Logic Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/16/spencer-long-retires-three-days-after-signing-with-49ers/ Woah. So...bullet dodged on that one, I guess. Thank goodness the Jets cut Brian Winters! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Interesting. Wonder what prompted that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 See Beane knew something all along 4 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I’m sure they had some intel on that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 But Beane was sleeping and should have gotten a draft pick! Beane 1, know-it-all fans 0. 13 9 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Maybe Long was just cooked mentally and physically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, eball said: But Beane was sleeping and should have gotten a draft pick! Beane 1, know-it-all fans 0. Like I said before, there are things you can criticize Beane over, but getting picks for players isn't one of them. If he can, he will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 So he didn’t last Long in San Fran! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, WMDman said: See Beane knew something all along Bit of a leap there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Pretty awesome timing Beanester! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) Or, maybe he took the post-deadline CoronaVirus opt-out. As PFT has been openly encouraging players to do for a couple weeks. Maybe next year when he's looking for a team, its better to say "i quit for health reasons" than "i was fired." Or, maybe (small chance) that he got to SF, saw their Virus protocols in action, and said "aw hail naw" Edited August 16, 2020 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Bit of a leap there. Not really. Retiring is a pretty big decision that one doesn't arrive at quickly. And often-times quietly. Edited August 16, 2020 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Interesting he’d retire right after signing. Especially since he went from one contender to another. Got to wonder if something was found in his medicals or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) Very likely that his position coach picked up on his level of commitment to football - or lack thereof - throughout the offseason and early TC and when Winters entered the FA market, he told mcd and beane to please swap out those two based on what he saw Edited August 16, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantankeous Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Makes me wonder if he hadn’t been cut, would he still be playing..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Bit of a leap there. Not really. You don’t think this staff knows its players? Edited August 16, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Very likely that his position coach picked up on his level of commitment to football - or lack thereof - throughout the offseason and early TC and when Winters entered the FA market, he told mcd and beane to please swap out those two based on what he saw Could have been anyone from a coach or another O-lineman. Hell Long might have even told them he was considering it so they decided to cut bait. There were other candidates for release and they easily could have afforded to keep him on the roster cap-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Should change his name to Spencer Short 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I wonder if Beane wears his Superman cape to bed? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) It could also be that he was still playing because he liked the culture, locker room, and coaches in Buffalo. Maybe when he got to San Fran and got a sense of the team he realized that he wasn't going to enjoy it as much as he had in Buffalo. He probably already has more than enough money to retire comfortably (the Jets gave him a big contract when he left the Washington Football Team) and simply decided to call it a day. Either way, he is a part of the Bills' family now and I wish him all the best in retirement. Edited August 16, 2020 by Inigo Montoya 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Doc said: Not really. Retiring is a pretty big decision that one doesn't arrive at quickly. And often-times quietly. or he just decided he didn’t want to uproot everything on a whim and move across the country. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Bit of a leap there. I'm not seeing the leap. It's not out of the realm of possibility. I might say even probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, inaugural balls said: I'm not seeing the leap. It's not out of the realm of possibility. I might say even probable. Didn’t say it’s impossible. said it was a leap to declare it true. Edited August 16, 2020 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, NoSaint said: Didn’t say it’s impossible. said it was a leap to declare it true. Nor do I see the declaration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Brandon, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Brandon, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"! I thought he was the Key Master... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: But Beane was sleeping and should have gotten a draft pick! Beane 1, know-it-all fans 0. Hammer down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 What the heck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Someone brought up the opt out thing, and to that very small minority, the opt out ended a week and half ago. He retires, he gets only what he made and that’s it. It doesn’t matter if he had a horrible disease genetic history or something, he had to opt out by the deadline. For the 100th time, the $150k is an advance, they have to pay it back. If they have a legitimate medical excuse like for example Star, the $200k, they don’t have to pay back. The team is on the hook for that part. Whatever his reason, god bless. Him, his family, and hope he is healthy. I don’t need to know whether there was a medical reason or not. It’s none of my business. If he retires, ok. If he decides to come back, great. You would think the man isn’t dumb, if he had a legitimate medical reason like type 1 diabetes, asthma, cardiac history, whatever, he would have opted out by the deadline and received the $200 k free and clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I'm going with, "If I can't play for the Buffalo Bills, I won't play at all" reason. