PrimeTime101 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: One TE signs and now we have to settle for Knox? Didn’t you say, just minutes ago, that some players might want to play for a ring.... a minute ago the stock was not this high on TE lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: J Smith is too expensive. Doesn't look good for Hunter or Ertz now. Bummer because I wanted the Bills to get a veteran TE. Hope it doesn't price us out of a Rudolf/Everett/Howard type. My new hope is trade with Cleveland for K Hunt and Njoku. Just say "no" to Ertz. Edited March 15, 2021 by glazeduck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Do we settle for Hunter? We could still go after Gerald Everett or get a veteran like Richard Rodgers or Kyle Rudolph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: a minute ago the stock was not this high on TE lol so, because Jonnu gets overpaid, there aren’t any TEs willing to take less to try and win a ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, The Jokeman said: We could still go after Gerald Everett or get a veteran like Richard Rodgers or Kyle Rudolph. Guessing Everett is out of our price range too. Whether you think Jonnu's contract was a good deal or too much, he's getting it because of his athletic ability -- Everett will be very much the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: We could still go after Gerald Everett or get a veteran like Richard Rodgers or Kyle Rudolph. Or Jared cook Just now, glazeduck said: Guessing Everett is out of our price range too. Whether you think Jonnu's contract was a good deal or too much, he's getting it because of his athletic ability -- Everett will be very much the same. Jonnu is a MUCH better blocker though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, NewEra said: so, because Jonnu gets overpaid, there aren’t any TEs willing to take less to try and win a ring? I am just saying players may still come to us looking.. But at the price TE's Just went up some how I don't think we will be looking as hard. Things do change like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: yea at this price setting the market for TE.. I think its not in the conversation any more. we will settle with Knox. Just a gut feeling now Just because the most expensive TE signs with another team first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Just because the most expensive TE signs with another team first? Hunter Henry will get more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I don't know who needs to hear this...probably no one....but: The Bills were never, ever, ever going to pay $12.5M/Y for a tight end. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Just say "no" to Ertz. I certainly say "No" for the kind of money that was just introduced. But I think the Bills will be patient. Let the frenzy subside and some veteran TE might come down to a more reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (( I wanted Jonnu to Bills, but realise with such contract we can’t afford neither him nor Henry ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Just because the most expensive TE signs with another team first? I think when someone sets the market like this, things can change. NE overpaid to get a TE. Now the TE's that will be on the market will also see this and maybe take advantage of it. Now its a matter of, do we get Value at the position? do we have to or even want to over pay at a TE position? And as @NewEra Is also trying to say and remind me... it doesn't mean that a player may want to come here at the right price? I am not saying that either way.. What I am saying is its about value at the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 When you are a bad team you have to over pay. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Logic said: I don't know who needs to hear this...probably no one....but: The Bills were never, ever, ever going to pay $12.5M/Y for a tight end. never say never but I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I am thinking the Bills are more so looking at a Kroft replacement as opposed to a outright starting TE. The Pats paid retail for this guy and they seem to want to get back to being competitive in 2021 so they are paying big to fill needs. I am thinking Kyle Rudolph might be the type of supplemental player the Bills target. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: yea at this price setting the market for TE.. I think its not in the conversation any more. we will settle with Knox. Just a gut feeling now 5 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: I am just saying players may still come to us looking.. But at the price TE's Just went up some how I don't think we will be looking as hard. Things do change like that Ok. That makes more sense than “we will settle for knox.” That’s a a different stance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think when someone sets the market like this, things can change. NE overpaid to get a TE. Now the TE's that will be on the market will also see this and maybe take advantage of it. Now its a matter of, do we get Value at the position? do we have to or even want to over pay at a TE position? And as @NewEra Is also trying to say and remind me... it doesn't mean that a player may want to come here at the right price? I am not saying that either way.. What I am saying is its about value at the position. I understand that....just thought it was a little knee jerk. The tampering period starting 90 minutes ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I'm sticking with Dan Arnold is a realistic/affordable target who could really help the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Logic said: I don't know who needs to hear this...probably no one....but: The Bills were never, ever, ever going to pay $12.5M/Y for a tight end. I think $10M perhaps would be reasonable but $12.5M+? Absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, NewEra said: Ok. That makes more sense than “we will settle for knox.” That’s a a different stance. Some times my brain is moving ahead of what I am saying . I guess that's how my head is wired. but right now its Value issue 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I understand that....just