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Cam Newton tests positive for Covid, OUT Sunday v Chiefs UPDATE: Game postponed


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8 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

Well I would argue that we really don't know how well it will work. Have to consider that it's only week 4 also and we have Titains, Falcons, and now Pats , so it's a possibility this could go downhill. 

I agree.  It’s not going to be a normal season, but so far it has been as normal as one could hope.  We need to understand that this virus is highly contagious, we don’t really know how it spreads, and testing positive is not a moral failing.  The good news is that it’s highly likely that all these players who get it will recover quickly.

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48 minutes ago, bills6969 said:

How is it possible that only he tested positive and not any other teammates? I’d be shocked if other Pats players or coaches don’t test positive as well. I bet the NE KC gets postponed.

Presumably Newton got it from a source outside the team environment.  He could have spread it to others, but it has not shown up yet, but he may not have too.  Stay tuned.

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1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I get your point but these guys gotta be able to enjoy their lives too.  I’m assuming the place was practicing all the guidelines.

 

So was Tre White talking about not being able to see his family during the season BS?

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50 minutes ago, Process said:

First big name to miss a game.

 

Lucky for the Patriots they play the chiefs and broncos next two weeks. Two games they have very little chance of winning/losing with or without Cam.

 

"No chance" against the Broncos? They have a chance to beat the Broncos with Stidham at QB, IMO. Who will be Denver's QB?

 

38 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

Wondering if it could be one of those false positives maybe? Guess we will see soon enough.

 

Exactly my first thought. Do they still start releasing positive names with the first positive?  Seems like there have been a number of false positives in the NFL previously.

 

I definately wish Cam well and hope this is simply a mistake.

 

37 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

Yes dominoes are going to start to fall.  Players who could not stop smoking weed to keep getting paid millions of dollars are not going to be able to follow rules thru Superbowl.  Some just do not have the will power.

 

Yes, weed smoking leads to Covid 19. I know that's isn't exactly what you are saying, but your logic is just as warped.

 

33 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

No extra weeks being added to season is a bad thing.  Forfeits are the proper response if a team cannot play.  Adding extra games (not an entire bye week for league) hurts teams who will be in playoffs and need to play an extra game while other playoff teams rest and get healthy.

 

 

Fortunately the league isn't stupid enough to forfeit the games a team can't play because of a world wide pandemic. They would be far better to cancel the season for all, than to punish teams for succumbing to some thing they CAN NOT control. A person can do plenty to minimize their chances, but still get infected.

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1 minute ago, Billever76 said:

First of all covid19 is NOT the flu...its much more contagious....the flu comparisons are a folly

 

He's clearly not saying it's the flu. Don't be obtuse. He's saying that it spreads like the flu, and even though it's more contagious, it's not a certainty that everyone in a 3 block radius will get it. 

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1 minute ago, Figster said:

I've mentioned this in previous discussions.  A one week break at every quarter of the season for all teams needs to be utilized IMO. 

 

That's a great idea. They need more flexibility & more room to work with for these situations.

 

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If this thing starts to spiral out of control with a 2-3 teams being infected and shut down each week but not the majority of teams then I think the thing that makes the most sense to me is to add a couple weeks to the end of the season for make up regular season games. The start of the playoffs would be pushed back 2 or 3 weeks. The ending of the season would be odd because half the teams might end on the originally scheduled date while the other half might have another 1 or 2 games to finish out the season.

 

The other option would be to do a massive postponement like the NBA did and pick games back up early in the year 2021. This would also likely include a shortening of the regular season to like 10 or 12 games. But I would much prefer the first option. 

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39 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Jesus Christ talk about overreaction.

 

I don't know if you noticed but it appears two games won't be played tomorrow. At some point the schedule itself becomes a factorZ.

 

So Jesus Christ right back at ya.

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2 minutes ago, Antonio said:


Well I saw Ty Nsekee (sp) Instagram story on Friday night. He was out in a restaurant/bar/club full of people... I’m not sure if they are allowed to do that. But as a responsible teammate he shouldn’t be doing that. He is risking the entire team. 

 

It is "Ty Nsekhe" (correct spelling makes it easier to search although with current standards in journalism maybe it does not make that much a difference).

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3 minutes ago, Antonio said:


Well I saw Ty Nsekee (sp) Instagram story on Friday night. He was out in a restaurant/bar/club full of people... I’m not sure if they are allowed to do that. But as a responsible teammate he shouldn’t be doing that. He is risking the entire team. 

Agree. They should have very strict rules. It can possibly affect other teammates, their families, the entire game, tv deals etc...

 

Me being in the military we can’t even go to restaurants. It may jeopardize the mission. There mission should be to play football. Shoot they all make like $25- 50k a game Minimum. Some are making almost a Million. 
 

