We are the first team to beat the Chargers by more than one score this season.

[buffaloboyinATL]

It is strange to me that when the Bills win a game by 10 points, the general feeling nationally is that we are lucky to win, but when the Chiefs beat the Bucs by 3, they dominated them and let them back in during garbage time.  Every time I see the national media giving us credit, it seems to be begrudgingly, like they are waiting for us to fall apart at any minute, but they have to talk about us for now because we keep winning.  I am honestly not complaining about this, I get why it happens. It will take awhile to shake the image this team spent the past 20 plus years building, but I believe we are well on our way to changing that. I guess we will just have to continue enjoying being under-rated in the meantime.

 

Go Bills!

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Would you rather play like the Bills did and win by 10? Or play like the Chiefs did and win by 3? Which game was "closer" ?

 

The Chiefs were playing pretty close to flawless football against a pretty good team. They were up 27-10 before taking their foot off the gas and letting the Bucs back into the game. 

 

The Bills were playing pretty decent football (up until the 4th Quarter), against a fairly mediocre team (Chargers are talented, but have a bad record). I'm not trying to be too negative here, but we went into the 4th quarter up by 10, and then proceeded to turn the ball over 3 times on 7 offensive plays. We're very lucky the Chargers didn't turn those turnovers into more than 3 points (with all due respect to our defense). 

 

The way the Bills played would result in a win maybe 33% of the time. The way the Chiefs played would be a win about 95% of the time. 

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

20 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Would you rather play like the Bills did and win by 10? Or play like the Chiefs did and win by 3? Which game was "closer" ?

 

The Chiefs were playing pretty close to flawless football against a pretty good team. They were up 27-10 before taking their foot off the gas and letting the Bucs back into the game. 

 

The Bills were playing pretty decent football (up until the 4th Quarter), against a fairly mediocre team (Chargers are talented, but have a bad record). I'm not trying to be too negative here, but we went into the 4th quarter up by 10, and then proceeded to turn the ball over 3 times on 7 offensive plays. We're very lucky the Chargers didn't turn those turnovers into more than 3 points (with all due respect to our defense). 

 

The way the Bills played would result in a win maybe 33% of the time. The way the Chiefs played would be a win about 95% of the time. 

 

 

 

I view the 3 turnovers in 7 plays as an anomaly.  I'm not sure if I've ever seen that happen.  

When the Chiefs played the Chargers, they needed two 50+ yard FG's and overtime to beat them.  I would say that has a win rate of about 33%.

Edited December 1, 2020 by Royale with Cheese

[SCBills]

I think all anyone is saying here is that the Bills need to figure out how to not have 4-5 second half possessions in a row where we only have one scoring drive.

 

Against playoff caliber teams, you can typically figure that they will score on 2-3 of their possessions in that time frame, which constantly makes the game 1-2 scores closer, almost every second half.  

 

Now maybe our Defense is rounding into shape and we can hold teams off during a dry spell, but the easier way to ensure that we have a team built to advance in the Playoffs, is to have an Offense that becomes more consistent.

 

 

Edited December 1, 2020 by SCBills

[Scott7975]

19 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Would you rather play like the Bills did and win by 10? Or play like the Chiefs did and win by 3? Which game was "closer" ?

 

The Chiefs were playing pretty close to flawless football against a pretty good team. They were up 27-10 before taking their foot off the gas and letting the Bucs back into the game. 

 

The Bills were playing pretty decent football (up until the 4th Quarter), against a fairly mediocre team (Chargers are talented, but have a bad record). I'm not trying to be too negative here, but we went into the 4th quarter up by 10, and then proceeded to turn the ball over 3 times on 7 offensive plays. We're very lucky the Chargers didn't turn those turnovers into more than 3 points (with all due respect to our defense). 

 

The way the Bills played would result in a win maybe 33% of the time. The way the Chiefs played would be a win about 95% of the time. 

