Don't watch GMF this morning.......it'll frustrate you!

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, eball said:

 

Yeah, I agree with this, the Bills don't have anyone good enough to be sure to tackle Lamar one-on-one.  It's also why I don't think we'll play much nickel.  Play a solid base D focused on stopping the run and forcing throws to the outside.

 

Yep. Stop the conventional run game. Don't let Dobbins and Edwards move the chains. Lamar will break one or two 20-30 yard runs off over the game. They don't hurt you if you stop them sustaining drives and if you score when you have the ball. I know it sounds mad but I am almost willing to let them have the Lamar run if that is all that is there for them. Because they can't rely on that for 60 minutes. But if you are letting them move the chains and convert 3rd downs with their backs and passes in the middle of the field and THEN Lamar breaks one. Well now you are in trouble. 

[Ya Digg?]

It’s amazing how quickly the narrative shifts, isn’t it? For several weeks the popular take was Buffalo can’t be stopped but now it seems everyone wants to be the person to say “I told you Buffalo could be stopped” if they lose. If they win they can still quickly flip back to “man that offense is amazing” or “man that defense knows how to get a stop” it’s just lazy journalism at this point 

[Solomon Grundy]

I can't wait to see the looks on all their blangon faces after the Bills win. They'll all be back on the wagon probably giving us the best odds to win the whole dang thing

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

I went by yards per attempt as the more meaningful measure imo....

 

Running they allow 4.6 ypc which is in the 20’s.  
 

Passing NY/A 5.6 or 4th.

 

pts allowed is second behind Rams. 

 

 

They’re both giving up 18.6.  3rd is 20.4. Tied for 1st is first imo.  
 

So you think the ravens have the 20th best run defense?  Because of that stat?  Interesting.  

[CSBill]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

I don't understand watching any of these shows anymore. They don't know anymore than we do. Do you really listen to Kay Adams and her crew talk football?

 

 

 

They talk?

[nucci]

7 minutes ago, CSBill said:

 

They talk?

I watch Kay with sound off

[Helpmenow]

I wouldn’t waste my time with any of these shows. They all suck

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The offenses aren’t taking the field vs air. 
 

Bill run defense has been inconsistent to say the least. The part of the field the bills defend best the Ravens don’t use. 

 

The ravens passing and scoring defense are tops. And while their run D is not as good, the Bills can’t run at all. 
 

This is the tough match up on paper everyone is rightfully talking about. It’s not to say can’t win, won’t win etc. defense could step up and play tough, Digg and Allen could play out of their minds, one of the RBs stepping up might have the game of their life, coordinators might find a great match up to exploit all day... but it’s a tough match up on paper based on what is known. 
 

 

Third down on both sides of the ball was a problem 

I never said it wasn't a tough matchup.  Rams, Broncos, Dolphins, Steelers, Patriots are all ranked ahead of the Ravens in TDs.  We scored on all of them.  I am not worried about whether or not our offense will score on this team.  The biggest concern for me is can the defense do just enough and can we protect the football. One turnover could decide this game.  Offense vs Offense I will take the one that passes all day vs the one that rushes. 

 

We can score quickly.  Barring blown coverage or Lamar breaking off a 50 yard TD run, which can happen, the Ravens will not.  They are not built to come from behind. That is why their record is 1-5 after being down 10 points or more.  The one win was last week.  Titans couldn't score after taken the lead.  Otherwise they would be 0-6.

[GunnerBill]

25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Unfortunately this defense has shown in games they are absolutely pathetic on 3rd down.... killed them late in the game last year in the playoffs against Houston and seemed to have carried over into this season as we saw it a few times this year and against the Colts Sunday.

 

Last season they were 1st or 2nd in the league on 3rd down. It has been a problem this year I agree but mainly in passing situations. That worries me less with Baltimore. They have actually done okay on 3rd and short rush attempts.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

46 minutes ago, NewEra said:

They’re both giving up 18.6.  3rd is 20.4. Tied for 1st is first imo.  
 

