Tre White decides not to opt out, everyone is beside themselves with excitement because we're all in need of any small nugget of good news these days. Who wants a drink?

[soflabillsfan1]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Are that many people attacking him?  Most Twitter takes I see, along with posters here have been pretty respectful.  Even those who aren’t thrilled about his potential decision are being pretty tame, IMO.  
 

Head on over to the CJ Mosley takes from Jets fans if you want to see anger. 

It's in vogue to be a victim these days. 

[Ya Digg?]

2 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said:

It's in vogue to be a victim these days. 

Is he playing a victim though?  I'm sure most people are saying they support him, but I'm sure there are a ton of idiots out there attacking him because he is thinking about playing football.  Even if it's "just" 500 or 1,000 people who are saying negative things towards him, that's still A LOT of people being jackasses!  I'd be willing to be that number is a lot higher than 1,000 people too...I'd be pretty upset if I had hundreds or thousands of strangers saying some probably pretty awful things to me just because I was thinking about not playing a game

[atlbillsfan1975]

It’s a tough spot anyway you look at it.  Hate to not have him but it’s his life and his decision to make. 

[nucci]

2 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Is he playing a victim though?  I'm sure most people are saying they support him, but I'm sure there are a ton of idiots out there attacking him because he is thinking about playing football.  Even if it's "just" 500 or 1,000 people who are saying negative things towards him, that's still A LOT of people being jackasses!  I'd be willing to be that number is a lot higher than 1,000 people too...I'd be pretty upset if I had hundreds or thousands of strangers saying some probably pretty awful things to me just because I was thinking about not playing a game

Do you really care what people think about you...especially people you don't know?

[YoloinOhio]

Unfortunately for Tre and other players in this situation, that sort of reaction from a certain percentage of the fan base is to be expected. It would be naive to be surprised by it. Obviously not everyone feels that way, but it’s typically a vocal minority. 

[soflabillsfan1]

5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Is he playing a victim though?  I'm sure most people are saying they support him, but I'm sure there are a ton of idiots out there attacking him because he is thinking about playing football.  Even if it's "just" 500 or 1,000 people who are saying negative things towards him, that's still A LOT of people being jackasses!  I'd be willing to be that number is a lot higher than 1,000 people too...I'd be pretty upset if I had hundreds or thousands of strangers saying some probably pretty awful things to me just because I was thinking about not playing a game

Of course he is.  Read his twitter.  Poor me, most people support me but i'll single out a few bad ones and play victim.  It's the life of a public figure.  You're gonna get a lot of support and a few haters.  Be a man and deal with it.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

Just take the phrase “ he is putting family first” out of it. 
 

are all the other players with kids not putting family first? Is McD being a selfish douche not putting family first? 
 

how bout the press and fans come out say “ man, I respect the hell out of Matt Barkley , he is putting family first and decided to not opt out” ....

 

I have no problem with it. I think they are all putting their family first. That will mean different things to different people. 

He is opting out after that tweet. 

[Mango]

56 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

how does opting out help any leverage next year. It doesn’t if anything what it does is show how much of a talent he is in a very DB friendly McD Secondary system. 

 

I mean, Levi Wallace was absolutely abused at times last year. I wouldn’t be so confident in the next man up. 

[Dragoon]

Well...on my way to work. Later. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

We had tweets from some of the Bills reporters, like say Matt Parrino, putting him on a pedestal saying “that’s the kind of father I want to be”... which on one hand, I get it... but I’ll admit that I immediately thought about all the other fathers on our team who opted in reading opinions like that, and I don’t think it makes them any less of a father.  

 

I think these are valid points.  I think we have a lot of guys who are good fathers and love their kids, and they’re not less so for playing.

Don’t get me wrong, I respect Tre’s right to make the decision he’s contractually allowed to make, but I agree it shouldn’t come with a pedestal.

[mjt328]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

Just take the phrase “ he is putting family first” out of it. 
 

are all the other players with kids not putting family first? Is McD being a selfish douche not putting family first? 
 

how bout the press and fans come out say “ man, I respect the hell out of Matt Barkley , he is putting family first and decided to not opt out” ....

 

Thank you.  These arguments have devolved into this idea that it's EITHER "safety, health, family" OR you are just a selfish jerk who only cares about money.