thought it was a little knee jerk. The tampering period starting 90 minutes ago. perfect and yes it is/was knee jerk cause NE did a bone headed knee jerk reaction by over paying. now things are changed a bit. now its about value. things changed. but Id like to think/hope you understand me now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Logic said: I'm sticking with Dan Arnold is a realistic/affordable target who could really help the Bills. I really like Arnold too....I just don’t think he’s a fit opposite Knox. Arnold is one of the worst blockers there is at the position. I think he’s more of a knox replacement and it’s too early to replace him imo. I don’t think we’re in the market for a move TE, but rather a TE that can block and catch, but what do I know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: NE literally dominated the division with TEs for years. They make a huge difference in that offense. Nope - they made a huge difference for Brady - see TB. Unless they get a better QB from someplace - I do not think that offense with Cam is a passing offense and his blocking isn’t good enough to warrant this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Logic said: I don't know who needs to hear this...probably no one....but: The Bills were never, ever, ever going to pay $12.5M/Y for a tight end. Definitely not for someone with the paltry production of a Smith or even Henry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, NewEra said: Or Jared cook Jonnu is a MUCH better blocker though . Sure. But, 1. That's why he signed first. 2. That's why he'll get at least a little more money. 3. You're not paying Jonnu $50M to block. This is a copycat league and teams will pay for the next Waller/Kelce/Kittle chess piece. You know who's a great blocker as a TE? Lee Smith. You know who's not getting a 4 year/$50M contract? Lee Smith. 10 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: I certainly say "No" for the kind of money that was just introduced. But I think the Bills will be patient. Let the frenzy subside and some veteran TE might come down to a more reasonable price. I agree. That's why I've been saying Rudolph makes the most sense in my mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I like Jonnu Smith but that is quite a contract, I hope we go after Gerald Everett for much cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: I really like Arnold too....I just don’t think he’s a fit opposite Knox. Arnold is one of the worst blockers there is at the position. I think he’s more of a knox replacement and it’s too early to replace him imo. I don’t think we’re in the market for a move TE, but rather a TE that can block and catch, but what do I know? oh i whole heartedly dis.. oh wait ... AGREE! haha your 100% right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, glazeduck said: Sure. But, 1. That's why he signed first. 2. That's why he'll get at least a little more money. 3. You're not paying Jonnu $50M to block. This is a copycat league and teams will pay for the next Waller/Kelce/Kittle chess piece. You know who's a great blocker as a TE? Lee Smith. You know who's not getting a 4 year/$50M contract? Lee Smith. I agree. That's why I've been saying Rudolph makes the most sense in my mind... Copy cat league and the champs have a TE that is a MAULER in the run game. Not what you were insinuating, but it’s true. The Bucs had trouble early in the season when they were passing every play. Then they started running more 2TE sets and playing more of a short game is when their O caught stride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) Im sick of everyone giving the Pats the benefit of the doubt; This is a bone headed dollar amount and really questionable move. Smith is a solid 50 catch 10 TD kind of guy in the right system, but this is the most money the Pats have ever paid a skill position. Its the kind of money you give a 100 catch hall of fame type guy. Its crazy.... We should relish this floundering by a franchise. GL getting WRs to come w Cam as the QB plan. Edited March 15, 2021 by RichRiderBills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patzen Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Bad, desperate teams really ruin free agency for everyone else by overpaying for free agents early on. Good to see it's New England doing that now and not us lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 man hunter henry is gonna get 15 mil per i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Pats* overpaid. Sucks to be them. Hope it continues for the next ten years. You know, karma and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I mean theoretically he hasn't signed with anyone yet. They can't officially sign until the 17th at 4pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rc2catch Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Corey Davis opposite Diggs. Hey for once we agree on a player 👍👍👍 He’s got a lot of talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, gobills404 said: That’s encouraging. I don’t think Knox is as bad as some make him out to be. He could potentially breakout and be a star player. Definitely within the realms of possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Actually his 2020 numbers are not close to 12.5 a year good either. Unless he is as good as blocking as a mid-level lineman he might be the most overpaid player this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Corey Davis opposite Diggs. And a pass rusher? We need the pass rusher more imo. Restructure some deals and trade for Hunter. Gotta go for it i really like Davis....I just don’t know how much money we can put together and pass rush is necessary imo. Edited March 15, 2021 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I wanted him but not at this price. Good luck Jonnu. Not even close to worth $12 + mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLP Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Bill B. saw how much trouble Travis Kelce gave the Bills in the playoffs and has decided to get his own Top 3 TE. I think it's pretty smart on Bill. We better find a way to cover good TE's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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