Chargers to Hire Brandon Staley as HC (not Daboll)

[BuffaloRebound]

I could see Tampa Bay job opening up.  Arians does not look good physically.  Wouldn’t be shocking if he retires for health reasons.  

[Back2Buff]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It would be tough to turn down any HC job if it’s offered imo. You never know what will happen between now and next year. He may be in a good place to be picky/patient, but if you wait for the perfect situation you nay be waiting awhile. There’s a reason these jobs are open. 

 

There is an argument to be made that it's better to be a coordinator on a great team, than a HC on a crap team.

 

I hear Daboll's more in the national media than I do Zac Taylor's name.  Daboll will get a huge raise this year and is in charge of the entire offense.  

 

Turning down a HC job isn't that big of a deal, if you are going to end up fired in 2 years anyways.

[H2o]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It would be tough to turn down any HC job if it’s offered imo. You never know what will happen between now and next year. He may be in a good place to be picky/patient, but if you wait for the perfect situation you nay be waiting awhile. There’s a reason these jobs are open. 

I mean, you could go somewhere and try to be the savior if that's what you really want to do. In either of those cases I think it would be the wrong move. Unless Eric Bienemy is hired in Houston I think Watson is out and Bienemy can decline any job to stay in KC. What do you do then? Miami already owns your #3 pick in the draft and that team is completely devoid of talent on offense outside of Watson. I mean they have nothing. Defensively they have a couple of aging stars in Mercilus and Watt. That's it. That team will dwell in the cellar for years to come once they deal Watson, if and more likely when Watson forces their hand. Philly has a complete crap show at QB due to the fact that you have a horrible, inescapable contract with Wentz and Jalen Hurts. Hurts may be capable of being their new Donovan McNabb, but the cap hell they are in is deep right now. They too have a bunch of aging, overpriced players on both sides of the ball and look likely to be headed for a full blown rebuild. Do you really want to go into something like that as your first HC gig? Idk, it's up to the individual. But if I were our guys I stay put on a team positioned for success not only this year, but beyond until something with better pieces (draft and player wise) opens up. 

[Nihilarian]

10 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Lol the chargers saw the play call balance last night and were out

So true, and last week too. Balance is the right word. 

 

The guy coached / game planned himself out of a head coaching job IMO. 

 

Look at the offensive numbers for the Bills against the Colts, Ravens and not good at all. Out gained in yards, ToP, and with literally no run game.

 

This reminds me of last years Dallas Cowboys game on Thanksgiving with Carolina after that Cowboy trouncing saying they were interested in Daboll as HC... the following week the Bills faced the Ravens, Allen 6 sacks, 12 QB hits and no answer for that pass rush and suddenly nobody is interested in Dabs as HC anymore.

 

Here is a OC that all he wants to do is have his QB throw to show how good he is at calling pass plays. NVM that first season (2018) the Bills had a horrid O line while Dabs call for more deep passes than any other NFL team. NVM last years Ravens game Josh Allen was abused every drop back, lets keep throwing 39 passes! NVM that the wind conditions were conducive to running the ball this last game...37 passes. 

 

The Bills needed a run game in the worst way yesterday and was nowhere to be found.

 

Looking at his history, I'm kinda hoping he takes the Eagles or Texans job... if offered. 

[mjt328]

The NFL's rules about hiring coaches still in the playoffs was likely a huge factor.

Teams realize there are multiple job openings, and they can't just sit around waiting for weeks and weeks to choose their next Head Coach.  Otherwise they will end up with the scraps.

 

I'm sure the Chargers really liked Brian Daboll.  But they couldn't offer him the job until the Bills were out of the playoffs.  Which means they would need to wait at least another week, and possibly another three.  And there is no guarantee he would even decide to take the job.

 

 

 

I believe it's the same reason Eric Bieniemy was not hired last year.

 

[T master]

I was relieved when i saw that last night the Bills still aren't out of the woods all the HC positions aren't filled yet but 1 less to worry about 🙌 .

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

There is an argument to be made that it's better to be a coordinator on a great team, than a HC on a crap team.

 

I hear Daboll's more in the national media than I do Zac Taylor's name.  Daboll will get a huge raise this year and is in charge of the entire offense.  

 

Turning down a HC job isn't that big of a deal, if you are going to end up fired in 2 years anyways.

 

And if you have an elite QB, Daboll does, the chances of your window closing this year are slim. I think defensive guys generally have to strike while the iron is hot because keeping an elite D that keeps you in the window through 3 or 4 hiring cycles is difficult. I think of guys like Teryl Austin and Ray Horton who were hot for a couple of years, didn't get a job then disappeared from view. 

