three games into the season, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Norcalbillsfan said: I agree, I think everything kinda stemmed from the O line getting absolutely owned by the steelers 4. The pressure stressed Allen, making play calls difficult. Not sure why everyone is saying Allen played like trash, he had an off day but there isn't a qb in the nfl that succeeds from that kind of front 4 pressure. (See mahomes superbowl). We made a few huge mistakes against an elite D. You don't win games that way. I don't get the Allen hate either. Not a great game, but he didn't lose it for us. We outgained the Steelers by 120 yards. We lost because of o-line and secondary penalties, our inability to convert on the Steelers side of the field, and because all of the "big plays" seemed to go in favor of the Steelers. This game doesn't worry me too much on its own. Also, Tre White's holding call that negated his INT was a very suspect call. If that play stands, there's a good chance that we win this game going away and it's a weeklong party here on TSW. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Singletary looks good to me.. he hardly ever gets the ball though 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 This is what happens to over confident teams. Offense thought they would be able to come out and do what they wanted but couldn’t execute. The defense started off good but a lack of pressure in the second half cost them. It’s on to week 2 but the team deserves every bit of criticism they get. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: At the cap Feliciano re-signed for, who do you suggest they should have gotten? Should work the cap better and figure it out. Other teams do… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornpam Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, MPT said: Disagree about DL and punter. The DL played very well the first half until the Steelers figured out they could just hold them every play without getting called for it. Haack had a few very nice punts and didn't shank any like their punter did (or like Bojo used to). On the blocked punt one of the Steelers came right up the middle basically unblocked. Our punter is slow as molasses didn’t you see that in preseason. He stands there and stands there! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I missed that play, what exactly happened? Lol the steelers came right up the middle virtually untouched and everyone is blaming the punter 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Chandler#81 said: Correct. Sloopy snap, sloopy hold, too much time before he kicked. To me. Haak jacked that. Any of the four steelers in his lap could have blocked it…. Took forever to get it off. I was surprised the announcers were surprised it got blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 This game is on the OC, 51 passes, no balance, gimmicky play calls. Not good. Too many tough squads in the AFC. Not panicking yet Pitt has one of the best D’s in the league. Definitely need a strong bounce back next week. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Pittsburg adjusted in the second half, we didn’t.., I definitely saw some growth. There were some nice clean pockets for Josh to step up into, but Steelers secondary played really well today. The bad plays are the Josh designed runs. That isn’t necessary anymore unless it’s 2nd and 3. Playcalling was too cute like others said. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Personally, I burning my Frank Sinatra records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said: I don't get the Allen hate either. Not a great game, but he didn't lose it for us. We outgained the Steelers by 120 yards. We lost because of o-line and secondary penalties, our inability to convert on the Steelers side of the field, and because all of the "big plays" seemed to go in favor of the Steelers. This game doesn't worry me too much on its own. Also, Tre White's holding call that negated his INT was a very suspect call. If that play stands, there's a good chance that we win this game going away and it's a weeklong party here on TSW. Criticism does not equate into hate. Allen didn't play well. He missed a wide open TD by 5 yards with no pressure. That just can't keep happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Cameron Heyward absolutely wrecked our interior line. Our OTs can hold their own vs the best. We've seen it. We have seen our interior oline vs great DTs get man handled. Yes! See 2020 afc championship, Poe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, popcornpam said: Our punter is slow as molasses didn’t you see that in preseason. He stands there and stands there! He also has his head down like he has all day to punt. After I saw his first punt I knew the Steelers would get to him today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Should work the cap better and figure it out. Other teams do… Every team has holes. Especially since the cap went down this year, which made it really tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, popcornpam said: Our punter is slow as molasses didn’t you see that in preseason. He stands there and stands there! That punt didn't get blocked because the punter is slow. It got blocked because someone missed their blocking assignment and the defender came right up the middle. No other punter would have had a different outcome. