Mango Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/8/27/21403772/buffalo-bills-entire-marketing-department-resigns-per-report The Pegula's are creating quite the string of bad credit in the last few years as an employer (outside of actual football ops). Saw it briefly mentioned in the Chris Brown thread. Thought it deserved its own discussing. Mods, feel free to merge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 This doesn't sound good, but part of me wonders how often these things went on in years past and nobody knew about it. 25 years ago we likely wouldn't have known, or cared, if someone on the business side left the team. I also worry about what happens with the stadium now. No way NY is going to pony up any $$ for a Bills stadium post-COVID. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Two sides to every story - will wait for more facts. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 So are they hiring? 6 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Is this different than what was reported in the Athletic? That Chris Brown story said three people. Now it's the entire department. Were the three the entire department or did more leave? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 "... according to Tim Graham." Why am I not surprised? Timmy is so salty. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: So are they hiring? Yes! Apparently there's a post on Linkedin for the position according to the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Two sides to every story - will wait for more facts. You're looking for "facts" on the internet? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, MJS said: "... according to Tim Graham." Why am I not surprised? Timmy is so salty. He's reporting that the entire department is gone. What are you talking about? He made it up? Anyway, maybe this suits you better?: “All I can say is that morale is very low outside of the football department,” says John Wawrow of the Associated Press. “Just when you think things can’t get lower they do.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Was the entire department 3 people? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Two sides to every story - will wait for more facts. They weren't fired, they quit----dream jobs in the most high profile pro sports league in the country--during a pandemic. What facts do you think are still yet to be made known that would make this a good thing or not a bad turn of events for this organization? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 They have a record label?!?!?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He's reporting that the entire department is gone. What are you talking about? He made it up? Anyway, maybe this suits you better?: “All I can say is that morale is very low outside of the football department,” says John Wawrow of the Associated Press. “Just when you think things can’t get lower they do.” Yeah, it’s not a great look. Let’s face it, the Bills pretty much sell themselves in WNY. At its heart Buffalo is truly a hockey town, but the Sabres have been so bad for so long that they have to be almost impossible to sell here. I can’t imagine my job being dependent on doing that. And that situation is definitely not the fault of anyone in marketing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Even the Washington Football Team's Marketing department hasn't quit...and they just got busted for making creeper spy vids for Snyder. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He's reporting that the entire department is gone. What are you talking about? He made it up? Anyway, maybe this suits you better?: “All I can say is that morale is very low outside of the football department,” says John Wawrow of the Associated Press. “Just when you think things can’t get lower they do.” I expect him to stop trying to dig up dirt on the Bills 24/7 365. That's literally all he cares about. He's obsessed with painting the organization as this evil empire. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, MJS said: I expect him to stop trying to dig up dirt on the Bills 24/7 365. That's literally all he cares about. He's obsessed with painting the organization as this evil empire. So he should not report this? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They weren't fired, they quit----dream jobs in the most high profile pro sports league in the country--during a pandemic. What facts do you think are still yet to be made known that would make this a good thing or not a bad turn of events for this organization? Don't celebrate too much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: This doesn't sound good, but part of me wonders how often these things went on in years past and nobody knew about it. 25 years ago we likely wouldn't have known, or cared, if someone on the business side left the team. I also worry about what happens with the stadium now. No way NY is going to pony up any $$ for a Bills stadium post-COVID. Without public money nothing will happen I don't think. The Fanbase in WNY is not as wealthy as other communities so ticket prices will have to stay on the cheaper side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: So he should not report this? He should probably go find a job. This one isn't working out for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, MJS said: I expect him to stop trying to dig up dirt on the Bills 24/7 365. That's literally all he cares about. He's obsessed with painting the organization as this evil empire. Just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, MJS said: He should probably go find a job. This one isn't working out for him. How is breaking a story like this "not working out" for a reporter?? You're kidding, right? Do people really think like this? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, BarleyNY said: Just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you. I doubt they give him much thought. But yeah, I'm sure they weren't happy with his overly negative reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 It's 3 people. Many times, people will take past employees with them when they leave. Could easily be the case here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 The Pegulas just aren’t very good at the business side of sports. They never have been. