BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Chargers would be foolish not to hire him. Herbert has similar qualities as Josh. But knowing the LA market they may go after a bigger name. That’s what I’m thinking as well a lot of competition and the fact that the chargers might want someone with HC experience rather than signing another coordinator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Direhard Fan said: He stays. Strong ties to Rochester. Move family to LA?? I don't believe he would do that. Pay him more money and make him Asst. Head coach and he stays. Do people really believe he would waste time interviewing for HC jobs if he wasn’t serious about being a HC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Direhard Fan said: He stays. Strong ties to Rochester. Move family to LA?? I don't believe he would do that. Pay him more money and make him Asst. Head coach and he stays. By Rochester I assume you mean West Seneca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Do people really believe he would waste time interviewing for HC jobs if he wasn’t serious about being a HC? Im not saying he stays, but I agree, he is taking it seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I'm not 100% Daboll is destined to be a hc. I think teams are going to be more careful when hiring OCs that offenses are lead by elite qb play. Or else you might get a McDaniels, Gase or Nagy type situation. I don't think Daboll or Bienemy land anything this cycle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said: I'm not 100% Daboll is destined to be a hc. I think teams are going to be more careful when hiring OCs that offenses are lead by elite qb play. Or else you might get a McDaniels, Gase or Nagy type situation. I don't think Daboll or Bienemy land anything this cycle. Compared to how much successful defensive coordinators have been? Compared to how much more successful college coaches have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I'm secretly hoping he stays here for a couple of years to pad his resume and help us get a ring. Honestly if I'm him I would be very wary of accepting any head coaching position in the AFC West. That division is the new AFC East with the Chiefs/Mahomes there. Yes you have solid building blocks and a very promising looking rookie in Justin Herbert, but do you want to be stuck in a division where you have to play the Chiefs twice a year? With the Broncos and Raiders being okay, but not good enough its going to be a slog to win that division and most years you're looking at a wild card being your best shot to make the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) I voted none for one main reason. I don’t think there are many jobs he would want to take over staying with the Bills and Josh another year, and in those specific places I think he would have interest, the talk is other options are the front runners. Just my 2 cents that I don’t think he will just take any job offered to him. I think he is so close to Josh and this team that it would need to be a job he covets. And I have a hard time looking at many of the openings as coveted landing spots. Edited January 12, 2021 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I have a feeling he goes to Jacksonville. I think they want a QB guru up and coming offensive coordinator from a quality organization. Daboll fits that description. I hope Daboll stays put, since he will likely take some other coaches and staff with him to another org. But that is the cost of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Are we SURE Daboll wants to be a head coach? He's already seen the experience of Josh McDaniels leaving the Patriots...then returning. That was a disaster. He'd also be replacing the same guys that were the hot coordinators three and four years ago. Most of those first stints do not go well. But moreover - again with his Pats experience - I'm wondering if he's thinking the Bills can be dynastic with Allen, so why leave? It could go on for a decade. The Pegulas can pay him whatever they choose, of course. And, of course, he's a WNY native. Edited January 12, 2021 by theRalph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I voted none for one main reason. I don’t think there are many jobs he would want to take over staying with the Bills and Josh another year, and in those specific places I think he would have interest, the talk is other options are the front runners. Just my 2 cents that I don’t think he will just take any job offered to him. I think he is so close to Josh and this team that it would need to be a job he covets. And I have a hard time looking at many of the openings as coveted landing spots. These jobs aren't that undesirable. The Jags have Lawrence and a ton of cap space, their ownership is not cheap. They also have an extra 1st in 2021 from the Rams. The Chargers have a promising young QB and solid pieces. The Jets have pick 2 and Darnold along with a pair of extra firsts from Seattle and ownership that isn't cheap. Houston has one of the top QB's in the game and low short term expectations. I agree that some of these situations that aren't the best. Philly and Detroit are bad situations in my opinion. Philly has an odd QB situation and they are really cap strapped. Detroit has a average vet QB with a bad cap situation, not exactly thrilling. Atlanta has a better than average vet QB but their cap situation is a mess. Houston has one of the best QB's in the game but they have no picks in the first two rounds and their cap situation isn't that great. Overall I think that there still are only 32 of these HC jobs and you might be hot as a coordinator one year and then fall off in the next. I do agree Daboll has no issues staying with Buffalo if he doesn't like the fit but I think he would take 3-4 of these situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Do people really believe he would waste time interviewing for HC jobs if he wasn’t serious about being a HC? Don't believe it has anything to do with his being serious. He spent prob less than an hour with each. It may prod the Bills to give him HC level money and an asst. title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Personally i think if he gets one it will be the Chargers. But I am hearing talk that former Philly Coach Doug Pederson may likely land there. I am really hoping Daball stays put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Chargers makes the most sense for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrellsFinest Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Am i the only one who remembers Brian Dabol struggling and fans wanting a new OC? Because im pretty shore that was 2019!