Logic Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Between 2009 and 2016, 22 quarterbacks were drafted in the first round. ZERO of them remain with the team that drafted them. Zero. The draft is a crapshoot. Glad we seem to have gotten it right with Allen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I think Wentz sucks personally. Can't read a def. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Wentz must be incredibly happy, by this standard Darnold is not fetching a first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Plus I think Frank can improve on Wentz numbers. Yea Frank will squeeze what he can from Carson. Besides with that OL he'll have tons of time to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Meh move for the Colts unless frank has some magic left to rejuvenate Carson. They need to add some WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Logic said: Between 2009 and 2016, 22 quarterbacks were drafted in the first round. ZERO of them remain with the team that drafted them. Zero. The draft is a crapshoot. Glad we seem to have gotten it right with Allen. That is a shocking statistic really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Too much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, RiotAct said: good trade for the Colts. They didn’t give up much. I'm not sure they got much either... Wentz is a basket case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Don Otreply said: Wentz must be incredibly happy, by this standard Darnold is not fetching a first... Darnold is on a rookie contract, where Wentz carries a 25M cap hit. The compensation isnt based solely on perceived talent. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Not exactly a ringing endorsement from the Colts if that’s all they were willing to give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) good trade for Colts, they gave a modest return, they have the cap to fit and the Reich and Wentz combo seems comfortable and productive. Colts have a better O-LINE and overall O so it makes a lot of sense plus Philly got him out of the NFC away from the Bears who needed to overpay to get Wentz and likely passed on the deal. Eagles still hit with a 33M dead cap in 2021 and maybe some more in 2022...they are still in cap jail.. Reich and Wentz sounds like a German Law Firm... Edited February 18, 2021 by First Round Bust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Too much So expect Wentz to start no matter how bad it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Don Otreply said: Wentz must be incredibly happy, by this standard Darnold is not fetching a first... I disagree. Darnold doesn't carry that huge contract with him. I could easily see a team like the Broncos (assuming they can't pry Watson away) effectively trading down in the 1st round to give the Jets something like the 25th to 32nd overall for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I think Wentz sucks personally. Can't read a def. He was literally the worst starting QB in the league last year. I think the Colts got fleeced, but Reich must think he can turn him around... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Darnold is on a rookie contract, where Wentz carries a 25M cap hit. The compensation isnt based solely on perceived talent. Even when considering the Gase factor, Sam at present is closer to being some other teams back up than being their starter, jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: So expect Wentz to start no matter how bad it gets. Unless he gets hurt (likely based on history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 great move by the colts, that Oline and that defense. That get another WR threat and they are legit AFC contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Logic said: Between 2009 and 2016, 22 quarterbacks were drafted in the first round. ZERO of them remain with the team that drafted them. Zero. The draft is a crapshoot. Glad we seem to have gotten it right with Allen. Amazing. I think in retrospect those will be viewed as the years of the great QB drought. Colt McCoy is the only QB taken in the 2010 draft who is still playing, and barely at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 For those wondering why Indy had to give up so little look no further than the contract they have to inherit with Wentz. He signed an extension that kicks in this year for $128 million, with $70 million guaranteed. He will count 35 million this year against Indy’s cap. That could really handcuff them if he blows up in their faces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 34 minutes ago, FireChans said: Lol that’s nothing. I think Wentz could be toast, but is there a third round pick QB that has a better chance of being good? I don’t think so. It also includes a 2nd next year that turns Into a first of We to plays 75% of the snaps next year. So it’s more than just a 3rd and that’s a pretty good return considering how bad the risks are with his contract and injury history, not to mention how poorly he’s played pretty much every game since he got hurt during his one good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Unless he gets hurt (likely based on history) For a chance at a 1st, you might see Irsay push him out onto the field in a wheelchair if thats what it takes. Nevermind, Im an idiot and had that backwards. Edited February 18, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, ChevyVanMiller said: For those wondering why Indy had to give up so little look no further than the contract they have to inherit with Wentz. He signed an extension that kicks in this year for $128 million, with $70 million guaranteed. He will count 35 million this year against Indy’s cap. That could really handcuff them if he blows up in their faces. Yeah, it's a gamble. They can, as I understand the contract, walk away after