Simon Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Two incredibly dumb things on 4th down today led to one conversion(and TD) and another that probably should have resulted in a Miami 1st down. If he is going to be that irretrievably stupid, I don't want him anywhere near the field in a playoff game. This is a really good football team and I'd hate to see it sabotaged by the idiocy of one guy at a big moment in a tight game. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Yeah, he’s either totally on or totally off. I’d prefer to use him only as depth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 The PI on the 4th down was lame. He didn't pull on Parker at all. 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, TroutDog said: Yeah, he’s either totally on or totally off. I’d prefer to use him only as depth. Isn't that what he is. He isn't starting on the outside, Wallace is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 But with Tre' back, he'll be the 5th CB. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Norman is a Rex type of guy. Will make plays and penalties. So to answer your question- flip a coin. I'm just glad he is the #3 CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 At this stage of his career, he's a depth guy. Will make a splash play here and there, but a major liability as a #1 corner. On the chart, I hope he's below our two obvious starters, and below D. Jackson too. So I say no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 What’s with the Josh Norman is dumb thing? Seems personal. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: The PI on the 4th down was lame. He didn't pull on Parker at all. They've been calling that off arm wraparound for at least 4 years now. It was absolutely a penalty. The worst part was that he read the route, was in perfect postion and didn't have to do it. It was just dumb. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 I mean, you could ask the same about Knox. Will he commit a crucial drop in a playoff game? It’s 50/50 in my view. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He played a savvy game today. That bump he had as the WR was breaking that led him to fall and get the pick six and the 4th down play where he sat on the sticks and got the pass breakup were sublime. oh and the 4th down PI in the end zone was Chinsy. He brings a lot of swag to the D and I’m glad he’s part of the crew. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, TailgateChef said: At this stage of his career, he's a depth guy. Will make a splash play here and there, but a major liability as a #1 corner. On the chart, I hope he's below our two obvious starters, and below D. Jackson too. So I say no. exactly. The fact that Norman is a depth guy on this team shows how stacked we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, Magox said: 4th down play where he sat on the sticks and got the pass breakup were sublime. He grabbed the receivers arm yet again despite being called for it 5 minutes earlier. Then he jumped up and started yapping in the guys face to the point where most officials would have called it taunting and another Miami first down. How you going to feel when he pulls something like that in the 4th qrtr of a one score playoff game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 I appreciate the sentiment, but I’m not remotely concerned about a CB low on the depth chart after a 56-26 win. Could he cost us a game ? Possibly, but there isn’t a team in the league filled with great players at every level of the depth chart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Simon said: They've been calling that off arm wraparound for at least 4 years now. It was absolutely a penalty. The worst part was that he read the route, was in perfect postion and didn't have to do it. It was just dumb. If he had the back arm on the waist and not the shoulder, it most likely would not have been called. Refs hardly ever call that arm on the waist, but on the shoulder is easy to see with their limited acuity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Norman has probably exceeded expectations here. When he was signed there was a lot of talk if he was done and out of gas and a waste of a roster spot. He’s made a few plays and been burned and penalized some and missed some time. He’s kinda what you want in veteran depth. He can make some plays when called upon but can’t be called upon too often or he’s exposed. With Dane showing flashes of real potential and hopefully everyone staying healthy norman won’t be seeing too many snaps. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, Simon said: Two incredibly dumb things on 4th down today led to one conversion(and TD) and another that probably should have resulted in a Miami 1st down. If he is going to be that irretrievably stupid, I don't want him anywhere near the field in a playoff game. This is a really good football team and I'd hate to see it sabotaged by the idiocy of one guy at a big moment in a tight game. He’s only going to play when the others taking a breather. that pick 6 was awesome though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon said: He grabbed the receivers arm yet again despite being called for it 5 minutes earlier. Then he jumped up and started yapping in the guys face to the point where most officials would have called it taunting and another Miami first down. How you going to feel when he pulls something like that in the 4th qrtr of a one score playoff game? You seem to have your mind made up. It's football, every week NFL corners do the exact same thing. Its also an emotional game, I appreciate Norman's passion. As for playoffs, as long as Tre White is lined up on the opposite side, I think we will be fine with Wallace, Norman or Jackson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Simon said: Two incredibly dumb things on 4th down today led to one conversion(and TD) and another that probably should have resulted in a Miami 1st down. If he is going to be that irretrievably stupid, I don't want him anywhere near the field in a playoff game. This is a really good football team and I'd hate to see it sabotaged by the idiocy of one guy at a big moment in a tight game. Maybe we could enjoy the win for a day before bashing one of our guys..., maybe... Go Bills!