Kumerow and the WR Glut

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Da webster guy said:

 

Thats great, but he just dropped two passes in live action.   That's a flag to me.  Could be an anomaly, and every receiver drops passes, but two in one game is concerning.  And they arent Josh bullets either.

A flag to you or I is nowhere as important as what his HC, OC or QB are thinking about the guy, as you said all receivers drop passes, hell Diggs has dropped two passes in the same game himself, There is nothing to be getting worked up about over a preseason practice session. 
 

Go Bills!!!

[BobbyC81]

6 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

 

Difference is Kummerow actually makes the play, Duke more often doesn't.  Touchdown was nice but the toe tapping catch Kummerow made was great.  Meanwhile as Duke Williams was falling down it was an easy interception the Bear CB had from Webb had he been able to hold onto the ball, that was Duke's fault.

 

Duke also should have held onto that TD throw in the Texans playoff game, he holds onto that we probably win.

 

The great Duke experiment in Buffalo is over, I dont see how he sticks.

Duke has dropped at least 3 passes this preseason.  I’d be surprised if he remains.

[Ralonzo]

7 hours ago, dneveu said:

mostly the journeymen are continually pushed out by new 20-22 year old kids who have draft pedigree and or some super plus traits (size, speed, hands, polish, etc).

 

I knew it was a plus trait!

[The Wiz]

10 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I get the touchdown endearing him to Bills fan because Josh threw that football so hard that it could go through a car wash and not get wet.

 

From what's been reported in practice, Kumerow has separated himself from the other WR's fighting for that 6th spot.  I get the Duke Williams comparison but he doesn't play special teams.  If we don't want to risk losing Stevenson than we can simply IR him before the final cut downs.  If not then we can carry seven WR's if need be.

I have never heard this expression and now I am mad because I love it and will probably never be able to use it (unless of course it's during a Game Day Thread).

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Despite being for the 6th WR, this is one of the most intriguing battles battles of camp for me. I'll admit it, (and I hate to) I'm really feeding into the Kumerow hype in the same way I did for Chris Hogan who ended up having a VERY solid career. A perpetual camp stud who just needed a chance. It's a great storyline and I hope he makes the roster. If I was a betting man then I would put my chips on Kumerow. I just never felt the same about Duke Williams for some reason. Cheers 🍺

5 hours ago, Buftex said:

You can't keep everyone.  McKenzie seems to be making a strong case for himself to be a bigger part of the offense.  However, he is still not showing his hands to be reliable on kick receiving.  Stevenson is a 2021 draft-pick...he looks to be a legit return threat, and has shown some receiving ability as well.  Everyone loves Kumerow, but he may be the odd man out, if they only keep six.  I didn't realize Kumerow was 29 already...I say, see if Green Bay will give you a 4th or 5th rounder for him...

 

This is an overlooked point. McKenzie taking over the returner role would've been big for JK as it might free up an additional roster spot. I hope he gets it together for the last 2 preseason games. He's truly electrifying in the open field. 

[Buftex]

2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Despite being for the 6th WR, this is one of the most intriguing battles battles of camp for me. I'll admit it, (and I hate to) I'm really feeding into the Kumerow hype in the same way I did for Chris Hogan who ended up having a VERY solid career. A perpetual camp stud who just needed a chance. It's a great storyline and I hope he makes the roster. If I was a betting man then I would put my chips on Kumerow. I just never felt the same about Duke Williams for some reason. Cheers 🍺

So, if Diggs, Beasley, Sanders and Gabriel are all locks, you can only pick 2 of these three:  McKenzie, Kumerow, Stevenson.  Which two do you choose?

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

11 minutes ago, Buftex said:

So, if Diggs, Beasley, Sanders and Gabriel are all locks, you can only pick 2 of these three:  McKenzie, Kumerow, Stevenson.  Which two do you choose?

 

McKenzie is an absolute lock so I'll take him out of the equation.