 

Last time I checked, it takes money to support a family.  And not every job can be done from home.  

 

When you see citizens petitioning the government to re-open the economy, it's not because they are upset Billy Joe's Restaurant isn't serving their favorite pancakes each morning.  They are upset because Billy Joe is going to lose the business that he poured his life savings into.

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

55 minutes ago, hemma said:

I agree with eball; I guess I don't see how a home with an additional adult  that kind-of-mostly-stays-at-home, makes children safer.

 

Doesn't smell right and I still have my sense of smell.

 

Eh, I ain’t judging.  Maybe he feels if he stays home with a small family circle in LA, that’s safer than being in a building every day with 150 of his closest friends, plus slamming into people 60x a game.  

 

He may not be correct, because such circles are only as safe as the “most outgoing” person in them (ask Von Miller), but people see it different ways.

 

Personally, I’d sell my ‘nads in a heartbeat to get every caregiver coming into the residence where my mom lives tested every day.

[Process]

Tre is way too sensitive to comments he sees on the internet. He's done this before. The guy needs to realize that every fan base has idiots. And the internet is filled with trolls who feel comfortable saying stupid **** hiding behind a keyboard. Doesn't represent the group as a whole. 

 

Just ignore them...

[cd1]

2 hours ago, Putin said:

I hope he sits out a year and we win a SB without him !!!

ps - would he still get a ring ? 

 

Super Bowl - are you serious?

 

This season will be like no other ever before it.  If there are enough teams still playing, they likely will hold a "championship" type game but it would hardly compare to an actual Super Bowl.

[Billl]

31 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said:

It's in vogue to be a victim these days. 

Yeah.  For example a lot of posters on this board feel victimized by grown men they’ve never met choosing not to play football because they feel it isn’t in the best interest of their families.

[ExWNYer]

Honestly, who doesn't "put their family first"? We're hardwired as humans to do that. That said, the reason why any of these players chooses to opt out is irrelevant. They don't need fan approval. This is their right based on what was collectively bargained for between the union and the owners. If fans have a problem with it, they should take it up with the NFL rather than attacking the players. It's misplaced anger and nobody really knows these guys or their individual family situations. Will it suck if Tre opts out? Of course, but it's his right and his call to do what he feels is necessary/best. That should be the end of it. This is not a normal year and there is still a chance that this season either gets shut down or severely curtailed. Perspective and a little empathy go a long way in life.

 

GO BILLS!!!

[RaoulDuke79]

Social media makes everything worse.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

58 minutes ago, zman44 said:

Well this stupid take didn’t age well.

 

 

I actually don’t understand now, Tre.  I think the risk to your kids is very very small and you can mitigate it.

 

Very sorry for your girlfriend’s loss though, and do understand if your family situation makes you want to spend time with your mom and other older relatives you couldn’t if you football this year.  And really, it’s your decision and you don’t need to defend it.

 

Football is kinda “bigger than life” to folks, which is why you make millions to be “Take Away Tre” and I only made (at best) hundred thou’s for a pretty demanding job developing drugs and vaccines to save people’s lives - a job that required >10 years of higher education (meanwhile living on peanuts) to qualify for.  That tweet is coming from a place of privilege that Fan veneration of football enables and supports, so one might want to consider that.  Lots of loving moms and dads putting their lives on the line every day in the medical profession and my former colleagues putting on tunnel vision to work towards a vaccine.  None of them have the option to stay home, which is kind of a place some fans are coming from.

[teef]

i'm going to be kinda surprised if he opts out.  i shouldn't be, but why take it to the last minute?  i'm sure he knows by now.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I have no problem with it. I think they are all putting their family first. That will mean different things to different people. 

He is opting out after that tweet. 

 

Sounds that way

1 minute ago, teef said:

i'm going to be kinda surprised if he opts out.  i shouldn't be, but why take it to the last minute?  i'm sure he knows by now.

 

At a guess from that tweet, maybe Tre’ wants to play and his girlfriend/mom of his kids is very uncomfortable with that due to her experience losing a close family member.

28 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said:

Of course he is.  Read his twitter.  Poor me, most people support me but i'll single out a few bad ones and play victim.  It's the life of a public figure.  You're gonna get a lot of support and a few haters.  Be a man and deal with it.