[Punching Bag]

38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They were doing other interviews the whole time. Schefter just said he had “emerged as a favorite”. There was nothing substantial behind it. 

 

How much substance does a shadow of a shadow have?

23 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

There is an argument to be made that it's better to be a coordinator on a great team, than a HC on a crap team.

 

I hear Daboll's more in the national media than I do Zac Taylor's name.  Daboll will get a huge raise this year and is in charge of the entire offense.  

 

Turning down a HC job isn't that big of a deal, if you are going to end up fired in 2 years anyways.

 

It depends if they give you a 10 year, 10 million a year contract.

[Nihilarian]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Hard to root against one of your own’s career advancement.  But I don’t think you can under-estimate how bad the play-calling was on Saturday night.  There was little to no adjustment to the wind conditions or how the game was playing out.  That performance should’ve given anybody cold feet about Daboll.  Let’s hope he finds his mojo on Sunday.  

I agree and I agree.

 

I don't get how an offense can put up 56 points on one of the better defenses in the league and then choke up on a mid pack defense...

 

The Bills NEED a run game to go along with that awesome passing attack with Allen. Balance, look at the Packers. 

 

The 2020 Buffalo Bills are 20th in rushing yards, 20th in yards per attempt. That's with QB Josh Allen being the teams third leading rusher with 421 yards, 8 rushing TDs. Moss has 481 rush yards, 4 TDs. Singletary has 687 yards, 2 TDs. 

[dayman]

Sorry if discused elsewhere already but i saw a few teams hired already including the Chargers...does it now look like he stays another year?

[Southern_Bills]

I would think it's trending that direction, I would think he would prefer stay here than enter into a bad situation. 

 

IMO the eagles and texans are going to be a hard sell to some candidates. 

[HOUSE]

He is stuck in Buffalo where the fans will fire him almost every week

[Buffalo Barbarian]

After winning the Superbowl he stays here.

 

 

[JoshAllenReceipts]

Absolutely nowhere.

 

And he never was going anywhere to begin with.

 

All fake reports fabricated by the Josh Allen hating media.

 

Nobody in the NFL thinks highly of Daboll. NOBODY

 

Brian Daboll is nothing more than a pure media creation.

 

Brian Daboll is 1000% a byproduct of Josh Allen.

 

Josh Allen IS the system in Buffalo...and Daboll is just along for the ride.

[dorquemada]

Chargers were the obvious landing spot - you have to wonder if he would want to take on the messes in Philly or Houston.  I completely understand the idea of wanting that promotion and joining that elite fraternity of HC's in the NFL, but have to weigh that against the wife and kids and being 'home'.  I took a job at another company to get a level promotion, and almost immediately regretted it, and was back a year later. 

[Rc2catch]

1 minute ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

Absolutely nowhere.

 

And he never was going anywhere to begin with.

 

All fake reports fabricated by the Josh Allen hating media.

 

Nobody in the NFL thinks highly of Daboll. NOBODY

 

Brian Daboll is nothing more than a pure media creation.

 

Brian Daboll is 1000% a byproduct of Josh Allen.

 

Josh Allen IS the system in Buffalo...and Daboll is just along for the ride.

When we got new reactions I was curious when the eye roll would come in handy. 
 

Thank you. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I think he'll stay. Another strong year and he's probably someone teams will want to wait for the Bills season to end. 

Edited January 18, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Paul Costa]

He would be the #1 guy next year. And there will be good jobs next year too. McDermott got the bills job a year after the panthers SB appearance. Same with the jets coach this year. Daboll will be involved with any job he wants next year. Off the top of my head the Cowboys, Bears, Broncos all are good jobs. And who knows what might happen with the Patriots. If the Bills win the SB in the next couple of years Daboll can get that job. Not that I want him too. I don’t think it’s a guarantee that  McDaniels gets that job. He failed miserably once and had to come running home to daddy. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

16 minutes ago, dayman said:

Sorry if discused elsewhere already but i saw a few teams hired already including the Chargers...does it now look like he stays another year?

 

The remaining jobs at this point are the Eagles and the Texans.

 

If I were an OC looking for my best shot as HC, neither situation would appeal to me right now.

 

Nick Caserio must have a relationship with Brian Daboll from their time working in NE.  Whether that's a good relationship, or a bad relationship, can't tell you.  But I personally wouldn't want to relocate to a franchise where there seems to be a Machiavelli in Easterby pulling strings behind the scenes to get the GM (Gaines) fired promptly, the team's star WR traded for a bag of donuts and a used hotdog, and the team's Franchise QB pissed off and said to be wanting a trade.  It just seems like a toxic mess where the command-and-control to work cohesively and turn things around aren't clear.