So you think the ravens have the 20th best run defense?  Because of that stat?  Interesting.  

on points just went off of pro football reference, but maybe it’s not current. 

 

To me YPG is about the opponent game plan, strategy, scoring and other things, while yards per carry tells me more about, when teams do decide to run on you, how do you handle it. 
 

sort of like how YPA weighs so heavily in passer rating. 

Edited January 13, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

24 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

I never said it wasn't a tough matchup.  Rams, Broncos, Dolphins, Steelers, Patriots are all ranked ahead of the Ravens in TDs.  We scored on all of them.  I am not worried about whether or not our offense will score on this team.  The biggest concern for me is can the defense do just enough and can we protect the football. One turnover could decide this game.  Offense vs Offense I will take the one that passes all day vs the one that rushes. 

 

We can score quickly.  Barring blown coverage or Lamar breaking off a 50 yard TD run, which can happen, the Ravens will not.  They are not built to come from behind. That is why their record is 1-5 after being down 10 points or more.  The one win was last week.  Titans couldn't score after taken the lead.  Otherwise they would be 0-6.

for that second paragraph, I almost want to see long sustained chain moving drives.

 

i think with josh and skill guys when they deliberately play short horizontal ball with 4 wide and potential draw swing game they possess well and score against this sort of defense. 
 

Keeping The running team on the sidelines can cause them to start getting antsy and press. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s mind boggling to think that ANY television commentator would opine on how cold weather would work against the Bills! Did we move our team to Miami? What the....? 

Its still the oversimplification of 'Baltimore runs ball...bills no good at stopping run' 😄 a snowy game would be disastrous for a guy like lamar who relies on cutting on a dime

4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s mind boggling to think that ANY television commentator would opine on how cold weather would work against the Bills! Did we move our team to Miami? What the....? 

Its still the oversimplification of 'Baltimore runs ball...bills no good at stopping run' 😄 a snowy game would be disastrous for a guy like lamar who relies on cutting on a dime

4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s mind boggling to think that ANY television commentator would opine on how cold weather would work against the Bills! Did we move our team to Miami? What the....? 

Its still the oversimplification of 'Baltimore runs ball...bills no good at stopping run' 😄 a snowy game would be disastrous for a guy like lamar who relies on cutting on a dime

[NewEra]

33 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

on points just went off of pro football reference, but maybe it’s not current. 

 

To me YPG is about the opponent game plan, strategy, scoring and other things, while yards per carry tells me more about, when teams do decide to run on you, how do you handle it. 
 

sort of like how YPA weighs so heavily in passer rating. 

Agree 💯.  Great points

[dlonce]

GMF is entertainment. They’ll be back on the wagon after a Bills win.

 

The Ravens are the same team as last year, the Bills are not. Play defense anywhere close to last years game and it’s a Bills victory.

[Bobby Hooks]

I Normally I love gmfb but yeah they’ve been extra Ravensy lately. People love saying how Ravens won 6 in a row. We won 7 in a row. 

8 minutes ago, dlonce said:

GMF is entertainment. They’ll be back on the wagon after a Bills win.

 

The Ravens are the same team as last year, the Bills are not. Play defense anywhere close to last years game and it’s a Bills victory.

Agreed. But Shaq was all over the place that game. In many clips he was the guy running Lamar down. Got to imagine Star was clogging up the middle and Phillips was adding a lot of pressure too. 

 

I honestly ave no idea who takes this one. It’ll be a hell of a game. 

 

Edited January 13, 2021 by Bobby Hooks

[dlonce]

3 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

Normally I love gmfb but yeah they’ve been extra Ravensy lately. People love saying how Ravens won 6 in a row. We won 7 in a row. 

Agreed. But Shaq was all over the place that game. Got to imagine Phillips was adding a lot of pressure too. 

Agreed as well.

We miss Shaq. We especially miss Star big time. 
The Ravens mostly run off tackle so gap integrity is going to be important.