I seriously think they should start to consider sequestering players with very strict family visitation rules. But set up living facilities at the team facilities. 

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1 minute ago, whatdrought said:

 

He's clearly not saying it's the flu. Don't be obtuse. He's saying that it spreads like the flu, and even though it's more contagious, it's not a certainty that everyone in a 3 block radius will get it. 


This is why listening to Chris Brown this week was incredibly frustrating.  
 

I 100% understand being angry over the Raiders being filmed at a large indoor gathering with no masks and mingling with people, but he was acting like you immediately get COVID if you don’t wear a mask somewhere...and that’s just not how this works.  
 

Hopefully the Pats contained it.  Would be a big boost to the league if the Titans were an anomaly and the Pats/Falcons were able to contain it and play.  

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2 minutes ago, Figster said:

I've mentioned this in previous discussions.  A one week break at every quarter of the season for all teams needs to be utilized IMO. 

 

I have thought the same thing... Seems ridiculous not to have something built into the schedule.

 

 

Those upset about the Titans getting a bye before facing us (if that game happens) can rest easy knowing that our game against the Chiefs will be their third in 10 days... Seems like TNF will likely not be happening for us. 

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1 minute ago, Success said:

So, does the Bills/Raiders become the national 4:00 game on Sunday?

 


Nice call Success.  There are only 2 4pm games so it is likely if it is postponed to Tuesday that the Bills become the national draw.  I don’t want to see anyone get sick, but if this happens, I can stay home for the game.  Thanks for bringing it up.

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7 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Prudence would say to change your fantasy lineup in case the game gets further postponed. 

I had not thought about that. I have Tyreek Hill. I wonder how this plays out. Will points be retroactively apply to this week if the game is postponed beyond Monday/Tuesday???

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2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Two big changes for the Bills cause of this:

 

Tomorrow's game will likely be national.

 

I doubt we play the Chiefs on TNF the 15th, as that would be 3 games in 10 days for them (if the tuesday thing happens)

 

Maybe swap the Monday night game with the Bills and Chiefs? Haven't looked at who is playing that game, though, and their schedules

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1 minute ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

I had not thought about that. I have Tyreek Hill. I wonder how this plays out. Will points be retroactively apply to this week if the game is postponed beyond Monday/Tuesday???

 

I doubt that... For the Steelers (my Defense) it just said this was their bye week.

 

1 minute ago, 716er said:

 

Maybe swap the Monday night game with the Bills and Chiefs? Haven't looked at who is playing that game, though, and their schedules

 

Or just dump the Chiefs and Bills on Sunday. Maybe swap SNF and TNF... Who knows. 

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3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Two big changes for the Bills cause of this:

 

Tomorrow's game will likely be national.

 

I doubt we play the Chiefs on TNF the 15th, as that would be 3 games in 10 days for them (if the tuesday thing happens)

I was already thinking bills titans would be moved to Tuesday, and bills chiefs would be moved to Sunday. This makes it more likely you are right. 

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Hoping for no more positive tests and for this game to still be played. Otherwise the season might start coming unglued. 

 

Sucks for your starting QB to miss the game so last minute, but couldn't happen to a better team.

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1 minute ago, RiotAct said:

Sorry if I’m dense... what does postponing the NE-KC game one or two days really do?  Is it a hedge in case even more players test positive?

 

 

my guess is that if they go Today, tomorrow, monday, and tuesday without any additional positives that they will consider it isolated. 

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1 minute ago, RiotAct said:

Sorry if I’m dense... what does postponing the NE-KC game one or two days really do?  Is it a hedge in case even more players test positive?

 

I think that is exactly it. If spread is shown through either locker room they will postpone the game till a later week in the season just like they did with the Titans-Steelers game.

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11 minutes ago, mannc said:

I agree.  It’s not going to be a normal season, but so far it has been as normal as one could hope.  We need to understand that this virus is highly contagious, we don’t really know how it spreads, and testing positive is not a moral failing.  The good news is that it’s highly likely that all these players who get it will recover quickly.

Yea, I would agree with you there. It could definitely be worse. Just hope that going forward that the NFL can somehow manage to not have anymore cases. Easier said than done obviously, but hopefully all players coaches etc will follow the guide lines to a T and maybe they can keep this at bay.

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2 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said:

Sweet now maybe Bills LV game will be on here in Columbus Ohio

 

Horrible way to think. Oh, and exactly what I was thinking. Bills on TV Sunday!!!

 

 

1 minute ago, RiotAct said:

Sorry if I’m dense... what does postponing the NE-KC game one or two days really do?  Is it a hedge in case even more players test positive?

 

Test others multiple times. Figure out how/where the player was infected to see if others are at risk from the same exposure source. Clean the facility, etc.  Just guessing though

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