 

 

 

Most Chargers games came down to the very end.  Including the Chiefs game.  That is not mediocre.  They are just on the wrong side of the win column.  Obviously people would like to see less mistakes.  Your sentence about taking the foot off the gas after dominating a team has happened for the Bills in a few games.  Like the Rams.  Peoples outlook there was also the Bills were flawed and lucky to win.  

This team is two games shy right now of matching last seasons record with a way harder schedule than last season.  It would be one game if they could have stopped one hail mary. The Bills lead the division and are likely to win it for the first time in forever.  People still complain.  Half of this board said the Bills couldn't match it this year because the schedule was too tough.  Yet they are and those same people still dog the Bills.

[buffaloboyinATL]

19 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

 

The way the Bills played would result in a win maybe 33% of the time. The way the Chiefs played would be a win about 95% of the time. 

 

 

I just don't feel that is the case.  I think we had a great game plan to beat them. Yes, there were some execution issues, and Joey Bosa made it very difficult to get the passing game going, but the Chargers are a better team than their record shows.  Thankfully our defense stepped up and kept it from burning us. They are a tough out and we beat them by 2 scores. My point is just that "just winning" is not enough for this team, there always seems to be an attitude of they won, but... Largely deserved, but other teams seem to be given more credit for ugly wins than we get.  

[SCBills]

10 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I just don't feel that is the case.  I think we had a great game plan to beat them. Yes, there were some execution issues, and Joey Bosa made it very difficult to get the passing game going, but the Chargers are a better team than their record shows.  Thankfully our defense stepped up and kept it from burning us. They are a tough out and we beat them by 2 scores. My point is just that "just winning" is not enough for this team, there always seems to be an attitude of they won, but... Largely deserved, but other teams seem to be given more credit for ugly wins than we get.  

 

The COVID/Tenn/KC Primetime consecutive losses did a number on the perception of this team..

 

We've had a really tough schedule, and have beaten a lot of good teams, but the two best teams we've faced are probably those two, and we fell on our face in those two games.  

 

The media/public aren't Bills fans.. They don't care that Tennessee had 3 weeks to rest/prepare for us, while we went into that game without key players and generally seemed to have no desire to play.  They don't care that Josh Allen played hurt during that stretch.  Don''t care that our Defense was generally useless back then.  Don't care that we were in limbo for multiple weeks on who we play and when.  They just saw us play the two best teams on our schedule and not look very good in those losses.  

 

Ever since then we've basically been a "yea..but..." team.  We can change that narrative in December, for sure!                  

 

 

Edited December 1, 2020 by SCBills

[Saint Doug]

42 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Would you rather play like the Bills did and win by 10? Or play like the Chiefs did and win by 3? Which game was "closer" ?

 

The Chiefs were playing pretty close to flawless football against a pretty good team. They were up 27-10 before taking their foot off the gas and letting the Bucs back into the game. 

 

 

The problem is you don’t take your foot off the gas when you are playing Tom Brady. Any coach in the NFL knows this and I don’t think the Chiefs purposely decided to lay back and get comfortable with their lead. What happened was there was a correction towards the mean in terms of play. The Chiefs aren’t perfect. The Bills aren’t either.  

[MPL]

I don't know that the general feeling nationally is that we were lucky against the Chargers. Gregg Rosenthal and co. on the Around the NFL Podcast talked positively about the Bills win—particularly the Defense doing a great job of making Herbert uncomfortable early and staying on him, and getting the run game going with over 170 yards. Nantz and Romo also got into a discussion about how good the AFC is this year, and I think it was Nantz that said something along the lines of, "don't forget the Bills. They probably don't get as much recognition as they deserve."

 

I think with the exception of the Steelers and Chiefs, every team that is currently in the playoffs (or in the hunt) has question marks that get brought up regularly by analysts, writers, etc.