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Is Bill O'Brien in the mix for any of these gigs or is the shine off of him right now after the Texans debacle? Gonna head to Mama for a bit to get the NFL stink off of him? OC at Alabama now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicpwrd Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Daboll is too inconsistent...called a great game against Miami, and followed up with a blooper against Indy. I know he has been great for Josh, but if he left, I would not shed a tear. Josh also did a lot to improve on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Chargers would be foolish not to hire him. Herbert has similar qualities as Josh. But knowing the LA market they may go after a bigger name. he’s a good OC. It’s not a sure thing how he interviews as a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I voted for "none."Perhaps a wild take but i don't get the impression he's a guy who has a burning passion to be an NFL head coach. He's been part of extremely successful programs prior to Buffalo and could have been in the interview circuit a lot sooner than 2021. Plus, when push comes to shove, the Pegulas will find a wheelbarrow and fill it with cash if necessary. I don't see Bieniemy leaving KC. He's Andy Reid's heir apparent there and KC is a model franchise for stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I voted none for one main reason. I don’t think there are many jobs he would want to take over staying with the Bills and Josh another year, and in those specific places I think he would have interest, the talk is other options are the front runners. Just my 2 cents that I don’t think he will just take any job offered to him. I think he is so close to Josh and this team that it would need to be a job he covets. And I have a hard time looking at many of the openings as coveted landing spots. I can’t shake the idea that most of these guys work the way they do because of ambition. it’s rare to see and OC rise up that fast, then decide... I’m good. Daboll is hot right now, maybe as he will err be. If he clicks with an owner and can do things his way, likes the prospect at QB, which there are several interesting situations, how does he not take a shot?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So as of now Houston has not requested an interview with Bieniemy and as far as I'm aware Leftwich hasn't interviewed anywhere. I had a go yesterday in my Black Monday thread but the big development since then is Arthur Smith HAS interviewed with the Falcons. I think he is overwhelming favourite to get that job. I Texans will interview Bienamy https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/12/texans-request-interview-with-eric-bieniemy/ I think this may be a simple appeasement thing, but if it is they had better be very open with Watson as to why he does not get the gig. Edited January 12, 2021 by CorkScrewHill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Texans will interview Bienamy https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/12/texans-request-interview-with-eric-bieniemy/ I think this may be a simple appeasement thing, but if it is they had better be very open with Watson as to why he does not get the gig. Yep. Interesting development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. Interesting development. How old is Watson? 24-ish, right? If they think this guy has at least another decade of high-end football in him, it might not be the worst thing to give Bienemy a shot, see what happens for a year or two, and go from there. They can get it right faster with Watson than with just about any other player or combination of players, so giving in might not be the worst move here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: How old is Watson? 24-ish, right? If they think this guy has at least another decade of high-end football in him, it might not be the worst thing to give Bienemy a shot, see what happens for a year or two, and go from there. They can get it right faster with Watson than with just about any other player or combination of players, so giving in might not be the worst move here. I don't think that is stupid at all. Make clear to him Caserio is in charge of personnel and he is just the Head Coach and give him a shot. Let them do the tear down after 2021 and build with all the cap space in 2022 and if at the end of that year it isn't working then you can reconsider. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, billsfan89 said: These jobs aren't that undesirable. The Jags have Lawrence and a ton of cap space, their ownership is not cheap. They also have an extra 1st in 2021 from the Rams. The Chargers have a promising young QB and solid pieces. The Jets have pick 2 and Darnold along with a pair of extra firsts from Seattle and ownership that isn't cheap. Houston has one of the top QB's in the game and low short term expectations. I agree that some of these situations that aren't the best. Philly and Detroit are bad situations in my opinion. Philly has an odd QB situation and they are really cap strapped. Detroit has a average vet QB with a bad cap situation, not exactly thrilling. Atlanta has a better than average vet QB but their cap situation is a mess. Houston has one of the best QB's in the game but they have no picks in the first two rounds and their cap situation isn't that great. Overall I think that there still are only 32 of these HC jobs and you might be hot as a coordinator one year and then fall off in the next. I do agree Daboll has no issues staying with Buffalo if he doesn't like the fit but I think he would take 3-4 of these situations. I know those things, that’s why I said there would be some I could see him interested in, however in each of those teams he’s not currently the leading candidate linked to those teams. So my point was that unless he gets one of those, I think he passes on taking an undesirable one and come back one more year with Josh. So