As far as Jackson is concerned, it’s tough to limit his running. Third and longs are very important as long as we do not tee off and lose the edge. 

Maintaining the pocket and rushing inside might do the trick as long as the above mentioned edge players are not too aggressive.

[Rubes]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

We can score quickly.  Barring blown coverage or Lamar breaking off a 50 yard TD run, which can happen, the Ravens will not.

 

On the other hand, our defense has shown time and again that they can do an excellent job of allowing other teams to score quickly. See Seahawks, Rams, and most definitely the Colts, whose two 4th Q scoring drives were 2:38 and 1:55 in length, even though the bulk of the yards were gained on the ground.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

31 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

On the other hand, our defense has shown time and again that they can do an excellent job of allowing other teams to score quickly. See Seahawks, Rams, and most definitely the Colts, whose two 4th Q scoring drives were 2:38 and 1:55 in length, even though the bulk of the yards were gained on the ground.

 

 

This is true.  By passing QB's.

 

Rivers is good and always has been.   Its just his post season that kills his reputation. 

 

[JerseyBills]

5 hours ago, HOUSE said:

But last year, the Bills were one of the few teams that made life difficult on Jackson and the Ravens. In a seven-point win at Buffalo in 2019, Baltimore finished with a season-low 257 total yards.

https://www.pennlive.com/baltimore-ravens/2021/01/baltimore-ravens-vs-buffalo-bills-numbers-that-could-tell-the-story-of-the-divisional-round-matchup.html

McDermott is one of the best Defensive guys in the game.  We have the personnel.  No excuses. Gonna be a dog fight. 

Bills 27 Ravens 17

 

[Bob in STL]

It’s amazing how much media there is for the NFL.   With all the TV, Internet, and social media coverage it only makes sense that the quality of it is poor.  Why listen to, or concern yourselves with, all these opinions?   The majority come  from unqualified people who mimic what they heard another person say.  
 

The game will be decided on the field and I like our chances.  I expect a better overall performance from last week and another win in a closely contested game.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

5 hours ago, streetkings01 said:

They did a segment on the Bills vs Ravens game:

 

#1 - Weather will be an issue......advantage Ravens

#2 - Bills played bad against the Chiefs in bad weather......advantage Ravens

#3 - Ravens played a bad weather game last year against the 49ers and played well.....advantage Ravens.

#4 - Ravens avg 200+ rush yards a game in December(Cowboys, Browns, Jags, Giants, Bengals)

 

Uhhhhhhh did I miss something.......didn't the Ravens also play the Chiefs this year and lost 34-20 with LJ passing for 97 yards?  Didn't the Ravens play in a bad rainy weather game against the Patriots this year and lost 23-17 with LJ passing for 118 yards?  Why bring up our loss to the Chiefs and not their loss? Why show a clip from a bad weather game from last year and not talk about the bad weather game they just played a month and a half ago?

 

I'm starting to really hate the Ravens!

 

Is this what you hated?

 

 

 

 

Just now, Bob in STL said:

It’s amazing how much media there is for the NFL.   With all the TV, Internet, and social media coverage it only makes sense that the quality of it is poor.  Why listen to, or concern yourselves with, all these opinions?   The majority come  from unqualified people who mimic what they heard another person say.  
 

The game will be decided on the field and I like our chances.  I expect a better overall performance from last week and another win in a closely contested game.  

 

IMO  From the top 3 or 4 outlets 

 

NFL Network, by default GMFB, CBS, FOX ESPN --  the GMFB crew is one of the best out there. 

You will NEVER see complete praise for any team.  Even KC and GB gets criticized.

 

NFL Network, GMFB  Tie at 1 and 2

CBS is OK

FOX and ESPN are just bad.

[Rubes]

28 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

This is true.  By passing QB's.

 

Rivers is good and always has been.   Its just his post season that kills his reputation. 

 

 

Still, as I said the bulk of the yards were gained on the ground by the Colts. That, combined with our chronic inability to cover any TE in the passing game, means teams can score as quickly on us as we can score on them.