That said, I have no faith in this team if a game comes down to a Hail Mary. 😆

[Heavy Kevi]

1 minute ago, MPL said:

I don't know that the general feeling nationally is that we were lucky against the Chargers. Gregg Rosenthal and co. on the Around the NFL Podcast talked positively about the Bills win—particularly the Defense doing a great job of making Herbert uncomfortable early and staying on him, and getting the run game going with over 170 yards. Nantz and Romo also got into a discussion about how good the AFC is this year, and I think it was Nantz that said something along the lines of, "don't forget the Bills. They probably don't get as much recognition as they deserve."

 

I think with the exception of the Steelers and Chiefs, every team that is currently in the playoffs (or in the hunt) has question marks that get brought up regularly by analysts, writers, etc.

That said, I have no faith in this team if a game comes down to a Hail Mary. 😆

 

Quality first post.

 

Someone just needs to tell the DB's to "knock it down" for sheets sake. They are trying to get the glory INT, when knocking it down is the correct play there.

[JohnNord]

40 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I think all anyone is saying here is that the Bills need to figure out how to not have 4-5 second half possessions in a row where we only have one scoring drive.

 

Against playoff caliber teams, you can typically figure that they will score on 2-3 of their possessions in that time frame, which constantly makes the game 1-2 scores closer, almost every second half.  

 

Now maybe our Defense is rounding into shape and we can hold teams off during a dry spell, but the easier way to ensure that we have a team built to advance in the Playoffs, is to have an Offense that becomes more consistent.

 

 

The bigger question is - how do all units have a good 4 quarters of football?  It seems like in every game, there’s one unit that is effective enough to win and another unit that causes the game to be closer than it should be.
 

The one exception might be Seattle. 

[Kwai San]

43 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

The COVID/Tenn/KC Primetime consecutive losses did a number on the perception of this team..

 

We've had a really tough schedule, and have beaten a lot of good teams, but the two best teams we've faced are probably those two, and we fell on our face in those two games.  

 

The media/public aren't Bills fans.. They don't care that Tennessee had 3 weeks to rest/prepare for us, while we went into that game without key players and generally seemed to have no desire to play.  They don't care that Josh Allen played hurt during that stretch.  Don''t care that our Defense was generally useless back then.  Don't care that we were in limbo for multiple weeks on who we play and when.  They just saw us play the two best teams on our schedule and not look very good in those losses.  

 

Ever since then we've basically been a "yea..but..." team.  We can change that narrative in December, for sure!                  

 

 

 

That and the fact that the B ills have been buried playing at 1pm and a 4:20 ( 😉 ) game out west.  People don't know not care about our Bills like we do.  Perceptions be damned...I for one and supremely happy to see the Bills where they are, likely to win a division in a gazillion years, winning games that "people" didn't think we would, overcoming HUGE obstacles.  Our Team is gonna shine......then they will get the recognition......but until then......just win baby!!!

 

GO BILLS!

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

it actually goes back to last season I believe?

[Kwai San]

Oh and lets not forget that after the first 4 games the Media "brain trust" was hopping right onto the JA led Bills bandwagon and then.....the Bills had to play the Covids and then KC.  Covids game was super ugly and Chefs game was maddening as the Bills couldn't get out of their own way at times.  Fast forward 4 wins and one hail mary loss the wagon is slowly but surely getting some seats filled.....win this Monday nite and there will be a need to pump a bit more air in the tires......win against the Squealers and dang it skippy the Bills are gonna need a few more wagons!

 

One step at a time......GO BILLS! 

[Doc]

Yeah, but just barely...

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Most Chargers games came down to the very end.  Including the Chiefs game.  That is not mediocre.  They are just on the wrong side of the win column.  Obviously people would like to see less mistakes.  Your sentence about taking the foot off the gas after dominating a team has happened for the Bills in a few games.  Like the Rams.  Peoples outlook there was also the Bills were flawed and lucky to win.  

This team is two games shy right now of matching last seasons record with a way harder schedule than last season.  It would be one game if they could have stopped one hail mary. The Bills lead the division and are likely to win it for the first time in forever.  People still complain.  Half of this board said the Bills couldn't match it this year because the schedule was too tough.  Yet they are and those same people still dog the Bills.