 

I love Stevenson's athletiscm and he's a homegrown draft pick so he has that going for him. I don't think the coaches are going to take the chance of McKenzie potentially losing a game on a dropped punt and that makes Stevenson all the more valuable.

 

Kumerow was a guy living purely on hype and (Aaron Rodgers) word of mouth, but now he's excelling in the off-season. He's also got the ST thing going for him along w/ great RedZone potential. As was said before, he's older than I originally thought so that could be a deal breaker. 

 

My heart says Kumerow, but my brain says Stevenson. I'm gonna go w/ my heart. Just because. 

 

 

Edited August 23, 2021 by ChronicAndKnuckles

[Mat68]

Kumerow is a JAG.   Now he is one that plays teams and can do a little bit of everything.  He seems like a glue guy similar to Zimmer on defense.  For a championship team those types are important.  Maybe on madden or fantasy Kumerow doesnt make sense on paper but come Nov or Dec and Buffalo is down a wr or 2 I think he is a guy that will do whats needed.

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, dneveu said:

 

Could also be looked at like Jones role is secure.

Yeah it's tough to say for sure.

[marky]

McKenzie wouldn't surprise me. He dropped a punt in the pregame. He dropped a punt in the game. Then he got targeted a lot. McD does that right before he moves someone, like a highlight tape for other teams. Sammy. Dareus. Zay Jones. Next up is Knox if he keeps dropping too. One job. Catch the ball.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

16 hours ago, beavis said:

McKenzie wouldn't surprise me. He dropped a punt in the pregame. He dropped a punt in the game. Then he got targeted a lot. McD does that right before he moves someone, like a highlight tape for other teams. Sammy. Dareus. Zay Jones. Next up is Knox if he keeps dropping too. One job. Catch the ball.

 

I would be shocked.  I think he had 6 TDs last year, and is a bit of a locker room leader.  He's also the best option beyond this year if they move on from bease in 2022.  

[letsgoteam]

2 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

I would be shocked.  I think he had 6 TDs last year, and is a bit of a locker room leader.  He's also the best option beyond this year if they move on from bease in 2022.  

I think McK is a lock too. 

[Kelly the Dog]

It’s funny, and sad, that the WR glut became a problem in one day. We had 10-11. We lost 5 in one day. McKenzie got hurt although we don’t know extent. Duke and Lance released. Cole and Gabriel sent home. We don’t want to play Diggs who just returned or Sanders. Hodgins and Stevenson are out. 
 

That leaves Kumerow, Gentry, Brandon Powell and something named Tre Miller for Saturday? Who might I be forgetting?

[Don Otreply]

Not much of a glut right now…, 

 

Past time to buckle down for these players, season is about yo start, this is no time to be lax, 

 

Go Bills!!!

[NewEra]

On 8/23/2021 at 7:54 AM, SCBills said:

Sanders and Beasley are in their 30’s, both still excellent WR’s, but we throw the ball a ton and I’d like to think our staff paid attention to what happened in the Playoffs last year with injuries.  
 

Factor in a 17 game season, and I think it makes sense to carry 7.  
 

Kumerow is a guy we know Josh trusts, and can come in for red zone packages.  
 

Stevenson is a high potential guy that we’ll lose to waivers.  You can’t teach speed, and he can absolutely fly.  We got him as a steal in a loaded WR draft.  Maybe he only plays sparingly this year, but that’s 3 more years of a rookie contract speed threat.  
 

The spot can come from Tight End.  Carry Knox and Hollister, with Gilliam as FB/TE3. 
 

