Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, JGMcD2 said: It wasn’t clearly articulated... first you decided it was going to impede us from signing a pass rusher... and whined about that. Then you wanted to double up and decided it was going to impede us from signing an OL... and whined about that separately. You didn’t need two separate posts. No... a T is more valuable... G/C is not more valuable than LB. Good offensive line play is valuable... very rarely are the individual positions outside of LT... I’m not sure why you can’t figure that out... Tackles are part of the OL, is that correct? Who is whining? I’m posting an opinion on a bills message board, get over it you understood exactly my point you are just being an ass, enjoy the signing. I hope he proves the contract but I will continue to stand by my stance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Another one of those “I’m always right” guys... go get a job with a NFL team then... guys who are always right are a hot commodity. Funny he had to quote his own quote to say "trust me on this" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Cap hit is 11 million this year 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, BillsMafi$ said: Cap hit is 11 million this year Yuck if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Looking like about 7 million on the cap this year. 11 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Trust me on this one, too much and we could have upgraded the position with a couple million more. Milano would have not received an offer close to this on open market with the flood of players being released and low cap number of 183mll. I will be right again, just like when i said we should have drafted Metcalf or signing Murphy would be a total bust or our defense was not good enough to make to to the SUPER BOWL. End of the day we still don't have anyone to cover Kelce or other TE'S in this league which we were worse in the NFL at doing, paying Milano more is not changing the result of that. Right now we have one big play maker on defense and that is White, we needed to add at least one of two this offseason and that does not look like it will happen. show us on the doll where Milano touched you 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsMafi$ said: Cap hit is 11 million this year Those numbers look wrong. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: Signing still gets us NO WHERE close to beating the chiefs You still need Milano to help get you back in position to make a run. The Bills had to win 13 regular season games and beat the Colts and Ravens just to get to that point. Keeping key players that helped you do that doesn't hurt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 46 minutes ago, Virgil said: Just beat me to it. Beane is a Wizard!!!!!!!! Love this. Solid price tag. Well done Stop it, I was first but my phone was jammed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 So far this off season, I could almost be a tape loop saying "I Did Not See This Coming. I Did Not See This Coming." Exception would be cutting John Brown and Jefferson. I did see that coming. I did NOT see this coming. I thought he was gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: What is going on in my pants You are rising, my friend! 👍🍻😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 based on this, the cuts, and the restructuring, and an aggressive but controlled attempt at watt, it's pretty clear to me they are loading up the team for a chip in the 2021 season. some kind of better RB and TE production on O (interior OL being a big part of that IMO), and some beef up front and more pass rush on D gets us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jerboski said: We will see.... we saw this defense get shredded numerous times this year and clearly had issues sacking the qb and stopping the run, all of this with Milano I'm not telling you the Bills will have a solution to these problems you cite, but linebacker was in no case going to be the solution. Pressuring the QB in stopping the run are primarily front-four issues in this defense. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, BillsMafi$ said: 11 million I do not believe that is accurate. If I’m not mistaken, the 7 gets spread throughout the contract evenly and then added to the 5.3 for just over 7m this year. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, dorquemada said: show us on the doll where Milano touched you LMAO, he signed for less because he had no offers coming on open market that would have been better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Doesn't change anything. Bills still have 1 decent sized contract left and 1 medium. yup.And I'd expect either a DE or C2 with that $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: Signing still gets us NO WHERE close to beating the chiefs Chiefs just lost their entire OL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsMafi$ said: 11 million Spotrac is often wrong this early in the news cycle on a new signing. Looks like they calculated a $24M signing bonus, when what is being reported is a $7M signing bonus and $24M guaranteed over the life of the contract. Or the report of the $7M signing bonus is wrong, but that number seems more right than $24M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsMafi$ said: 11 million If his signing bonus is $7M, then it's amortized over 4 years as $1.25M/year. Those details are incompatible with the information Sal C provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, whatdrought said: I do not believe that is accurate. If I’m not mistaken, the 7 gets spread throughout the contract evenly and then added to the 5.3 for just over 7m this year. Unless Sal was wrong on the signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: 11 million I think this has his guaranteed money as his signing bonus. 