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, phypon said: I actually made the same point to a buddy of mine today before the game. I agree. I think you're both nuts but we'll see 🤣 Pitt could easily be a contender for the best team in the afc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Correct. Sloopy snap, sloopy hold, too much time before he kicked. To me. Haak jacked that. I don’t understand what you mean by “sloppy hold” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Mango said: 1. Sanders should have caught that seem pass that resulted in a pint the next down. I thought there were a lot of passes like that by a number of receivers. Beasley seemed to have a few. Yes, they were contested and knocked out (and not drops) but could have been held onto. They need to take lessons from the guy who COULD hang onto contested catches today: Knox. Josh also seemed off. Not terrible...but not his best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 QB 1 needs to be better. you hold a team to 16. You should WIN. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Governor said: I definitely saw some growth. There were some nice clean pockets for Josh to step up into, but Steelers secondary played really well today. The bad plays are the Josh designed runs. That isn’t necessary anymore unless it’s 2nd and 3. Playcalling was too cute like others said. I wholeheartedly agree, but Allen was making some incredibly bad choices often throwing into 2 and 3 man coverage. He’s got to do better, got to make better choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don’t understand what you mean by “sloppy hold” Hack held the ball Ike he was infatuated with it, and wanted to give it a big sloppy kiss… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 But where's the silver lining? All this negativity for one loss? Geez. I'm totally joking. But seriously, I think this will light a real fire under their rears. They seemed to respond well to losses last years. Still 16 games to go. So....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Should work the cap better and figure it out. Other teams do… What exactly did you want them to do? The cap unexpectedly shrunk a LOT. Please point to the other teams that 'handled' better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, MAJBobby said: QB 1 needs to be better. you hold a team to 16. You should WIN. Um, the Steelers scored 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Um, the Steelers scored 20? umm not on Defense. Take 7 away. So even more on point. Defense holds a team to 16 And you have a 250M QB. You SHOULD win. also they scored 23 Edited September 12, 2021 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Apocalypse Nuts said: But where's the silver lining? All this negativity for one loss? Geez. I'm totally joking. But seriously, I think this will light a real fire under their rears. They seemed to respond well to losses last years. Still 16 games to go. So....... This is a big loss. This game might be a tie breaker to get in or home field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: I wholeheartedly agree, but Allen was making some incredibly bad choices often throwing into 2 and 3 man coverage. He’s got to do better, got to make better choices. A couple of those were missed penalties by the refs...he thought he had an offside and a 12 men on the field so he thought he had a free play and the refs missed it two separate times Edited September 12, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: What makes big Ben not good enough? His most recent season was statistically as good as any other lol he had one horrendous half of football in the AFC divisional round You’re not wrong, his numbers were solid. I just didn’t see anything special from Big Ben compared to all the other great QB’s in the game today. The Steelers aren’t an offense that scares anyone, and he threw for under 200 yards today. We win today if we didn’t get dominated by the Steelers defense. Other teams aren’t getting that dominated by the Steelers, I guarantee. I’m excited to see what this Steelers team is all about. It’s a long season, we could take the Lombardi home for all I know. I just think we played very poorly today, and I’m not ready to credit that all to the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don’t understand what you mean by “sloppy hold” Ok, we’ll, I’m not gonna do this for everybody who’s eyes aren’t watching, but after he handled the poor snap, reset himself with no urgency encouraged by forcing his rhythm to adjust, he then appropriately ate the football. Its one of of those ‘Football 101’ things.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Yes! See 2020 afc championship, Poe I have thought Dawkins is good and a good enough replacement for Cordy Glenn’s best few years here. I like Dawkins but he’s not in the top the conversation with guys at the top of the depth chart across the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This is a big loss. This game might be a tie breaker to get in or home field. It's also Week 1. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: What exactly did you want them to do? The cap unexpectedly shrunk a LOT. Please point to the other teams that 'handled' better? Exactly. I personally wanted the Bills to draft a C/G in the 2nd but they ID’d their big need as upgrading the DL/pass rush. So that’s where the draft choices went. They gambled that the OL that allowed Allen to be at the top of the league in passing was “enough” and they may have lost - we’ll see against other teams. Heyward gave us fits last year also 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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