 

So did this one. Had the Chargers chosen to kick some easy FGs this also would've been a 1 score game. 

 

The Bills took their foot off the gas against the Rams, and ended up needing last second heroics (and a borderline DPI call). The Chiefs took their foot off the gas against the Bucs.... and needed to run the clock out on their last possession. The Bills dropped to a 16% chance of winning that game. The Chiefs only dipped down to 84%. Pretty big difference there. 

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I view the 3 turnovers in 7 plays as an anomaly.  I'm not sure if I've ever seen that happen.  

When the Chiefs played the Chargers, they needed two 50+ yard FG's and overtime to beat them.  I would say that has a win rate of about 33%.

I believe that was Justin Herberts first start as well.

 

He is obviously way more polished now and much better, which made the matchup tougher for the bills.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I view the 3 turnovers in 7 plays as an anomaly.  I'm not sure if I've ever seen that happen.  

When the Chiefs played the Chargers, they needed two 50+ yard FG's and overtime to beat them.  I would say that has a win rate of about 33%.

 

I feel like people are writing off the 3 turnovers in 7 plays because the Chargers didn't capitalize and it didn't cost us the game. 

 

This thread is about "narratives" and the narrative after the Chiefs/Chargers game was that the Chiefs survived and pulled out a win in a game that they really should have lost. 

 

OP was complaining that the narrative after this week is that the Chiefs "dominated" in a 3 point win, while the Bills "struggled" in a 10 point win. Having watched both games I agree with the narrative. 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

9 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

It is strange to me that when the Bills win a game by 10 points, the general feeling nationally is that we are lucky to win, but when the Chiefs beat the Bucs by 3, they dominated them and let them back in during garbage time.  Every time I see the national media giving us credit, it seems to be begrudgingly, like they are waiting for us to fall apart at any minute, but they have to talk about us for now because we keep winning.  I am honestly not complaining about this, I get why it happens. It will take awhile to shake the image this team spent the past 20 plus years building, but I believe we are well on our way to changing that. I guess we will just have to continue enjoying being under-rated in the meantime.

 

Go Bills!

 

1. Because Brady 

 

2. where is the commentary on the Chargers? 

 

 

The Bills had THE most rushing yards against them with 172 combined yards

 

The Bills had limited them to 1 passing TD.  (same as KC and Carolina) 
The Bills defense provided Herbert's worst QB rating of the season of 58.82 (thus far)

The Bills had limited Herbert to his 2nd worst Comp %.  31 of 52

Edited December 1, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[Billsfan1972]

The defense certainly played better and seem improved, but doesn't take away that it was a sloppy game.  Coaching mistakes by Lynn cost them a # of points.

 

The 172 yards rushing were almost all in the 4th (102 I think) & earlier rushing put the Bills in a # of holes.

 

The Bills after 2 huge 10 point wins are still only +17 net, which metrics say is closer to a 6.5 win team, and face it 2 are vs. The Jets.....  Yes yes, we haven't played Kax, like Cleveland, Pitt & Miami have......   

 

And if LAC scores on the last play, this thread is not here.....

Edited December 1, 2020 by Billsfan1972

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

27 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

So did this one. Had the Chargers chosen to kick some easy FGs this also would've been a 1 score game. 

 

The Bills took their foot off the gas against the Rams, and ended up needing last second heroics (and a borderline DPI call). The Chiefs took their foot off the gas against the Bucs.... and needed to run the clock out on their last possession. The Bills dropped to a 16% chance of winning that game. The Chiefs only dipped down to 84%. Pretty big difference there. 

 

10 POINT loss and they only got to within 7.

 

Not 3 (3 times - 1 was a W and the 2 L's were in OT ), not 1 point, not 5 points, not 7 (Tampa), and not 6 points to the Fish.