 

I agree and I hope that we keep 7 WRs, but I don’t think that’s going to happen unless the cut Taiwan, which I unfortunately don’t see happening.  But there’s still hope!  Losing Stevenson would 👎🏻 Imo.   He’s a player worth spending some time and developing.  Dude can fly.  Wasn’t it 4th and 10 with a minute left when Stevenson beat the Detroit cb for the gw catch?  Keep him

[HardyBoy]

On 8/23/2021 at 9:49 AM, Jobot said:

Objectively, we're talking about the 6th receiver on the team. How many balls this year will be thrown to the #6 receiver? Probably not too many, and whoever this player is, will probably not be the sole difference to a single W or L this upcoming season. For that reason... you keep whoever you think has the higher potential, and you live with seeing Kumorow in a different uniform.

He would come in a sub for whoever he backs up for a certain number of snaps a game. He’d be the primary receiver on plays where he is in the game and the play call calls for that receiver to be the primary option. 
 

I don’t think they would call different plays because he was in the game, so he’ll get his shot. Gotta remember the other players are not at the same position and they aren’t going to not let his routes be primary when he subs in ever, otherwise they would know he’s basically in as a decoy while Diggs or Davis catch a breather in their outside receiver position.

 

That said they’ll play different formations to get those guys breathers too, so probably will be more of a matchup thing when he gets in, but he will play and he won’t be hidden as a non option/last option every play. 

[ColoradoBills]

4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

It’s funny, and sad, that the WR glut became a problem in one day. We had 10-11. We lost 5 in one day. McKenzie got hurt although we don’t know extent. Duke and Lance released. Cole and Gabriel sent home. We don’t want to play Diggs who just returned or Sanders. Hodgins and Stevenson are out. 
 

That leaves Kumerow, Gentry, Brandon Powell and something named Tre Miller for Saturday? Who might I be forgetting?

 

Just need Kumerow catching a few touchdowns.  Hope they got a camera on Aaron when that happens.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

It’s funny, and sad, that the WR glut became a problem in one day. We had 10-11. We lost 5 in one day. McKenzie got hurt although we don’t know extent. Duke and Lance released. Cole and Gabriel sent home. We don’t want to play Diggs who just returned or Sanders. Hodgins and Stevenson are out. 
 

That leaves Kumerow, Gentry, Brandon Powell and something named Tre Miller for Saturday? Who might I be forgetting?

 

I have no idea who Tre Miller is so you may know something I don't.

 

We had 12 WR, with the names in red presumed unavailable because known to be injured/not practicing before today:

Diggs

Sanders

Beasley

Davis

McKenzie

Kumerow

Hodgins

Powell
Stevenson

Gentry
Williams

Lenoir

 

Now we have

Diggs

Sanders

Beasley

Davis

McKenzie

Kumerow

Hodgins (may practice this week)

Powell
Stevenson

Gentry

Gafford

 

My guess is in this game, we see some early Kumerow, then a lot of Powell and Gentry with a splash of Gafford towards the end.

Thats ASSuming we predict McKenzie will be available for the opener, otherwise we may bubble-wrap Powell as the new return guy.

I'm also wondering if we might see more (1,2) or (2,1) sets with either 2 TE or with Gilliam as fullback.

 

We may also see Breida (5 KR for SF) or Kerrith Whyte returning some kicks (he did in college, and has 14 KR in the NFL).

 

[UConn James]

Hoping & thinking that we do keep 7 WRs and cut Taiwan Jones. Very little risk that anyone is going to pick up a 33-year-old special teamer. If/when we may need him he’ll be there and/or can be put on the PS.

[Kelly the Dog]

32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I have no idea who Tre Miller is so you may know something I don't.

 

We had 12 WR, with the names in red presumed unavailable because known to be injured/not practicing before today:

Diggs

Sanders

Beasley

Davis

McKenzie

Kumerow

Hodgins

Powell
Stevenson

Gentry
Williams

Lenoir

 

Now we have

Diggs

Sanders

Beasley

Davis

McKenzie

Kumerow

Hodgins (may practice this week)

Powell
Stevenson

Gentry

Gafford

 

My guess is in this game, we see some early Kumerow, then a lot of Powell and Gentry with a splash of Gafford towards the end.