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How is breaking a story like this "not working out" for a reporter?? You're kidding, right? Do people really think like this? Such a breaking story. Two people decide to quit their jobs. Must be because the Pegulas are evil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, MJS said: I doubt they give him much thought. But yeah, I'm sure they weren't happy with his overly negative reporting. Link us to the last 3 "dirt" reports on the Bills and PSE that Graham has published. Should take you no time. 2 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: It's 3 people. Many times, people will take past employees with them when they leave. Could easily be the case here. Take them where? To the unemployment line? Kinko's for resume workshops? Uber car lease dealers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 This is a big nothing burger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The Pegulas just aren’t very good at the business side of sports. They never have been. Careful..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Combined with the past reports of a "toxic" environment, at PSE, it's not great optics for the Pegulas. That said, these jobs are so coveted it will be a blip before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Mike in Horseheads said: This is a big nothing burger. Just now, Green Lightning said: Combined with the past reports of a "toxic" environment, at PSE, it's not great optics for the Pegulas. That said, these jobs are so coveted it will be a blip before long. Why would anyone, let alone everyone, quit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Back2Buff said: It's 3 people. Many times, people will take past employees with them when they leave. Could easily be the case here. I am guessing it is the executive marketing team. I would assume there are some low level graphic designers, video editors, etc. Or maybe not, they could hire it to an outside firm to handle a lot of that via contract work, rather than employ a team themselves. I will say, I spoke to some people at PSE about a position a few years ago over some beers, introduced by a few mutual friends, and it does not sound like a great place to be professionally. Pay was very low and there was no room for growth. I was told I would have to probably leave to get a promotion, pay raise, etc. Sort of hear breaking. I thought it would have been so cool to work for the Bills, Sabres, Bandits, Amerks. Apparently they sell that as the "dream" and how they get around wages and promotions. Also some friends work with PSE on some joint initiatives, projects, etc. and they regularly say it is very tough there. I don't know that to be the entire truth of the org. But what keeps getting reported, plus the conversations with people I know who have first hand experience, it all seems to jive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Honestly do not give a single *****. Why do the Bills even need a Marketing department? Are there people in Buffalo who are unaware of the team? Do they think they are expanding the fan base with a cool billboard? I always got a laugh when people referred to Russ Brandon as a "marketing genius". All it takes to market the Bills in Buffalo is posting the schedule. Folks show up. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Mango said: I am guessing it is the executive marketing team. I would assume there are some low level graphic designers, video editors, etc. Or maybe not, they could hire it to an outside firm to handle a lot of that via contract work, rather than employ a team themselves. I will say, I spoke to some people at PSE about a position a few years ago over some beers, introduced by a few mutual friends, and it does not sound like a great place to be professionally. Pay was very low and there was no room for growth. I was told I would have to probably leave to get a promotion, pay raise, etc. Sort of hear breaking. I thought it would have been so cool to work for the Bills, Sabres, Bandits, Amerks. Apparently they sell that as the "dream" and how they get around wages and promotions. Also some friends work with PSE on some joint initiatives, projects, etc. and they regularly say it is very tough there. I don't know that to be the entire truth of the org. But what keeps getting reported, plus the conversations with people I know who have first hand experience, it all seems to jive. Yup, I looked at it several years back as well. It's a total joke there as far as comp is concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Maybe they miss Ralph. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Why would anyone, let alone everyone, quit? I've quit a gig on principle and the job was filled in a week. No regrets on my part. Whoever they hire will live in the PSE's new normal that the past employees couldn't abide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He's reporting that the entire department is gone. What are you talking about? He made it up? Anyway, maybe this suits you better?: “All I can say is that morale is very low outside of the football department,” says John Wawrow of the Associated Press. “Just when you think things can’t get lower they do.” Yeah, he was so right about McD having doubts about them. Why would anyone doubt Timmy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why would anyone, let alone everyone, quit? Not saying it happened in this case, but they may have been poached by a competitive business/someone they used to work with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: Yeah, he was so right about McD having doubts about them. Why would anyone doubt Timmy? So you are on board with Graham made up this story too? Of course you are! 2 minutes ago, 716er said: Not saying it happened in this case, but they may have been poached by a competitive business/someone they used to work with. yeah, that's what happened. They all got hired away by that place or guy they used to do marketing for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: So you are on board with Graham made up this story too? Of course you are! Read what I wrote above. And of course you aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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