 

I don’t understand why any public figure does social media.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

So is this tweet confirmation that he's opting out? "Me choosing my family..." sure sounds like it.

 

I'm telling you, this guy is on his way out of Buffalo -- unless someone talks some sense into him and makes him realize that the grass isn't greener in terms of interaction with fans on social media.

 

Throw in the Jamal Adams interactions and his comments about his worth yesterday, I think Tre is as good as gone. A shame. I think we're starting to see his success go to his head a bit.

[May Day 10]

so morons chirping him on twitter.   Right on.

[Ya Digg?]

32 minutes ago, nucci said:

Do you really care what people think about you...especially people you don't know?

Everybody does to an extent.  It's why we buy certain clothes, why some people buy a certain car, why you make a particular post on social media.  I'm not saying it's the only reason, but everyone cares what other people think about them.  For example, I'm a teacher in my "real life."  You think it doesn't upset me reading what other people are saying about teachers and education right now?  Why, because they barely made it through high school they know how to do my job and because I want my students and myself to stay safe that makes me lazy?  Do those idiotic statements keep me up at night?  No, but they definitely have an effect on me in the moment.  It's the same thing with him, he's allowed to have a reaction.

 

28 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said:

Of course he is.  Read his twitter.  Poor me, most people support me but i'll single out a few bad ones and play victim.  It's the life of a public figure.  You're gonna get a lot of support and a few haters.  Be a man and deal with it.

So to you being a man means you aren't allowed to react.  Yes he is getting a ton of love, probably 10-1 the amount of hate.  Think about how much hate he is still getting.  You're delusional if you can say that it wouldn't bother you...you're just fooling yourself if you think that.  There's a difference between playing a victim and having an angry reaction.  "Being a man" also allows you to react every once in a while

[thenorthremembers]

If Tre really means what he is saying about a game thats not bigger than life he should retire now.   His job could literally leave him with a legitimate long term brain injury which could leave his "girl" (if he decides to marry her), and his son with dealing with someone like Darryl Talley.   Sure he won't make millions of dollars, but football really is bigger than life, isnt it?

[Process]

1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

So is this tweet confirmation that he's opting out? "Me choosing my family..." sure sounds like it.

 

I'm telling you, this guy is on his way out of Buffalo -- unless someone talks some sense into him and makes him realize that the grass isn't greener in terms of interaction with fans on social media.

 

Throw in the Jamal Adams interactions and his comments about his worth yesterday, I think Tre is as good as gone. A shame. I think we're starting to see his success go to his head a bit.

Guy needs to grow up a bit for sure. Not the first time he's called out bills fans due to some comments on Twitter. 

 

Wouldn't be surprised at all if he tries to leave. 

[Negan]

Is there a practice today?  Anybody got eyes on the building to see if Tre leaves early?

[nucci]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

Everybody does to an extent.  It's why we buy certain clothes, why some people buy a certain car, why you make a particular post on social media.  I'm not saying it's the only reason, but everyone cares what other people think about them.  For example, I'm a teacher in my "real life."  You think it doesn't upset me reading what other people are saying about teachers and education right now?  Why, because they barely made it through high school they know how to do my job and because I want my students and myself to stay safe that makes me lazy?  Do those idiotic statements keep me up at night?  No, but they definitely have an effect on me in the moment.  It's the same thing with him, he's allowed to have a reaction.

 

 

I guess I'm different. I care a bit what my wife and family thinks but definitely not people I don't know. 

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

50 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Are that many people attacking him?  Most Twitter takes I see, along with posters here have been pretty respectful.  Even those who aren’t thrilled about his potential decision are being pretty tame, IMO.  
 

Head on over to the CJ Mosley takes from Jets fans if you want to see anger. 

 

God forbid they meander over to this message board. Its not unheard of...

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Process said:

Guy needs to grow up a bit for sure. Not the first time he's called out bills fans due to some comments on Twitter. 

 

Wouldn't be surprised at all if he tries to leave. 

 

All he has to do is read the commentary from fans on opt-outs from other teams to see our fanbase has been pretty chill about this.    CJ Mosley and Ja'Waun James certainly aren't getting the amount of love Tre is getting for their decisions.