 

Then there's the Eagles and their financially-committed relationship to a QB who has regressed badly

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/thoughts-report-detailing-carson-wentzs-uncoachable-unaccountable-behavior

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/carson-wentz-eagles-regression-doug-pederson-press-taylor-howie-roseman-20210116.html

 

 

[JohnC]

It won't be surprising if Frazier gets the job in Houston in order to resolve the conflict between Watson and the organization. This was an organization that allowed the ego of the former combustible to take a team that was coming into its own and crash it with a number of foolish and odd decisions. When factions within an organization are working at cross purposes and wasting energy for in-fighting and management intrigue that is a toxic recipe for failure.  

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

So true, and last week too. Balance is the right word. 

 

The guy coached / game planned himself out of a head coaching job IMO. 

 

Look at the offensive numbers for the Bills against the Colts, Ravens and not good at all. Out gained in yards, ToP, and with literally no run game.

 

This reminds me of last years Dallas Cowboys game on Thanksgiving with Carolina after that Cowboy trouncing saying they were interested in Daboll as HC... the following week the Bills faced the Ravens, Allen 6 sacks, 12 QB hits and no answer for that pass rush and suddenly nobody is interested in Dabs as HC anymore.

 

Here is a OC that all he wants to do is have his QB throw to show how good he is at calling pass plays. NVM that first season (2018) the Bills had a horrid O line while Dabs call for more deep passes than any other NFL team. NVM last years Ravens game Josh Allen was abused every drop back, lets keep throwing 39 passes! NVM that the wind conditions were conducive to running the ball this last game...37 passes. 

 

The Bills needed a run game in the worst way yesterday and was nowhere to be found.

 

Looking at his history, I'm kinda hoping he takes the Eagles or Texans job... if offered. 

I get what your saying and I feel the same but in a different way. I agree is we keep  passing nonstop and never run the ball, our season likely end the season with an L.

 

fixing the run game would be my #1 priority in the offseason.  That’s said....it’s nearly impossible for them to fix the run game mid playoffs and I don’t expect them to try.  Not running has been working.  It might not be sustainable....but running for 3 yards a carry isn’t sustainable either. 
 

It’s an offseason fix that is instilled in the teams offensive identity im during training camp, not the playoffs. 

[JoshAllenReceipts]

11 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

When we got new reactions I was curious when the eye roll would come in handy. 
 

Thank you. 

 

You are submissive to the Josh Allen hating media. They feed you propaganda; you buy into it all. There is a sucker born every minute. You are gullible, naive, and easily brainwashed.

 

Way to support your transcendent QB and have his back.

 

Remain clueless and ignorant.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

I agree and I agree.

 

I don't get how an offense can put up 56 points on one of the better defenses in the league and then choke up on a mid pack defense...

 

The Bills NEED a run game to go along with that awesome passing attack with Allen. Balance, look at the Packers. 

 

The 2020 Buffalo Bills are 20th in rushing yards, 20th in yards per attempt. That's with QB Josh Allen being the teams third leading rusher with 421 yards, 8 rushing TDs. Moss has 481 rush yards, 4 TDs. Singletary has 687 yards, 2 TDs. 

It’s called a good defensive game plan and execution.  

15 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

When we got new reactions I was curious when the eye roll would come in handy. 
 

Thank you. 

Eye roll and puke ftw

[Rc2catch]

5 minutes ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

 

You are submissive to the Josh Allen hating media. They feed you propaganda; you buy into it all. There is a sucker born every minute. You are gullible, naive, and easily brainwashed.

 

Way to support your transcendent QB and have his back.

 

Remain clueless and ignorant.

If I was a child I’m sure there’s a few things I could call you as well. Eye roll works really well. I will chalk this up to school being closed today and mom made you do chores instead of video games and you’re grumpy 

Edited January 18, 2021 by Rc2catch

[JoshAllenReceipts]

Just now, Rc2catch said:

If I was a child I’m sure there’s a few things I could call you as well. Eye roll works really well. 

 

 

Still don't get that you are allowing the media to control and brainwash you.

 

You don't realize this...but the joke is on you here. 

[Rc2catch]

1 minute ago, JoshAllenReceipts said:

 

 

Still don't get that you are allowing the media to control and brainwash you.

 

You don't realize this...but the joke is on you here. 

[The Wiz]

Apparently NFL felt like changing the rules for coaching interviews.  Probably a little too late for Daboll now.

 

 

[Man with No Name]

Houston's problem is that Cal McNair is Ralph Wilson, Al Davis, James Dolan, etc. He needs to fire easterby. Let Caserio run the franchise. and get the hell out of the way. 