Thats ASSuming we predict McKenzie will be available for the opener, otherwise we may bubble-wrap Powell as the new return guy.

I'm also wondering if we might see more (1,2) or (2,1) sets with either 2 TE or with Gilliam as fullback.

 

We may also see Breida (5 KR for SF) or Kerrith Whyte returning some kicks (he did in college, and has 14 KR in the NFL).

 

On nfl.com they list a Tre Walker (not Miller) as a WR on Bills. Don’t know anything about him. 
 

Edit: They just had some old info. Back in May we released Walker when we signed Lenoir. 
 

 

Edited August 25, 2021 by Kelly the Dog

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

On nfl.com they list a Tre Walker (not Miller) as a WR on Bills. Don’t know anything about him. 
 

 

 

Well...he isn't listed on the Buffalobills.com roster

There isn't a recent transaction with a Tre Walker on Buffalobills.com

 

*rummage* *rummage* *rummage*

 

Looks as though he signed with the Bills as an UDFA on May 13th:

05/13

Signed undrafted free agents CB Olaijah Griffin, CB Nick McCloud, TE Quintin Morris, S Tariq Thompson, OL Syrus Tuitele and WR Tre Walker. Also signed OL Steven Gonzalez and LB Mike Bell.

 

Curiously, when I searched the Buffalobilss.com transactions page online, there was NOT an indication of him being released on the Bills site

 

But, I found this:

https://buffalowdown.com/2021/05/26/buffalo-bills-sign-wr-lance-lenoir-release-wr-tre-walker/

Evidently we *had* a UDFA rookie named Tre Walker on the roster for just under 2 weeks, and we released him to sign Lance Lenoir.

 

The Bills transaction page shows Lance Lenoir being released today, but curiously also doesn't show a transaction for when they signed him.  Perhaps the person who maintains the page was on vacation, or playing Everquest or something that day.

 

Anyway, there's your answer: he was with the Bills for a cup of coffee in mid to late May, and has been gone since.

[machine gun kelly]

Well, the good news seems to be those not practicing are most likely on the team with the exception possibly, not probably Butler.  Even though he took a pay cut, it’s not clear

to me he is an absolute lock at the 53.

 

I hope these guys are ok and leave it.  Roster cuts will be very interesting next Tuesday.  Between the battles at WR, Defensive Line, and Secondary, we almost assuredly will be surprised by 1 or 2 cuts.

[Greatdane21]

Seems like every year the Bills think they have a glut of players at a position ,the injuries start happening . So lookout QB ,LB,OL, and of course WR

 

 

[maryland-bills-fan]

One thing that I have not seen talked about is this.   If your offense uses a certain type of player or position a lot, well then you need more players at that position. The reason is that you want to have some variation in the strenths of the players,  you want to have fresh legs to come in during a game and over the season AND you want to be able to replace players who are injured or need time to recover from a minor ding.  .... ... Yes this is obvious. ... ...  Remember last year we ended the season with 3 gimpy WR and were out of the playoffs. ... .... ... We play a lot of 3 and 4 wides (early season article "

Through four games, the Buffalo Bills have used a spread formation with either three or four wide receivers on 92.5% of their snaps, according to News charts. That’s tops in the NFL.

The breakdown is 69.6% using three wides (or 11 personnel) and 22.9% using four wides (or 10 personnel)."  https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/how-often-are-bills-using-three-or-four-wide-receivers-more-than-any-other-team/article_1522e198-09ad-11eb-bf9d-cf4ebecbaaa0.html   ....Another source for the season has us using 15%  4 WR,,,,,,,,,,71% 3 WR,,,,,,,, and 9% 2 WR...,,, .... ....   https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html    86% of the time we have at least 3 wide recievers on the field. ...  Going 6 WR on the roster  just gives one backup for each position and there is a difference between a deep threat guy and a slot receiver. ......... .................   7 WR is NOT excessive for a game day or for being stocked for the long season.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