this year with a $24 million dead cap hit, which would put them in a big hole for 2022, after which they'd be back in business but with a lot of other big contracts coming due. So Reich had better hope that he can turn Wentz around or he's probably looking for a new job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: It also includes a 2nd next year that turns Into a first of We to plays 75% of the snaps next year. So it’s more than just a 3rd and that’s a pretty good return considering how bad the risks are with his contract and injury history, not to mention how poorly he’s played pretty much every game since he got hurt during his one good season. I doubt they let him play that much if he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Well there it is. Colts ready to roll. Comeback Player of the Year for 2021 - Carson Wentz and probably a AFC Championship loss to Kansas City Chiefs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Carson went to the Colts. Carson has gone to the Colts. * 'Wentz' is not good grammar, even if you think it's 'fly'. 🧐 Wow knowing some outdated grammatical nitpick really shows how much smarter you are then every one else. IQ and grammar are absolutely identical! 🙄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Good. One less team the Bills have to worry about. Wentz blows. Was never worried about the Colts. We already handled them in the playoffs, and they werent going to find a QB better than Rivers this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: For a chance at a 1st, you might see Irsay push him out onto the field in a wheelchair if thats what it takes. Well, Eagles are the ones who get the 1st. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Colts have a really good o line and a ton of cap space. If they get him a Top WR or two in FA I can see him being pretty good again. I don't think he'll ever be a top QB. Edited February 18, 2021 by Process 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Amazing. I think in retrospect those will be viewed as the years of the great QB drought. Colt McCoy is the only QB taken in the 2010 draft who is still playing, and barely at that. Yeah between the arrival of Brady, Mannings, Big Ben, and Rodgers and the recent influx there has been what 1 additional franchise QB in Russel Wilson. It does seem we're finally getting a new influx just as the last one is fading away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Good. Trading a 3rd rd pick for a qb that has great upside and a contract they can cut after next season isn’t a reach. I think it’s actually good value considering Reich is the one guy that might be able to turn him around. luckily for us, If wentz doesn’t completely reinvent himself, the colts should be out of the picture in 2021. A season in which they could’ve made some waves imo. When they cut him after next year, maybe he can become the backup to 17 Edited February 18, 2021 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Process said: Colts have a really good o line and a ton of cap space. If they get him a Top WR or two in FA I can see him being pretty good again, and for them to be SB contenders. Colts are ready to roll. Competent QB play and in Bills Wild Card Game and they would have post 40+ on Bills Defense that day. They are ready to give KC a run. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well, Eagles are the ones who get the 1st. Oh duh, my bad. Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Eh. I thought if they traded for Darnold there was a chance he could develop nicely there and they’d be a really good team and possible SB contender..... I don’t see it with Wentz. Still think they’ll be a good team but I don’t think he’s any good. I can agree there. I dont think Darnold is completely finished or beyond repair either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Well there it is. Colts ready to roll. Comeback Player of the Year for 2021 - Carson Wentz and probably a AFC Championship loss to Kansas City Chiefs. Let’s put some money on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Was never worried about the Colts. We already handled them in the playoffs, and they werent going to find a QB better than Rivers this year. Handled is a poor choice of words imo. We scraped that game out. Their offense had their way with our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Well there it is. Colts ready to roll. Comeback Player of the Year for 2021 - Carson Wentz and probably a AFC Championship loss to Kansas City Chiefs. Nah... Colts could have beat the Bills in the wildcard game with a better QB taking them down the field on that last drive.. Thankfully Wentz is not that better QB... Good move for the Bills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Pretty small return for the Eagles. A 2021 3rd a 2022 2nd that could become a first Phenomenal trade for Eagles assuming that they get to dump Wentz' contract. Can the Sabres trade Skinner to the Colts? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Based on how Wentz liked Alshon Jeffery in Philly, watch out for Michael Pittman Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Colts are ready to roll. Competent QB play and in Bills Wild Card Game and they would have post 40+ on Bills Defense that day. They are ready to give KC a run. I agree. If they add a top WR and wentz ends up being good, they are ready to win a superbowl now. Colts-Bills-chiefs- browns are all damn good teams. Next year should be fun. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: I can agree there. I dont think Darnold is completely finished or beyond repair either. I don't believe in either of them, but I'd take Darnold over Wentz in a heartbeat, especially with that contract...Wentz is a mess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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