[JGMcD2]

2 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

 

I don't get how an offense can put up 56 points on one of the better defenses in the league and then choke up on a mid pack defense...

What middle of the pack defense did we choke up on?? 

[Max Fischer]

13 hours ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

You feel sad for guy, running a top 5 offense for his hometown team? Ok then. 

 

I feel sad that you feel nothing for the someone who has helped lead the Bills to the AFC Championship and may lose out on his dream to be a head coach. Instead, too many people have demonstrated little class by celebrating Daboll's misfortune. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[JGMcD2]

Looks like our staff will remain intact for another run at it all next year. This won’t happen often with sustained success, but it’s nice when it does! 
 

Continuity for Josh next year will be huge in cementing himself as elite. 

[SectionC3]

I was pretty surprised about Staley last night, but now it makes a lot more sense.  Everyone thought the hire would be about Herbert.  It's actually about Mahomes, and it's kind of smart.  The best way to win the division is for Herbert to keep being Herbert, and for someone to crack the Mahomes code.  Staley might be able to improve the defense much more than Daboll (or anyone else) could improve Herbert and the offense.  So, having taken a step back . . . I get the hire.  

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Nihilarian]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

I get what your saying and I feel the same but in a different way. I agree is we keep  passing nonstop and never run the ball, our season likely end the season with an L.

 

fixing the run game would be my #1 priority in the offseason.  That’s said....it’s nearly impossible for them to fix the run game mid playoffs and I don’t expect them to try.  Not running has been working.  It might not be sustainable....but running for 3 yards a carry isn’t sustainable either. 
 

It’s an offseason fix that is instilled in the teams offensive identity im during training camp, not the playoffs. 

 

In order to get a run game going... you actually need to try to run the ball...with the RB's! 

 

The Bills didn't even call a run play the entire first quarter against the Ravens. One run by Singletary in the 2nd quarter!

 

The 3rd quarter first play, Singletary off LT for 9 yards, next play run by Singletary LG -1 yards, three passes later, Singletary LE 12 yards, 5 passes after. 

 

Buffalo, 16 rushes for 32 yards on an exceptionally windy day more conducive to running the ball. 

NOW, 7 of those 16 rushes were by Josh Allen for 3 yards. So the Bills ran the ball a whole 9 times by the RB's...

 

The Buffalo Bills offense scored 10 points. The Buffalo Bills defense scored 7 points. 

 

The last two games the Bills offense has been outplayed...The Ravens, 340 yards to Buffalo 220 yards. ToP Ravens 35:33. Bills 24:27. Yards per rush 4.7 to 2.0. Same with the Colts, 472 to 397, ToP 34:17 to 25:43. 

 

Buffalo was bailed out by the defense in holding the Ravens to 3 points. Baltimore previous scores, Titans 20, Bengals 38, Giants 27, Jags, 40, Browns 47, Cowboys 34.

 

Now, had Buffalo lost this game against the Ravens, Bills fans would be screaming for Daboll's head on a platter...That Allen fumble that the Bills recovered in both games against the Colts/ Ravens. That deep bomb that Tyler Huntly overthrew to Brown. The Colts hail-Mary that was knocked down.

Sometimes it's better to be lucky. Can't depend on that luck for future games... gotta work a run game too! Antonio Williams anyone?  

 

Just saying, Daboll was the favorite to get the Chargers HCing job and then they changed their minds after asking for a second interview...which never took place. Apparently, the Bills offense in the Ravens game might have been all they needed to see. 

 

On one side I'm glad for continuity as Allen and Diggs love the guy. On the other, I question the game plan, play calls on offense the last two games. Perhaps now that teams no longer have interest he can focus on doing a better job. 🙏

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

 

In order to get a run game going... you actually need to try to run the ball...with the RB's! 

 

The Bills didn't even call a run play the entire first quarter against the Ravens. One run by Singletary in the 2nd quarter!

 

The 3rd quarter first play, Singletary off LT for 9 yards, next play run by Singletary LG -1 yards, three passes later, Singletary LE 12 yards, 5 passes after. 

 

Buffalo, 16 rushes for 32 yards on an exceptionally windy day more conducive to running the ball. 

NOW, 7 of those 16 rushes were by Josh Allen for 3 yards. So the Bills ran the ball a whole 9 times by the RB's...

 

The Buffalo Bills offense scored 10 points. The Buffalo Bills defense scored 7 points. 