 

They did beat the Jags buy 10 points, a 6 point W against the JETS, 

[ngbills]

2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

It is strange to me that when the Bills win a game by 10 points, the general feeling nationally is that we are lucky to win, but when the Chiefs beat the Bucs by 3, they dominated them and let them back in during garbage time.  Every time I see the national media giving us credit, it seems to be begrudgingly, like they are waiting for us to fall apart at any minute, but they have to talk about us for now because we keep winning.  I am honestly not complaining about this, I get why it happens. It will take awhile to shake the image this team spent the past 20 plus years building, but I believe we are well on our way to changing that. I guess we will just have to continue enjoying being under-rated in the meantime.

 

Go Bills!

Go watch both games. The Chiefs dominated the majority of the game. The Bills led the entire game. The Chiefs had a long stretch in which they could go on auto pilot. The game was seemingly in out of reach territory. The Bills game was high intensity nearly the entire game. The LAC have played well but no one would call them a playoff team. Some still think the Bucs are playing in the Super Bowl. 

[LABILLBACKER]

I see the Chargers game as an opportunity by the coaches to not let that 2nd Half carry over to the playoffs. We play that way in the playoffs we're done. And I don't think any fan can deny that. At the risk of sounding negative I'm grateful for any win. I'm encouraged by the improvement of our defense. I just pray they can clean up the sloppiness that seems to happen once we establish decent leads.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

I agree that we need to put together a dominant performance against a good team to change the national narrative about the Bills. If we stack 4 good quarters against the Cards, Rams and Chargers the narrative would have changed, until we do that there will be plenty of reasons to point out why we aren't an elite team. Hero Josh still shows up a little too often and it seems like we just lose focus at times but hopefully we can improve and be playing our best ball when it matters most, at the end of the season.

 

 

[foreboding]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

This team is two games shy right now of matching last seasons record with a way harder schedule than last season.  It would be one game if they could have stopped one hail mary. The Bills lead the division and are likely to win it for the first time in forever.  People still complain.  Half of this board said the Bills couldn't match it this year because the schedule was too tough.  Yet they are and those same people still dog the Bills.

Dang straight man! WTF people want, we are on the right path and we are seriously in this thing right now. Arguably one of the best 5 or 6 teams in the entire league! 

C'mon people!!

[dma0034]

Bills have been interesting in a few ways:

 

-Game 1 against the Jets, dominated but the Jets put some late points to pull closer

-Game against Dolphins, back and forth but dominated when they had to. Dolphins got 8 points late when Bills played Prevent

-Dominated the Rams in the first half, got dominated the second half

-Vegas - game was never in doubt imo

-Played a well rested Titans group that was villified for a week because of Covid. Started off terrible with a bounced pick. Titans would have beaten any team that week

-Chiefs - prepare for the Mahomes throwing game and get gashed. Also weather effected Allen a lot imo.

-Let the Jets stick around and only got FGs but controlled that game

-Patriots - Cam fumbles the game away

Seattle - Seattle was ready to stop the run, got crushed in the passing game

-Arizona - Hail Mary changes outcome of score

 

Honestly; except for the Jets, Dolphins and Raiders I think a lot of these games could have gone either way. Better weather? Maybe the Bills put up more points in the 1st half. Covid doesn't screw up Titans game? Who knows. Seattle adjusts earlier to get more defense against the passing game. Arizona- Hail Mary fails. Rams - No DPI.. also the Kroft Interception doesn't count. Chargers - Lynn kicks FG earlier in the 4th. Chargers get 2 shots to tie at the 2 yard line. Cam doesn't fumble. 

 

I think the Bills can beat any team, they just have to fix those mistakes. This team could be 10-1 or 6-5 right now based on a couple random plays or conditions 

Edited December 1, 2020 by dma0034

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

Chiefs - prepare for the Mahomes throwing game and get gashed. Also weather effected Allen a lot imo.

 

No more than it affected Mahomes.  