 

 

[r00tabaga]

This is good

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

Still, as I said the bulk of the yards were gained on the ground by the Colts. That, combined with our chronic inability to cover any TE in the passing game, means teams can score as quickly on us as we can score on them.

 

 

True again.  The bend but don't break Defense by Buffalo limited the Colts to few points. 

Didn't Rivers have to go to the air to score twice quickly? 

 

Yes, Lamar can pass, but can he pass to win if trailing?  That is the question.

 

[Realist]

More and more prognosticators taking the Ravens and saying Bills don't stand much of a chance...I like it that way. Bills play even better with a chip on their shoulder.

[Bobby Hooks]

2 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

It’s amazing how much media there is for the NFL.   With all the TV, Internet, and social media coverage it only makes sense that the quality of it is poor.  Why listen to, or concern yourselves with, all these opinions?   The majority come  from unqualified people who mimic what they heard another person say.  
 

The game will be decided on the field and I like our chances.  I expect a better overall performance from last week and another win in a closely contested game.  

Gmfb’s a pretty entertaining watch. They’re usually pretty high on the Bills. 

 

I think they just really think its a nghtmare matchup for the Bills and are probably leaning toward Ravens coming out on top. 

 

Thats cool, people have opinions. We don’t have to agree with them and can still watch the show. 

Edited January 13, 2021 by Bobby Hooks

[Rubes]

2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

True again.  The bend but don't break Defense by Buffalo limited the Colts to few points. 

Didn't Rivers have to go to the air to score twice quickly? 

 

Yes, Lamar can pass, but can he pass to win if trailing?  That is the question.

 

 

It's a good question, but if the Colts could score on us quickly in large part by running the ball.

 

First drive, 75 yards, 49 on the ground. Second drive, 76 yards, 33 on the ground. Lamar could easily do at least that with his legs...

 

[RobbRiddick]

I always get frustrated during GMF, usually when Kay Adams looks at me through the camera

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Rubes said:

 

Still, as I said the bulk of the yards were gained on the ground by the Colts. That, combined with our chronic inability to cover any TE in the passing game, means teams can score as quickly on us as we can score on them.

 

 

 

The bulk of yards you refer to came on the ground when the Bills were expecting the Colts to pass the football.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

15 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

It's a good question, but if the Colts could score on us quickly in large part by running the ball.

 

First drive, 75 yards, 49 on the ground. Second drive, 76 yards, 33 on the ground. Lamar could easily do at least that with his legs...

 

could. IMO LJ is overhyped.  

 

the Bills did a good job containing him and he last time IIRC. 

 

Josh has improved immensely and LJ is the same as he was.  
 

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

They were...until the Texans mounted that come back. Bills struggled to get off the field on 3rd down in the 2nd half/OT. It’s been somewhat of an issue ever since that game. 

 

The Bills defense faced third down 7 times in the second half/OT.  They stopped 4 of them.  Plus a 4th down stop as well.  One was 3rd and short.  One was 3rd and 8.  The other was 3rd and 18.  Those two hurt and made it seem worse than it was.

Edited January 13, 2021 by Scott7975

[Scott7975]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Not as bad as I thought.....pretty sure the 3rd downs they did convert were long 3rd downs at crucial points in the game.(Specifically the game winning drive in OT where everyone on defense seemed to forget where the first down marker was). 

 

Yes, I edited it to say that those two 3rd and longs really hurt and made it look worse than it was.  3rd and 18 should have been stopped.

[Nextmanup]

8 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

Forecast changed 

 

it’s hardly gonna snow. 

Yeah, it sounds like we are going to get maybe a dusting type thing, but not a lot more.

Not sure that will impact anything, one way or the other.

 

 

[Nihilarian]

After this last game against the Colts it's giving a lot or people pause to think the Bills might be on a downward trend now.  24-27 that the Colts could have easily won and perhaps should have won. 

