Clyde Smith Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Travis Etienne, Patterson or Harris...Or Whoever Beane brings in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Was a huge drop. He might have gotten 20 yards on that if he catches it. But we probably would have just kicked a field goal!!! 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, r henderson said: Major disappointment! A new topic was needed for his play this year. Can someone name one game where he has made a difference? Until we can establish some signs of a running game, it will be tough sledding in the big games. I mean how did henry do in the big games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 947 said: Singletary is a great guy, just not good enough to get significant snaps in the NFL. He doesn't have NFL speed, and he tries to use his 1 great attribute (moves) too much instead of blasting into holes. Â I think Moss would've helped today, but we need a major upgrade. Upgrade again for the 3rd time while our best RB sits on the practice squad again next season or isn't even on the team. Â Yup, thats whats going to happen. Â Â Edited January 25, 2021 by Figster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Figster said: Upgrade again for the 3rd time while our best RB sits on the practice squad again next season or isn't even on the team.  Yup, thats whats going to happen.   Crazy how good Yeldon looks out there. We do need top 5 receiving RB IMO. It makes it so much easier for Josh and the O. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, racketmaster said: Scat back, that is what he is. Losing Moss was huge as the Bills did not trust a replacement rb to run hard in between the tackles. Not even that, too slow and i hope that is the last we see of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Real McNasty said: Crazy how good Yeldon looks out there. We do need top 5 receiving RB IMO. It makes it so much easier for Josh and the O. Yeldon is basically another big WR coming out of the back field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Figster said: Yeldon is basically another big WR coming out of the back field. Sucks we shelved him so long. He still only 27 and has some really good hands. Even when he was running I had more confidence. I think Yeldon is the best RB on our team in all honesty.  Gawd, I so wish we could have the 2015-2017 McCoy for Allen. We need to upgrade, Beane knew that as well and I'm glad Bell didn't work out as I think he is washed. I would love to see a great receiving back like Ekeler though.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Our line is built for pass blocking.  Singletary has a place but it is a tight fit.  They could use a dynamic, quick pass catching guy back there.  Alvin Kamara doesn’t grow on trees. Edited January 25, 2021 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 That drop changed the momentum of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Singletary stinks.....plain and simple....all season long....RB are a dime a dozen...you dont keep the crappy one's around...ok sure we apparently loss on a draft pick here we thought would be good but apparently this guy is a bust...cut loss and move on asap......Keep Moss...bring up Antonio Williams and maybe pick up Ingram if possible...oh yeah fix the damn D!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, r henderson said: Major disappointment! A new topic was needed for his play this year. Can someone name one game where he has made a difference? Until we can establish some signs of a running game, it will be tough sledding in the big games. Worst part is he was much better than Zack Moss. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I’ll never get over that drop by Singletary, what a killer. TJ Yeldon fumbled one time and got benched for two years, what a waste, he’s reliable with his hands which is what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Travis Etienne, Patterson or Harris...Or Whoever Beane brings in. Love Etienne... not sure if burning a #1 on a RB is the smartest move though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, JPP said: Singletary stinks.....plain and simple....all season long....RB are a dime a dozen...you dont keep the crappy one's around...ok sure we apparently loss on a draft pick here we thought would be good but apparently this guy is a bust...cut loss and move on asap......Keep Moss...bring up Antonio Williams and maybe pick up Ingram if possible...oh yeah fix the damn D!!!! Keep moss, find speed at RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, Baba Booey said: Was a huge drop. He might have gotten 20 yards on that if he catches it. But we probably would have just kicked a field goal!!! 🤔 Oh trust me he gets 20 on that play. There was no one in front of him. It's not that drop that fries my ass. It's his slow "shimie every time he gets the ball. He's completely incapable of attacking a hole. He has to be upgraded. And on a final note Yeldon was so poorly used all year. Daboll basically gave up on any running game. Tonight it destroyed us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 He just isn't special. He had 4 more carries this year than last. For the most part. He is the same guy. He was a product of inflated ypc based on low carry count and a few broken plays. He isn't consistent and should be a change of pace not a feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) I haven't gathered a consensus of how draftniks have the Running Backs ranked. But I'm hoping that since it's such a deep class that we can keep Jarrett Patterson in Buffalo with a Day 3 pick. Edited January 25, 2021 by BillsFanForever19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, gridirongold said: why yeldon? he looks lost . im sure KC is looking out for 22 5ypc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Travis Ettienne at 30, please... 2 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: I don't care that we spent two 3rd rders, this backfield is not cutting it. A running game would make us exponentially stronger. Who's out there for FAs next year? 3rd and 2 is scarier tham 3rd and 7 with this team. Its gotta stop. Id rather they go get a premier guy, and be done with the position while our window is still open The problem is they keep getting the same person. Short grinder with low speed. There is no change of pace there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Saying this from a Denver-based perspective - Bills Mafia would love Phillip Lindsay after about the first 5 minutes of his first camp practice. Ran a 4.39 40 and I imagine just about any Bronco is available right now. Has the speed that this team needs and is a total hardworking McBeane process guy.  Been in Singletary's corner all year, but it's just not working out. He has his moments but he's never going to get 20 carries and this team clearly needs some more speed at RB. Singletary kind of feels like a giant incomplete rather than a failure to me, but I think it's clear that you need to do something next year, he can't be anything more than a depth back. Edited January 25, 2021 by Nelius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: Travis Ettienne at 30, please... I wouldn’t be opposed to this, everyone thinks you can get an RB anywhere because of undrafted guys like James Robinson but the majority of good RBs are taken in the first two rounds of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Singletary must improve his game in 2021. But let’s not blame him on the loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, CapeBreton said: I wouldn’t be opposed to this, everyone thinks you can get an RB anywhere because of undrafted guys like James Robinson but the majority of good RBs are taken in the first two rounds of the draft.  