 

Josh has a rocket and that cuts through the wind.  It's the "touch" passes that get blown off target IMO 

[dma0034]

1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

No more than it affected Mahomes.  

 

Josh has a rocket and that cuts through the wind.  It's the "touch" passes that get blown off target IMO 

 

It definitely had more effect on Allen's throws then Mahomes. Not saying it didn't effect Mahomes but Allen looked terrible and that's what led to my favorite thing of the year when Bradshaw said he was accurate at throwing lol. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

9 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

 

It definitely had more effect on Allen's throws then Mahomes. Not saying it didn't effect Mahomes but Allen looked terrible and that's what led to my favorite thing of the year when Bradshaw said he was accurate at throwing lol. 

 

Josh was still wearing the brace from his injury on Oct 4 against the Raiders.  It was the 4 week "slump" in the offense. 

The brace he had to wear was restricting his ability

 

The brace came off and Josh was throwing for 415 yards again

Edited December 1, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

I feel like people are writing off the 3 turnovers in 7 plays because the Chargers didn't capitalize and it didn't cost us the game. 

 

This thread is about "narratives" and the narrative after the Chiefs/Chargers game was that the Chiefs survived and pulled out a win in a game that they really should have lost. 

 

OP was complaining that the narrative after this week is that the Chiefs "dominated" in a 3 point win, while the Bills "struggled" in a 10 point win. Having watched both games I agree with the narrative. 

 

Im writing it off because it’s anomaly.  I don’t think I will ever see the Bills have 3 turnovers in a row in the 4th again in my lifetime.

You’re basing this off of something extremely rare.

 

I don’t see how a game that ends up in OT and the Chiefs needing two 50+ yard field goals is dominating.  They dominated to a tie after 4 quarters?

[Jobot]

This team is improving week to week, season over season... The playoffs don't start tomorrow so there's more time to continue to get better. If you're upset about winning games like this, your expectations are impossibly unrealistic.

 

Look at how our defense is shaping up! It was such a liability early in the season. This is a much bigger story line than any narrative of how 'un-pretty' the Bills won this game.

 

The offense had an off quarter and turned the ball over a few times.. it happens against NFL caliber teams.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 hours ago, foreboding said:

Dang straight man! WTF people want, we are on the right path and we are seriously in this thing right now. Arguably one of the best 5 or 6 teams in the entire league! 

C'mon people!!

and there is no denying it!!!!

 

KC, Pitt, Buffalo, Tenny, 

Then there are the Cravens and Brownies with “questionable” QB,s

 

Last season at this time the Bills were still “pretenders” and ranked 15th to 20th in the league. 
 

The NFC isn’t what it used to be. 
GB, Seattle, NO.  Of those Taysom might carry them into the future. 
 

AZ at 6-5 is in the top 15ish as well. 

 

the Rams - too many issues to say they are contenders. 
 

Tampa and Grandpa 👴 Brady are fighting for a playoff spot. 

[BuffaninSarasota]

5 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

1. Because Brady 

 

2. where is the commentary on the Chargers? 

 

 

The Bills had THE most rushing yards against them with 172 combined yards

The Bills had THE most take away's with 3

The Bills had limited them to 1 passing TD.  (same as KC and Carolina) 
The Bills defense provided Herbert's worst QB rating of the season of 58.82 (thus far)

The Bills had limited Herbert to his 2nd worst Comp %.  31 of 52

 

IIRC, the Bills had only 1 takeaway (Tre's INT), while the Bills committed 3 turnovers (1 int and 2 fumbles)

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Would you rather play like the Bills did and win by 10? Or play like the Chiefs did and win by 3? Which game was "closer" ?

 

The Chiefs were playing pretty close to flawless football against a pretty good team. They were up 27-10 before taking their foot off the gas and letting the Bucs back into the game. 