35 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

One thing that I have not seen talked about is this.   If your offense uses a certain type of player or position a lot, well then you need more players at that position. The reason is that you want to have some variation in the strenths of the players,  you want to have fresh legs to come in during a game and over the season AND you want to be able to replace players who are injured or need time to recover from a minor ding.  .... ... Yes this is obvious. ... ...  Remember last year we ended the season with 3 gimpy WR and were out of the playoffs. ... .... ... We play a lot of 3 and 4 wides (early season article "

Through four games, the Buffalo Bills have used a spread formation with either three or four wide receivers on 92.5% of their snaps, according to News charts. That’s tops in the NFL.

The breakdown is 69.6% using three wides (or 11 personnel) and 22.9% using four wides (or 10 personnel)."  https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/how-often-are-bills-using-three-or-four-wide-receivers-more-than-any-other-team/article_1522e198-09ad-11eb-bf9d-cf4ebecbaaa0.html   ....Another source for the season has us using 15%  4 WR,,,,,,,,,,71% 3 WR,,,,,,,, and 9% 2 WR...,,, .... ....   https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html    86% of the time we have at least 3 wide recievers on the field. ...  Going 6 WR on the roster  just gives one backup for each position and there is a difference between a deep threat guy and a slot receiver. ......... .................   7 WR is NOT excessive for a game day or for being stocked for the long season.

 

It's excessive for a game day 46, however i could see it argued that you want 7 on the 53 though.  Especially since the TE's aren't great.

 

The practice squad rules also allow you to carry significantly more players, as well as make them available on the "55".  

[Jobot]

22 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

He would come in a sub for whoever he backs up for a certain number of snaps a game. He’d be the primary receiver on plays where he is in the game and the play call calls for that receiver to be the primary option. 
 

I don’t think they would call different plays because he was in the game, so he’ll get his shot. Gotta remember the other players are not at the same position and they aren’t going to not let his routes be primary when he subs in ever, otherwise they would know he’s basically in as a decoy while Diggs or Davis catch a breather in their outside receiver position.

 

That said they’ll play different formations to get those guys breathers too, so probably will be more of a matchup thing when he gets in, but he will play and he won’t be hidden as a non option/last option every play. 

 

So you think it's pretty much coming down to who can add to the team this season opposed to losing your higher ceiling guy?

I guess I wouldn't go against that argument based on what I've perceived from this coaching staff.

[Behindenemylines]

14 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

One thing that I have not seen talked about is this.   If your offense uses a certain type of player or position a lot, well then you need more players at that position. The reason is that you want to have some variation in the strenths of the players,  you want to have fresh legs to come in during a game and over the season AND you want to be able to replace players who are injured or need time to recover from a minor ding.  .... ... Yes this is obvious. ... ...  Remember last year we ended the season with 3 gimpy WR and were out of the playoffs. ... .... ... We play a lot of 3 and 4 wides (early season article "

Through four games, the Buffalo Bills have used a spread formation with either three or four wide receivers on 92.5% of their snaps, according to News charts. That’s tops in the NFL.

The breakdown is 69.6% using three wides (or 11 personnel) and 22.9% using four wides (or 10 personnel)."  https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/how-often-are-bills-using-three-or-four-wide-receivers-more-than-any-other-team/article_1522e198-09ad-11eb-bf9d-cf4ebecbaaa0.html   ....Another source for the season has us using 15%  4 WR,,,,,,,,,,71% 3 WR,,,,,,,, and 9% 2 WR...,,, .... ....   https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html    86% of the time we have at least 3 wide recievers on the field. ...  Going 6 WR on the roster  just gives one backup for each position and there is a difference between a deep threat guy and a slot receiver. ......... .................   7 WR is NOT excessive for a game day or for being stocked for the long season.

Good post!  And with the addition of the extra game it changes the percentages of injury and illness significantly.  
 

I’m of the opinion since we are a passing team you’ve got to have healthy receivers. As Maryland posted we were out of the playoffs with hurt receivers. 
 