you basically just agreed with me 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I can’t shake the idea that most of these guys work the way they do because of ambition. it’s rare to see and OC rise up that fast, then decide... I’m good. Daboll is hot right now, maybe as he will err be. If he clicks with an owner and can do things his way, likes the prospect at QB, which there are several interesting situations, how does he not take a shot?? Again, I said there are some I can see him being interested in. But several of these openings have been disasters already for young coaches with poorly run organizations and a long way from turning around. My point is the bond between him and Josh is so strong that I think it will need to be a job he covets and believes in the ownership and front office potential as opposed to take just any HC job offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 If the Bills make a long run I csn see teams possibly getting impatient and going with another candidate besides Daboll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 He'll be the Chargers or Texans HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I think he likes the prospect of the Chargers, Eagles, or Texans. The Chargers have to be the number 1 job in the league based off their QB situation. If he goes, hopefully it's to the Eagles. I want to see the Chargers botch their HC again with another retread like Lewis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Dabes has interviewed in two spots - LAC and the Jets. Saleh looks set to get the Jets job. I always thought the Chargers were the most likely but I wouldn't be at all surprised of the Eagles might a late push to interview him. At the moment him staying or going is 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Bangarang said: FWIW Remember this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bleedinggreennation.com/platform/amp/2017/9/3/16249726/former-nfl-gm-doug-pederson-head-coach-philadelphia-eagles-mike-lombardi-carson-wentz-ringer-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Remember this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bleedinggreennation.com/platform/amp/2017/9/3/16249726/former-nfl-gm-doug-pederson-head-coach-philadelphia-eagles-mike-lombardi-carson-wentz-ringer-video I would never argue he was qualified with only less than a season calling plays as an OC. Teams get desperate and make silly decisions. In the end, he won a SB with the Eagles so they can’t be too mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I think atlanta is a dark horse here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 44 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I would never argue he was qualified with only less than a season calling plays as an OC. Teams get desperate and make silly decisions. In the end, he won a SB with the Eagles so they can’t be too mad. It gets better: https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/mike-lombardi-wrote-doug-pederson-a-letter-apologizing-1828471653/amp Also, winning a SB for the Eagles is like the the 2004 Red Sox, the 2005 White Sox, and the 2016 Cubs: life defining. It is no small achievement. It is in fact one of the greatest postseason runs of the century. For that alone, he will always be a legendary coach. I have a LOT of friends from Philly, and they will never forget what he pulled off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 9 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: Compared to how much successful defensive coordinators have been? Compared to how much more successful college coaches have been? Yeah same thing. I think that hiring is going to be less based on solely production. Production is still important, but I think intangibles are going to be valued as much, if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 best fit for him is Chargers, but obv i hope he stays (imagine that, i was so hard on him before!). i think saleh to the jets is the match made in heaven. big media team, big media DC, he's great on camera and is popular. and i hope he crashes and burns and stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 The chargers just make too much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 11:54 AM, MJS said: What I haven't heard talked about much is if Daboll leaves he is going to try to take some of his staff with him. So maybe Dorsey follows him and becomes HIS offensive coordinator. The Bills can block staff raiding if contracts exist. If contracts are done after the season, then, they could go. We don't know that status...but be sure Bean is watching that situation. Actually, I think that discussion will be professional between the individuals here. they have worked together for three years, so it will be above board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, bigK14094 said: The Bills can block staff raiding if contracts exist. If contracts are done after the season, then, they could go. We don't know that status...but be sure Bean is watching that situation. Actually, I think that discussion will be professional between the individuals here. they have worked together for three years, so it will be above board. Yeah, they can block a lot of things, but that isn't the way this organization operates. Nor should they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 7 hours ago, colin said: best fit for him is Chargers, but obv i hope he stays (imagine that, i was so hard on him before!). i think saleh to the jets is the match made in heaven. big media team, big media DC, he's great on camera and is popular. and i hope he crashes and burns and stinks. That would be bad for Darold imho...as Saleh is a DC at heart. Would need a great OC....Chan comes to mind. Is Chan really retiring, or, leaving Miami because he thinks Tua hasn't got it. Bring Chan to the Jets to see if Darnold is fixable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: That would be bad for Darold imho...as Saleh is a DC at heart. Would need a great OC....Chan comes to mind. Is Chan really retiring, or, leaving Miami because he thinks Tua hasn't got it. Bring Chan to the Jets to see if Darnold is fixable. i hope they trade darnold for a back of tape and draft a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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