 

The Bills were playing pretty decent football (up until the 4th Quarter), against a fairly mediocre team (Chargers are talented, but have a bad record). I'm not trying to be too negative here, but we went into the 4th quarter up by 10, and then proceeded to turn the ball over 3 times on 7 offensive plays. We're very lucky the Chargers didn't turn those turnovers into more than 3 points (with all due respect to our defense). 

 

The way the Bills played would result in a win maybe 33% of the time. The way the Chiefs played would be a win about 95% of the time. 

 

 

Why is it luck when our defense makes plays but not luck when the opposing defense makes plays lol I just dont understand this double standard we have.  They are lucky we fumbled twice in a row while running the ball down their throat to close out the game then if our defense 'got lucky' shutting down their offense after turnovers.  You have a 7+ point lead since early in the game and that only results in a win 33% of the time? 🤣 the bucs were getting beat up all game yardage wise but hung around and needed one stop to have a shot at a game winning drive...much like our game against the chiefs actually..  the chargers never were in a position to do better than tie against us.

Bucs had a considerably better chance to win than the chargers did

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

and there is no denying it!!!!

 

KC, Pitt, Buffalo, Tenny, 

Then there are the Cravens and Brownies with “questionable” QB,s

 

Last season at this time the Bills were still “pretenders” and ranked 15th to 20th in the league. 
 

The NFC isn’t what it used to be. 
GB, Seattle, NO.  Of those Taysom might carry them into the future. 
 

AZ at 6-5 is in the top 15ish as well. 

 

the Rams - too many issues to say they are contenders. 
 

Tampa and Grandpa 👴 Brady are fighting for a playoff spot. 

People want us to go out and play like the afc championship winner every week and that isn't even close to realistic.  Even those cheating patriots dynasty teams would go out and get pantsed against a good team from time to time (except in 07 when they didn't get pantsed til the superbowl of course 🤣) the regular season success the chiefs and steelers have had this year is far from the norm for even a great team but in the playoffs it only takes one loss to spoil it all...ask the ravens about last year they'll tell ya

[Punching Bag]

8 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

It is strange to me that when the Bills win a game by 10 points, the general feeling nationally is that we are lucky to win, but when the Chiefs beat the Bucs by 3, they dominated them and let them back in during garbage time.  Every time I see the national media giving us credit, it seems to be begrudgingly, like they are waiting for us to fall apart at any minute, but they have to talk about us for now because we keep winning.  I am honestly not complaining about this, I get why it happens. It will take awhile to shake the image this team spent the past 20 plus years building, but I believe we are well on our way to changing that. I guess we will just have to continue enjoying being under-rated in the meantime.

 

Go Bills!

 

So you are saying there are a lot of Bills fans from the wall in the media.  I did not know!

[Don Otreply]

Who are all these other loser team that couldn’t beat that team by double digits, they must really suck even worse than the Bills.. 😁👍

 

Go Bills!!!

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Who are all these other loser team that couldn’t beat that team by double digits, they must really suck even worse than the Bills.. 😁👍

 

Go Bills!!!

 

Those pathetic teams include the Chiefs, Saints, Raiders and the Bucs. The Chargers are better than their record, and that was a better win than it appears on the surface.

 

As @Royale with Cheese mentioned, that turnover spree was a freaky event or the score might have been even more appealing. I don’t recall anything like that before in my many years of watching, ESPECIALLY in a win! 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

IIRC, the Bills had only 1 takeaway (Tre's INT), while the Bills committed 3 turnovers (1 int and 2 fumbles)

 😬 thought that looked wrong. 
 

[Don Otreply]

47 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Those pathetic teams include the Chiefs, Saints, Raiders and the Bucs. The Chargers are better than their record, and that was a better win than it appears on the surface.

 

As @Royale with Cheese mentioned, that turnover spree was a freaky event or the score might have been even more appealing. I don’t recall anything like that before in my many years of watching, ESPECIALLY in a win! 

Oh, I agree, it was sarcasm on my behalf, aimed at those that imo lack understanding. 👍

 

Go Bills!!!