 

[DCbillsfan]

14 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

One thing that I have not seen talked about is this.   If your offense uses a certain type of player or position a lot, well then you need more players at that position. The reason is that you want to have some variation in the strenths of the players,  you want to have fresh legs to come in during a game and over the season AND you want to be able to replace players who are injured or need time to recover from a minor ding.  .... ... Yes this is obvious. ... ...  Remember last year we ended the season with 3 gimpy WR and were out of the playoffs. ... .... ... We play a lot of 3 and 4 wides (early season article "

Through four games, the Buffalo Bills have used a spread formation with either three or four wide receivers on 92.5% of their snaps, according to News charts. That’s tops in the NFL.

The breakdown is 69.6% using three wides (or 11 personnel) and 22.9% using four wides (or 10 personnel)."  https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/how-often-are-bills-using-three-or-four-wide-receivers-more-than-any-other-team/article_1522e198-09ad-11eb-bf9d-cf4ebecbaaa0.html   ....Another source for the season has us using 15%  4 WR,,,,,,,,,,71% 3 WR,,,,,,,, and 9% 2 WR...,,, .... ....   https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/personnel-grouping-frequency.html    86% of the time we have at least 3 wide recievers on the field. ...  Going 6 WR on the roster  just gives one backup for each position and there is a difference between a deep threat guy and a slot receiver. ......... .................   7 WR is NOT excessive for a game day or for being stocked for the long season.

Agree 100%.  A 7th WR would most likely be inactive on game days but you have an extra WR if/when another WR gets banged up.  I believe this is why they didn't retain Andre Roberts.  They wanted a guy who had better WR skills.  Keeping Stevenson as WR7 makes sense imo.  Let him develop better as a route runner, practice with the team, and if needed dress him on Sundays.

13 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

It's excessive for a game day 46, however i could see it argued that you want 7 on the 53 though.  Especially since the TE's aren't great.

 

The practice squad rules also allow you to carry significantly more players, as well as make them available on the "55".  

A team can dress 48 players on game day as long as 8 players are OL guys.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

How did the NFLPA agree to more games without more roster spots? There should be 3 more roster spots for every extra game added. 

 

In fact wasn't that part of the initial deal? How did we get extra games but not 55-56 man rosters? 

Edited August 26, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

How did the NFLPA agree to more games without more roster spots? There should be 3 more roster spots for every extra game added. 

 

In fact wasn't that part of the initial deal? How did we get extra games but not 55-56 man rosters? 

 

They do still have the expanded practice squad. 

[Metal Man]

The Bills needing extra WRs based on the offense they run makes sense and the arguments above about how banged up the WRs were in the AFC championship game are valid.

 

However I think if we end up in the AFC championship game again with a banged up Diggs, Beasley and Sanders those guys are still going to be the ones who play regardless of the depth behind them. The only way the #6 and #7 WRs on this roster would see significant snaps in a playoff game is if everyone above them is injured enough to be in street clothes.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

26 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

They do still have the expanded practice squad. 

I know they kept the PS rules from last year I believe so it helps if you sneak a player on the PS. But there should be increased roster size. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I know they kept the PS rules from last year I believe so it helps if you sneak a player on the PS. But there should be increased roster size. 

 

Maybe down the line, they expand it - it's always about money though.

[ColoradoBills]

8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I know they kept the PS rules from last year I believe so it helps if you sneak a player on the PS. But there should be increased roster size. 

 

They sort of did.  

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29820641/inside-new-nfl-roster-rules-2020-expanded-rosters-practice-squad-injured-reserve

Expanded rosters

New CBA rule: Starting this season, game-day active rosters, which used to be limited to 46 players per team, can include up to 48 players, provided that at least eight of those 48 are offensive linemen. (If not, the game-day roster size is limited to 47 players.)