[Back2Buff]

5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

If Tre really means what he is saying about a game thats not bigger than life he should retire now.   His job could literally leave him with a legitimate long term brain injury which could leave his "girl" (if he decides to marry her), and his son with dealing with someone like Darryl Talley.   Sure he won't make millions of dollars, but football really is bigger than life, isnt it?

 

Yeap, but these players somehow think COVID is an immediate death sentence.

 

The older I get, the more I just become nauseated with athletes in general. 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2020 by Back2Buff

[Stank_Nasty]

12 minutes ago, teef said:

i'm going to be kinda surprised if he opts out.  i shouldn't be, but why take it to the last minute?  i'm sure he knows by now.

to me it feels like his lady is pitching a fit and he's dragging it out.... this happens in my house routinely and i mope around as hard and pathetically as i can until she feels guilty about it and changes her mind.... its got about a 23% success rate 

[JerseyBills]

Judging by his most recent Twitter post, I'd be surprised if he plays. 

Sounds like his head is already out the door. 

It's a shame but I still respect it. 

[NeverOutNick]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Yep he will take it and still opt out. Hmmmm see how that works. This isn’t a contract leverage thing. 

Do deadline today for opt out. You really think this is about contract leverage. You know he could sign the Highest Contract in NFL History and opt out the very same meeting. 

Shoot if he still opts out after we pay him so be it. At least we have him under contract for the next 5+ years 

[thenorthremembers]

Just now, Back2Buff said:

 

Yeap, but these players someone think COVID is an immediate death sentence.

 

The older I get, the more I just become nauseated with athletes in general. 

 

 

I find myself in the same boat.   The problem I see with a lot of these guys is they were bred to be athletes.   They spend their entire high school careers playing football, going to college camps, where every little move is about trying to get a scholarship.   By the time they make it to the league they've never done anything but be an athlete.  The entitlement is out of control.  They think the league owes them something beyond their paycheck by just being there.   The truth is unless he becomes the top 1% of football players no one is going to think much about Tre White once he retires.  In truth I think he is a good player, but outside of football I could care less.   If Tre White opts out or goes to a new team, someone else will take his place.  No one is irreplaceable. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

to me it feels like his lady is pitching a fit and he's dragging it out.... this happens in my house routinely and i mope around as hard and pathetically as i can until she feels guilty about it and changes her mind.... its got about a 23% success rate 

 

That’s kind of the way I read that tweet, also.

[Billl]

7 minutes ago, nucci said:I guess I'm different. I care a bit what my wife and family thinks but definitely not people I don't know. 

...he unironically posted on a social media platform.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, Billl said:

...he unironically posted on a social media platform.

 

It is possible to participate in a social media platform without taking the responses personally, one does know this, yes?

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, nucci said:

I guess I'm different. I care a bit what my wife and family thinks but definitely not people I don't know. 

 

Likewise. I don't even care that much what my family think. I mean I try not to do things to upset them but I don't let what they think or me or their perceptions of my lifestyle affect how I live. You get one go around. Gotta do it the way you think right regardless of what others think. 

[Billl]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

I find myself in the same boat.   The problem I see with a lot of these guys is they were bred to be athletes.   They spend their entire high school careers playing football, going to college camps, where every little move is about trying to get a scholarship.   By the time they make it to the league they've never done anything but be an athlete.  The entitlement is out of control.  They think the league owes them something beyond their paycheck by just being there.   The truth is unless he becomes the top 1% of football players no one is going to think much about Tre White once he retires.  In truth I think he is a good player, but outside of football I could care less.   If Tre White opts out or goes to a new team, someone else will take his place.  No one is irreplaceable. 

These men have busted their asses for their entire lives until they’ve become better at what they do than you will ever be at anything in your life, and you’re calling THEM entitled because you feel the right to be entertained.  Wow

[Billl]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It is possible to participate in a social media platform without taking the responses personally, one does know this, yes?

Nobody said anything about taking it personally.  He said he didn’t care about what people he doesn’t know say, yet here he is responding to comments by people he doesn’t know about a media session held by a person he doesn’t know.  Clearly he does care.  
 

This thread is filled with people who feel so entitled to be entertained by a 25 year old man whom they’ve never met that they criticize him for doing what he thinks is best for his health and the well being of his family.  It’s disgusting.  

Edited August 6, 2020 by Billl