 

The last two games the Bills offense has been outplayed...The Ravens, 340 yards to Buffalo 220 yards. ToP Ravens 35:33. Bills 24:27. Yards per rush 4.7 to 2.0. Same with the Colts, 472 to 397, ToP 34:17 to 25:43. 

 

Buffalo was bailed out by the defense in holding the Ravens to 3 points. Baltimore previous scores, Titans 20, Bengals 38, Giants 27, Jags, 40, Browns 47, Cowboys 34.

 

Now, had Buffalo lost this game against the Ravens, Bills fans would be screaming for Daboll's head on a platter...That Allen fumble that the Bills recovered in both games against the Colts/ Ravens. That deep bomb that Tyler Huntly overthrew to Brown. The Colts hail-Mary that was knocked down.

Sometimes it's better to be lucky. Can't depend on that luck for future games... gotta work a run game too! Antonio Williams anyone?  

 

Just saying, Daboll was the favorite to get the Chargers HCing job and then they changed their minds after asking for a second interview...which never took place. Apparently, the Bills offense in the Ravens game might have been all they needed to see. 

 

On one side I'm glad for continuity as Allen and Diggs love the guy. On the other, I question the game plan, play calls on offense the last two games. Perhaps now that teams no longer have interest he can focus on doing a better job. 🙏

Speculation 💯.

 

maybe they just loved Staley and there was no reason to waste time in naming him their HC.  

maybe the just decided they wanted to keep Shane Steichen and the same offense in place. 
 

Sure, maybe they saw dabolls offense vs the ravens and decided they didn’t want him, but this isn’t the first game we almost exclusively passed the ball the entire first half.  I just don’t think that would be the reason.  Staley’s D just gave up 32 in a loss. Just doesn’t add up imo.

 

regarding the ravens giving up points to other teams, Calais Campbell and Brandon Williams missed a handful of games.  They had multiple injuries in their defensive backfield.  They gave up all those points you mentioned.....and still tied (with the defense led by their new HC) for the league lead in scoring D

Edited January 18, 2021 by NewEra

[Nihilarian]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

I was pretty surprised about Staley last night, but now it makes a lot more sense.  Everyone thought the hire would be about Herbert.  It's actually about Mahomes, and it's kind of smart.  The best way to win the division is for Herbert to keep being Herbert, and for someone to crack the Mahomes code.  Staley might be able to improve the defense much more than Daboll (or anyone else) could improve Herbert and the offense.  So, having taken a step back . . . I get the hire.  

I get it too, somewhat. It makes sense to build that defense while they already have their franchise QB. I wonder who he will peg as OC?

 

To me, this is reminiscent of the Freddie Kitchens hire by Cleveland. Staley has been a DC for ONE season, 2020.

Previous he was the Broncos/Bears OLB coach for 3 seasons and before that college DC. Talk about a meteoric rise.

 

While the Rams have the #1 defense in the league this season. They also have perhaps the two best players at their positions in Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

21 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

Looks like our staff will remain intact for another run at it all next year. This won’t happen often with sustained success, but it’s nice when it does! 
 

Continuity for Josh next year will be huge in cementing himself as elite. 

 

In his presser yesterday, Daboll confirmed that his goal is to become an NFL head coach "eventually" but refused to answer any questions at all on the topic, neither to confirm nor deny interest in the remaining jobs.

 

FWIW

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

I was pretty surprised about Staley last night, but now it makes a lot more sense.  Everyone thought the hire would be about Herbert.  It's actually about Mahomes, and it's kind of smart.  The best way to win the division is for Herbert to keep being Herbert, and for someone to crack the Mahomes code.  Staley might be able to improve the defense much more than Daboll (or anyone else) could improve Herbert and the offense.  So, having taken a step back . . . I get the hire.  

 

I agree. 

 

Same logic goes for the Texans.   I can understand where Watson would like to have a strong offensive mind as a HC, but he had a great year and the Texans offense was #28 in the league for starting field position but #13 in points per drive.  Meanwhile their D is #27 in the league for points given up and #30 for points per drive.

 

[BillsFanSD]

21 hours ago, Max Fischer said:

 

I feel sad that you feel nothing for the someone who has helped lead the Bills to the AFC Championship and may lose out on his dream to be a head coach. Instead, too many people have demonstrated little class by celebrating Daboll's misfortune. 

I think this is a little harsh.  I'm extremely happy that Daboll is (probably) coming back next year.  Is that "celebrating his misfortune?"  I don't see it that way.  He's a key member of a coaching staff that is doing a lot of things well at the moment, and it makes sense that fans would want to see this staff stay together for a little longer.  When he eventually lands a head coaching gig, I'll wish him well.

 

Nothing wrong with wanting to see your team's staff remain intact.