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'm going with, "If I can't play for the Buffalo Bills, I won't play at all" reason. Have to wonder why he even bothered signing with the Niners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Nor do I see the declaration I can’t make you get your eyes checked but I would suggest it 9 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Someone brought up the opt out thing, and to that very small minority, the opt out ended a week and half ago. He retires, he gets only what he made and that’s it. It doesn’t matter if he had a horrible disease genetic history or something, he had to opt out by the deadline. For the 100th time, the $150k is an advance, they have to pay it back. If they have a legitimate medical excuse like for example Star, the $200k, they don’t have to pay back. The team is on the hook for that part. Whatever his reason, god bless. Him, his family, and hope he is healthy. I don’t need to know whether there was a medical reason or not. It’s none of my business. If he retires, ok. If he decides to come back, great. You would think the man isn’t dumb, if he had a legitimate medical reason like type 1 diabetes, asthma, cardiac history, whatever, he would have opted out by the deadline and received the $200 k free and clear. Could be any number. Could be a surprise on his physical. Could be an angry wife. Could be not wanting to move across the country for a new job during the pandemic. Could be he was shocked by how much he disliked the dude at the locker next to him and he said screw it I don’t want to be semi quarantined with strangers I don’t like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I can’t make you get your eyes checked but I would suggest it Could be any number. Could be a surprise on his physical. Could be an angry wife. Could be not wanting to move across the country for a new job during the pandemic. Could be he was shocked by how much he disliked the dude at the locker next to him and he said screw it I don’t want to be semi quarantined with strangers I don’t like. Completely agree Saint. Don’t care. His business. He’ll figure out what he does next. NFL, life after football, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Have to wonder why he even bothered signing with the Niners Did he sign there or did they get him off waivers? If it was waivers then maybe it's true that the Bills knew something releasing him and the 49ers took a chance on him. If he signed in SF, then he obviously had something come up recently to make him changes his mind. Neither way makes Beane a God like people here perceive him to be. The Bills cut him, getting the exact same thing for him they would have gotten had he retired a Bill except if he retires signed with them they may get some more cap relief and still hold his rights if he wants to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Did he sign there or did they get him off waivers? If it was waivers then maybe it's true that the Bills knew something releasing him and the 49ers took a chance on him. If he signed in SF, then he obviously had something come up recently to make him changes his mind. Neither way makes Beane a God like people here perceive him to be. The Bills cut him, getting the exact same thing for him they would have gotten had he retired a Bill except if he retires signed with them they may get some more cap relief and still hold his rights if he wants to come back. He signed there, not subject to waivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Will this affect conditional draft picks? * 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Brian Winters looked like a clear upgrade even before Long's retirement announcement. San Francisco can at least be grateful Long didn't wait until halftime of game one to pull the plug on his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: or he just decided he didn’t want to uproot everything on a whim and move across the country. That’s my thought too. I didn’t see details of his contract and can’t find even a dollar amount in the internet. Between moving, Cali taxes and cost of living in SF maybe it just wasn’t worth it to him for a one year contract that was probably heavily incentivized. Edited August 16, 2020 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Did he sign there or did they get him off waivers? If it was waivers then maybe it's true that the Bills knew something releasing him and the 49ers took a chance on him. If he signed in SF, then he obviously had something come up recently to make him changes his mind. Neither way makes Beane a God like people here perceive him to be. The Bills cut him, getting the exact same thing for him they would have gotten had he retired a Bill except if he retires signed with them they may get some more cap relief and still hold his rights if he wants to come back. Long had too many years in the league to be subjected to waivers at this time of season. The Bills had to outright release him. Edited August 16, 2020 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: or he just decided he didn’t want to uproot everything on a whim and move across the country. He likely had more offers than just the 9'ers. People here were thinking Beane could have flipped him for a pick. 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Have to wonder why he even bothered signing with the Niners I think he was seriously thinking about retirement, got his release, tried to give it another go and then called it quits. Again it's not a decision you make quickly or quietly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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