You can get a RB anywhere, you're just not guaranteed to. Ettienne adds more than just speed, he's a deadly weapon in the passing game in the area that Josh struggles the most, taking the quick check down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Eastport bills said: He's soft, and has lost confidence. We can't go into another year with him as a lead back. He can't break tackles and doesn't distinguish himself in the passing game. We need to draft a runner. He wasn't the lead back at the end of the season. Well, moss seemed to usurp him. I would honestly play yeldon over him. He's a situation back. He makes us 1 dimensional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Travis Ettienne at 30, please...  CJ Spiller 2.0?  No thanks.  Najee Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: McCoy in his prime or Lynch in his prime on this team would be an elite offense.. right now this offense just isn't dynamic enough to shoot it out with KC Kamara would solve our RB issues. Then heavy OL DL in draft  we are not doing the best in the trenches,,, especially defense Too light in the butt... by design. McD likes this d line. Save for star this was his thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Travis Ettienne at 30, please... Terrible use of a first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: I'd cut him Immediately. He's the definition of mediocre. Keep Moss and draft another. The coaches should apologize to Yeldon. Love this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: I wouldn’t be opposed to this, everyone thinks you can get an RB anywhere because of undrafted guys like James Robinson but the majority of good RBs are taken in the first two rounds of the draft. 1st round is bad value. Second is okay.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, Figster said: Yeldon is basically another big WR coming out of the back field. I feel like he is good enough IF he holds the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: 1st round is bad value. Second is okay. Â Â Â End of the 1st round is not that different in value from the 2nd round. As usual there are going to be less than 30 players with 1st round grades, and this year more than ever it is going to be difficult to draft due to limited college games plus no combine or private visits. I am usually completely against the idea of the Bills drafting a RB early but it is the last piece our offense needs and it's an easy position to scout. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, HappyDays said: Â End of the 1st round is not that different in value from the 2nd round. As usual there are going to be less than 30 players with 1st round grades, and this year more than ever it is going to be difficult to draft due to limited college games plus no combine or private visits. I am usually completely against the idea of the Bills drafting a RB early but it is the last piece our offense needs and it's an easy position to scout. We need a TE way more imo, and TE is way slimmer pickings than RB pretty much every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: T.J. Yeldon has looked worlds better. Makes me wonder what we could have been if we rolled with him and Moss instead all season.  TJ should of dressed in more games and got a better look. I know they wanted to have Taiwan Jones in for STs but it might have been better if they didn't.  All things McDermott and Beane need to discuss in the next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: He's made a difference in several games, along with Moss. Running the clock down at the end of several games, getting several important first downs, making some nice catches and runs and doing an absolute ton of terrific blocks keeping our QB unsacked. And a couple of TDs on top of that.  These are objective, fair points, esp amidst all this anguish.  I'm a big Motor fan, but it's also fair to address the OP's "question", which I take to mean "disappointed w his season?"  Imv, the only balanced answer is "yes". Clear improvement in pass pro, but no further/consistent development in speed and explosiveness, nor in route running. You know, fear inducing skills.  I mean how many wheel routes or delayed goes did he have? I don't think many, and that was a scheme decision, so I assume coaches didn't see it in him.  As for this game, I'll only note that Duke (I'm not a fan) got roasted for dropped balls v Texans, and they were contested. Motor's dropped screen (albeit not in end zone) was a costly mistake.  Ready to dump him? No. But, again as a fan, it's best we keep our eyes wide open. Edited January 25, 2021 by Dukestreetking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: We need a TE way more imo, and TE is way slimmer pickings than RB pretty much every year.  1st round TEs have a terrible history. I know teams that draft RBs in the 1st don't tend to win a Super Bowl with them but at least they are good players more often than not. I also think Knox played well down the stretch and Daboll just doesn't know how to get him involved outside of misdirection plays. I wouldn't trust him to utilize a TE if we drafted one. You can tell he wants RBs to be a big part of this offense, we just don't have a player to make it work. Edited January 25, 2021 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, HappyDays said:  1st round TEs have a terrible history. I know teams that draft RBs in the 1st don't tend to win a Super Bowl with them but at least they are good players more often than not. I also think Knox played well down the stretch and Daboll just doesn't know how to get him involved outside of misdirection plays. I wouldn't trust him to utilize a TE if we drafted one. You can tell he wants RBs to be a big part of this offense, we just don't have a player to make it work. Knox is simply not consistent enough to be a focal point of our offense. A TE that lives in the seam and the soft hook/curl is money.  Maybe there isn't a TE at #30 worth it. But I'd reach for a TE before I'd reach for an RB. CEH was yanked for an UDFA tonight. That pick was a waste by KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Eastport bills said: He's soft, and has lost confidence. We can't go into another year with him as a lead back. He can't break tackles and doesn't distinguish himself in the passing game. We need to draft a runner. It’s unfortunate because we’ve used two high draft picks on RBs in the past two drafts and we have nothing to show for it—and it’s an easy position to scout and draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, FireChans said: I'd reach for a TE before I'd reach for an RB. CEH was yanked for an UDFA tonight. That pick was a waste by KC.  And I'm not saying I will be mad if the Bills don't draft a RB early this year, but to keep up with KC they need to make this offense even better next year and that is one way to do it. No need to wait for a rookie WR or TE to adjust to the pro game. Get a RB that has speed and can catch the ball and plug him in.  The Chiefs don't need to use RBs in their pass game because they have an elite WR and TE. We aren't going to pull another elite offensive player out of a hat. We need to try a different strategy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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