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, fasteddie said: If he had the back arm on the waist and not the shoulder, it most likely would not have been called. Refs hardly ever call that arm on the waist, but on the shoulder is easy to see with their limited acuity. They'll still call it on the waist if you hook your hand all the way around or if it looks at all like you turned a guy. You just don't do it anymore, especially when you're already in position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Doc said: But with Tre' back, he'll be the 5th CB. I have no problem with his veteran experience in there as a Nickel back. The 4th down PI could've gone either way. Dane will eventually take his spot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: You seem to have your mind made up. It's football, every week NFL corners do the exact same thing. Its also an emotional game, I appreciate Norman's passion. And every week corners get called for it. For several years now. Will you appreciate Norman's "passion" when it costs us a TD or 15 yards and a change of possession in an elimination game? 10 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Maybe we could enjoy the win for a day before bashing one of our guys..., maybe... Go Bills!!! You enjoy your marshmallow today. I'm thinking about two marshmallows next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Simon said: And every week corners get called for it. For several years now. Will you appreciate Norman's "passion" when it costs us 15 yards and a change of possession in an elimination game? You enjoy your marshmallow. I'm thinking about two marshmallows next week. I hate marshmallows... 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, Don Otreply said: I hate marshmallows... 😂 Communist! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon said: Communist! I will admit to being slightly left of center, but no more than that... 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He is CB4 or 5 depth at this phase. I will take his leadership and experience. He still has a knack for the ball and making big plays. I have zero issues or concerns with Norman. I'm glad he's on our team in all honesty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 He still has some game in him for sure, but I’m much more excited about Dane Jackson going forward this year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 His whole career has been this same type of play. Grab every play and only get called on it 1/3 of the time. Mouth runs the whole time. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I appreciate the sentiment, but I’m not remotely concerned about a CB low on the depth chart after a 56-26 win. Could he cost us a game ? Possibly, but there isn’t a team in the league filled with great players at every level of the depth chart. thats exactly the type of guy you have to be worried about against top teams the next 4 consecutive weeks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 My school of thought on corners is PI calls are never bad. Why not try to get away with something? If you get caught no big deal. Without the left arm Parker pulls that in for a TD Big deal now we get to practice goal line stands (where they didn't do so well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Norman has probably exceeded expectations here. When he was signed there was a lot of talk if he was done and out of gas and a waste of a roster spot. He’s made a few plays and been burned and penalized some and missed some time. He’s kinda what you want in veteran depth. He can make some plays when called upon but can’t be called upon too often or he’s exposed. With Dane showing flashes of real potential and hopefully everyone staying healthy norman won’t be seeing too many snaps. Dane Jackson is clearly the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: Isn't that what he is. He isn't starting on the outside, Wallace is. I thought he was depth. Only getting significant reps because White was sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: His whole career has been this same type of play. Grab every play and only get called on it 1/3 of the time. Mouth runs the whole time. Exactly what you want in a corner I hate guys that hang their head...of course your getting beat...this is the NFL. Its how you react to getting beat......hence the pick six after getting owned by Parker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, BfloBillsFan said: I thought he was depth. Only getting significant reps because White was sitting. It is a good day when the backup CB is a topic of discussion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, Just Joshin' said: It is a good day when the backup CB is a topic of discussion Its a better day when he gets a pick 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, BfloBillsFan said: I thought he was depth. Only getting significant reps because White was sitting. Bills played all their depth today. Nearly everyone got reps. okay by me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Why is Norman targeted in this topic? Is he even a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Exactly what you want in a corner I hate guys that hang their head...of course your getting beat...this is the NFL. Its how you react to getting beat......hence the pick six after getting owned by Parker. Yeah, hes had success with it. But if I had to choose, I'd take Wallace out there who gets beat the old fashioned way. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Yes. Next question.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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