 

76 plays vs 58, 27 first downs vs 22, 472 yards vs 397. ToP 34:17 vs 25:43 The Bills just blew out the Dolphins the week previous and against the Colts they just kinda blew...

 

The Josh Allen fumble at the end...the Bills were very lucky to have recovered that ball. Not kicking the FG, a missed FG. 

 

Josh Allen needed to carry the Bills offense as the Buffalo run game wasn't really a threat.

 

So, It all comes down to who shows up on Saturday night. The Ravens will bring it along with their very good defensive secondary, blitzes and offensive run game. The latter is usually more productive in snowy, cold weather games. Hence the worry for Buffalo which is mostly a passing offense.

 

Will the very good Buffalo offense show up? Like the one that destroyed the Miami highest paid CB's in the league and made them look silly. Like the one that put up 56 points against the #1 points allowed Miami Dolphins defense in week 17? 

 

Will the good Buffalo defense show up...like the one that made that Miami rookie QB look like a bust or the one that made old man Rivers look he was a youngster, no pressure on him really, no sacks, no INTs which he is noted to throw in big games.

 

Will the Bills OC and DC remove their craniums from their posteriors and game plan better, call better games this week? 

 

If the good Buffalo Bills show up and score a bunch, get the lead and make the Ravens move away from their run game...while containing Lamar Jackson, their big TE Mark Andrews. If the Bills O line has an answer for that daunting Ravens blitz while giving Josh time to throw...it should a win.

 

 

 

P.S. Let's not forget that a bunch of sites were saying that the Dolphins defense was going to shut down the Bills offense. Look what happened there.

 

 

[QLBillsFan]

I for one like media slightly favoring Ravens. Bills have gotten massive media love for weeks. And honestly Bills played a B game and JA carried the team. 
If wind is moderate I don’t think snow will hurt Bills passing game. Advantage offense in snow as receivers know where they are going. I like media slightly against us. Ravens scored 20 on a not so great Titans D. If they score 20, Bills win. Manage Lamar and keep running game under 175, keep TE catch’s under 10. Bills 24-20. 

[Rubes]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

The bulk of yards you refer to came on the ground when the Bills were expecting the Colts to pass the football.

 

Nevertheless, they were able to rip off several very long runs, which were just as effective as long passes and helped lead to very quick scores.

 

Expecting the Colts to pass neither slowed them from passing nor slowed them from running, and did nothing to slow them from scoring.

 

[streetkings01]

Look at the Patriots in free agency.....this is why Bill Belichick zigs while the rest of the league zags - Peter Schraeger

 

Don't these guys know they don't have to continue to suck off the Patriots?  No QB, poor drafting and overpaying for free agents....reminds me of the drought year Bills.  Until they find a franchise QB they'll consistently be a 7-9 win team with a double digit win season here and there.

[78thealltimegreat]

9 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Look at the Patriots in free agency.....this is why Bill Belichick zigs while the rest of the league zags - Peter Schraeger

 

Don't these guys know they don't have to continue to suck off the Patriots?  No QB, poor drafting and overpaying for free agents....reminds me of the drought year Bills.  Until they find a franchise QB they'll consistently be a 7-9 win team with a double digit win season here and there.

If you look up tool in the dictionary you’d see a picture of Peter Schraeger guy just goes whatever the win blows for the day 

Edited March 16, 2021 by 78thealltimegreat

[ndirish1978]

Schraeger is the nerd at the cool kids table. He knows his place is to root for whomever the corporate schills direct him to and he does so unabashedly.

[PrimeTime101]

4 hours ago, streetkings01 said:

Look at the Patriots in free agency.....this is why Bill Belichick zigs while the rest of the league zags - Peter Schraeger

 

Don't these guys know they don't have to continue to suck off the Patriots?  No QB, poor drafting and overpaying for free agents....reminds me of the drought year Bills.  Until they find a franchise QB they'll consistently be a 7-9 win team with a double digit win season here and there.

so why bump this old thread of yours?  This thread had to do with Baltimore game and now your talking about the patriots?