4yr $44M deal and the lowest hit is $11.3M makes no sense. The signing bonus should be $7M total, instead of 24, so that $6M number each year should be $1.75M instead. His cap hit this year will be about $7M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Niagara Dude said: LMAO, he signed for less because he had no offers coming on open market that would have been better. Explain how that works.. free agency hasn’t started (open market) nor has the tampering period... are you saying with all your infinite wisdom that every team in the NFL egregiously tampers in free agency? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, The Jokeman said: Unless Sal was wrong on the signing bonus. Unlikely. $7M Signing Bonus makes more sense. Otherwise, a $24M signing bonus and $24M guaranteed... is more than the entire contract is supposed to be worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Milano's cap hit this year is only 5 million. So don't count out D.Williams. I think Mongo or D.Williams is out but I wouldn't be shocked to see them push hard for D.Williams. You don't want to have to rely on a rookie. I get that. But OT at 30 seems like a value pick this year. I wouldn't mind young bookends locked up for several years. jmo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, The Jokeman said: Unless Sal was wrong on the signing bonus. I mean, whatever picture that guy above is using as his source to claim everyone is wrong has a 50 million + contract if you add the totals. Imma guess he’s wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, whatdrought said: I mean, whatever picture that guy above is using as his source to claim everyone is wrong has a 50 million + contract if you add the totals. Imma guess he’s wrong. Spotrac is often wrong when a contract first hits. They clean it up as they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Nice! This was an unexpected surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Spotrac is often wrong this early in the news cycle on a new signing. Looks like they calculated a $24M signing bonus, when what is being reported is a $7M signing bonus and $24M guaranteed over the life of the contract. Or the report of the $7M signing bonus is wrong, but that number seems more right than $24M Thanks for being able to read and connect the dots... Some people man... some people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Spotrac is often wrong this early in the news cycle on a new signing. Looks like they calculated a $24M signing bonus, when what is being reported is a $7M signing bonus and $24M guaranteed over the life of the contract. Or the report of the $7M signing bonus is wrong, but that number seems more right than $24M The reported contract always seems more, initially, than the actual numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: 11 million It's not possible to have greater total cap then the total contact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, JGMcD2 said: Explain how that works.. free agency hasn’t started (open market) nor has the tampering period... are you saying with all your infinite wisdom that every team in the NFL egregiously tampers in free agency? His agent probably did makes some back door feelers as tampering occurs in all sports. So the offer is probably based off a rough estimate of his value. But still it has to be a deal he felt comfortable with and one the team liked too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, JaCrispy said: The reported contract always seems more, initially, than the actual numbers... Well, they got their numbers misplaced on this one regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 If this means there is no room for two big money LB, and the end is near for Edmunds(last year, don't pick up 5th year option), then I am happy with the signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I'm not telling you the Bills will have a solution to these problems you cite, but linebacker was in no case going to be the solution. Pressuring the QB in stopping the run are primarily front-four issues in this defense. I agree it isn’t going to solve the issue so that’s why I question spending 11M a year on a guy who doesn’t impact those issues when this free agency class has a lot of pass rushers and possible OL who could help Milano is a good dude and good player but again committing 11M a year to a player not playing a high value position can be questioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: Cap hit is 11 million this year How does a $44mil contract have $55 mil in cap hit over the course of the contract? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 We could have signed London Fletcher for less 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: What is going on in my pants You starting a circus or something there bud? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Thanks for being able to read and connect the dots... Some people man... some people Some people what?? Just because some question if this amount money for this type of linebacker makes the most sense, my question is why aren’t you asking the same question did you not watch this defense for the majority of the season or in two games against the chiefs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I guess I'm ok with this. Mid-season I posted it would be better to keep Milano than Edmunds so I won't back track too much. It's an ok move but does nothing to solve the pass rush issues. It eats up a little cap space but is one less hole to fill in the draft. I'd still want Williams back over Milano but the dollar figure for Milano is not too bad. Just difficult to get too excited knowing that they need to get better not stay status quo on defense. But I also know they have FA and the draft to get better so I am willing to take a wait and see approach. Beane at least did the right thing with Butler and Jefferson. Now I say cut Addison, sign Thuney and draft OT and 4 front 7 defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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