New CBA rule: Additionally, according to the new CBA, a team can carry up to 55 players on its roster during the week -- up from 53 in past years -- by elevating one or two players from its practice squad before 4 p.m. ET on the day before that team's game. This will allow teams a larger pool from which to select their 47 or 48 game-day active players. Any player elevated from the practice squad for this purpose will immediately revert to his team's practice squad on the day after the game.

[HardyBoy]

23 hours ago, Jobot said:

 

So you think it's pretty much coming down to who can add to the team this season opposed to losing your higher ceiling guy?

I guess I wouldn't go against that argument based on what I've perceived from this coaching staff.

It’s more I think they will design plays that fit the skill set of whoever is in there and I don’t think the 6th receiver on this team will  be used as a decoy. Also, Kumero isn’t even a wide receiver in their minds potentially. He could be a special teams specialist who also plays receiver well enough to get a set of plays game planned around him. A lot easier to set up some film for a defender to get super confident on a route and set him up for a counter in a super key spot with a guy playing 6 snaps a game vs 50 a game or whatever. 
 

I don’t know that Kumero isn’t a high ceiling guy either. His route running reminds me a bit of Stevie Johnson maybe. What I mean by that is he uses positioning extremely well to get in a box out position on his defender. The suddenness with which he attacks his cuts allows him to use his arms and his hip to initiate sneaky contact and basically boxes out his defender so he is a lot more open then it looks initially and he’s fast so he is open enough to catch and fall on the break, but also can separate if the route has another window in the next level. 

 

Stevenson for sure has a bunch of upside, as does Hodgins, but I think they will figure out ways to make sure both are on the initial roster to avoid going through waivers and then figure out a way to keep them. They don’t have the luxury at receiver to make decisions for this year only. Neither Sanders, Beasley or McKenzie are going to play out Allen’s contract, but those guys, and potentially even Kumero do, and shouldn’t be crazy expensive to resign. 
 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

11 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

How did the NFLPA agree to more games without more roster spots? There should be 3 more roster spots for every extra game added. 

 

In fact wasn't that part of the initial deal? How did we get extra games but not 55-56 man rosters? 

 

Fair question.  I think the NFLPA screwed the players on this one.  I wonder if they winced and bought in because of the lower cap, though?  Lower cap and more players = less funds per player?

 

To the topic, Buffalo Bills article on Kumerow:

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/definition-of-a-gamer-jake-kumerow-aims-to-lock-down-a-spot-on-the-bills-53-man-

 

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"The way that Coach Dabs (Daboll) has the offense drawn up, I like to be able to help them out in any way possible," Kumerow said. "Whether it's being an outside guy, an inside guy, being able to make blocks, being down the line of scrimmage making blocks, and also special teams. Being able to not only fit in on the offense but fit in there, be able to make plays and help us out give us good field position, and just be an all-around player so I love it here."

 

I will say from what I've seen, Kumerow can make blocks both downfield and down the LOS

[Jobot]

14 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

They don’t have the luxury at receiver to make decisions for this year only. Neither Sanders, Beasley or McKenzie are going to play out Allen’s contract, but those guys, and potentially even Kumero do, and shouldn’t be crazy expensive to resign. 

 

Good point here, didn't even think of that aspect. Did make me think, it'll hopefully be fun one day looking back at all maybe all the recievers that Josh Allen turns into pro-bowlers/hall of famers.

[GunnerBill]

On 8/25/2021 at 4:30 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

 

Anyway, there's your answer: he was with the Bills for a cup of coffee in mid to late May, and has been gone since.

 

Or is now employed in the players canteen making coffee? 😛

[Bob in STL]

I think we carry 7.  Factor in that we now know at least 3 WRs are unvaccinated, 7 helps mitigate a risk.  

[Eastport bills]

We better have depth at receiver because the 3 guys(Cole,Isaiah and Davis)will invariably have issues with suspension or Covid quarantining. These question marks, along with breakthrough cases leave a cloud over the position group.