muppy Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffa...o-buffalo.html Buffalo Bills kicker Tyler Bass brings power and his ‘golden stroke’ to Buffalo Updated 1:19 PM; Today 12:37 PM Buffalo Bills kicker and former Georgia Southern kicker Tyler Bass (16). (Mike Kittrell/AL.com) "If he will stay within himself there’s nobody out there better. I promise you.”Legendary kicking coach "Doc" Spurgeon on #Bills kicker Tyler Bass. He coached All Pro Jeff Wilkins at Youngstown State & thinks Bass is even better. https://t.co/FLTuguGWFV Edited June 24, 2020 by Muppy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 I don't have anything against Haus But since the Bills spent draft capital on Bass this past draft I really hope he wins the job outright and becomes the long term answer as kicker for the Bills. Thoughts? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Muppy said: I don't have anything against Haus But since the Bills spent draft capital on Bass this past draft I really hope he wins the job outright and becomes the long term answer as kicker for the Bills. Thoughts? agree ?.draft capital means it is finally real competition for Haush money. and IMO a needed competition. Nothing against Haush, but IF we can get better...do it 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 Just now, BuffAlone said: agree ?.draft capital means it is finally real competition for Haush money. and IMO a needed competition. Nothing against Haush, but IF we can get better...do it the article held high praise for the young man I hope he brings it and leaves No doubt about who to keep, I would guess he'd be snatched out of the practice squad if he is near as good as this article supposes 1 minute ago, Steve Billieve said: He wins on all ties. It seems possible Hauska just took awhile to get back from his injury. He did seem to turn the corner. I really hope Bass wins the job for the long term replacement and then Haus doesn't get payback somewhere down the line for another team. Man would that ever suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Muppy said: I don't have anything against Haus But since the Bills spent draft capital on Bass this past draft I really hope he wins the job outright and becomes the long term answer as kicker for the Bills. Thoughts? My thoughts are cringing every time someone ends an OP with "Thoughts?" or "Discuss." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Somewhere, Haushka just threw his laptop across the room. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Happy said: Somewhere, Haushka just threw his laptop across the room. no worries...we have a legit receiving Corp now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: My thoughts are cringing every time someone ends an OP with "Thoughts?" or "Discuss." haha why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Edit: please please please Tyler unseat Hauschka Edited June 24, 2020 by delirious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 If they decide to keep Hauschka, then see if Bass can punt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Haus went crazy last year when they brought in another kicker for a look. He made like his last 12 of 13. Wouldn’t surprise me to see haus look uncuttable in preseason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: If they decide to keep Hauschka, then see if Bass can punt. Completely different mechanics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Last time the Bills drafted a kicker, it was Dustin Hopkins. As a rookie, he couldn't beat out the incumbent, was cut and went to Washington eventually. Hopkins had been hyped, too. This is a tough year to try to take Hauschka's job. Big gamble for McD to take him. McD doesn't want to be in the middle of the season and discover the kid can't hack it. On the other hand, McBeane like their guys, not inherited guys. Fun contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: Last time the Bills drafted a kicker, it was Dustin Hopkins. As a rookie, he couldn't beat out the incumbent, was cut and went to Washington eventually. Hopkins had been hyped, too. This is a tough year to try to take Hauschka's job. Big gamble for McD to take him. McD doesn't want to be in the middle of the season and discover the kid can't hack it. On the other hand, McBeane like their guys, not inherited guys. Fun contest. I like the kid and if he shows well in training camp and preseason (if) there's no reason why he can't be our kicker in the upcoming season. Though Hauschka was money in his playoff game against Houston he really had his troubles last season, in particular the Browns and Dallas game. The sense of confidence really faded on him as the regular season went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Last time the Bills drafted a kicker, it was Dustin Hopkins. As a rookie, he couldn't beat out the incumbent, was cut and went to Washington eventually. Hopkins had been hyped, too. This is a tough year to try to take Hauschka's job. Big gamble for McD to take him. McD doesn't want to be in the middle of the season and discover the kid can't hack it. On the other hand, McBeane like their guys, not inherited guys. Fun contest. And we could add Gary Anderson to the list of "but he wasn't good enough as a rookie." You are right. There is near zero patience for any kicker that is in a slump and costs a team one or more wins. How many teams cut their kicker last year after they played the Bills and they had a rough game? Three? It's tough for a rookie to be as good as they need to be the day they walk in the door and there are not enough chances to develop any faith in said rookie's talent without letting them attempt meaningful kicks. I would like to see the data on it but I'd bet New Era is one of the tougher places in the NFL to either kick FGs or punts. Assuming the competition is close, maybe they might keep both for a spell, avoid going "all in" on a rookie and delay relying on him to decide games. If the rookie can pretty much guarantee touchbacks and mitigate the need for great ST guys to cover them, it might work as a lower risk transition strategy. Let him ease into the NFL with some less significant kicks until he demonstrates he can "hack it." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills522 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Imagine drafting Steve Christie (hypothetically) in 1988, unseating Norwood in time for Super Bowl XXV.. that's what I'm rooting for outta Tyler Bass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Can we get a decent pick trading Haus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Charles Romes said: Haus went crazy last year when they brought in another kicker for a look. He made like his last 12 of 13. Wouldn’t surprise me to see haus look uncuttable in preseason. When did this happen? I remember we put in a waiver claim for the kicker we cut in preseason but when did we bring another kicker in for a tryout? But yes after that waiver claim attempt he was on fire. Was pretty obvious had we won the claim who was gonna be cut to open up a roster spot. I loved how he responded. 2 hours ago, Shaw66 said: On the other hand, McBeane like their guys, not inherited guys. I thought Haus was signed Beanes first year. Pretty sure he wasnt a Bill before that season. I see most people are rooting for the rookie. Me? I wanna see Haus have a great year. Rookies are just too unpredictable when that pressure hits. As a playoff team, would you rather have a vet or a rookie taking that kick in January down by 2 with a minute left on the clock??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: I like the kid and if he shows well in training camp and preseason (if) there's no reason why he can't be our kicker in the upcoming season. Though Hauschka was money in his playoff game against Houston he really had his troubles last season, in particular the Browns and Dallas game. The sense of confidence really faded on him as the regular season went on. Haush was good under 50 but over 50 yards he lost his range. Haush isn't a bad fall back option if Bass can't cut it but it was wise to try and take a chance on Bass as not having range in your kicking game is a big handicap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Completely different mechanics Fair enough. Then have him as a KO specialist in case Hauschka falters during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Coaches are conservative about kicking and no one knows how a kicker will do when the game is on the line until they are actually in that situation. My guess is if its anywhere close in training camp they will keep Hauschka. Possibly with the expanded roster they can keep both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 4 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: Can we get a decent pick trading Haus? Only under a concerted effort by fans. Everyone place ads on kijiji in cities that have an NFL or CFL team. 'Available for trade: one kicker'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Only under a concerted effort by fans. Everyone place ads on kijiji in cities that have an NFL or CFL team. 'Available for trade: one kicker'. If Hauschka gets beaten out and Beane still gets something for him, I truly would believe that Beane is a wizard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Bassautomatic 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Can we get past 6th round picks being “draft capital”? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Happy said: Somewhere, Haushka just threw his laptop across the room. ZOOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I think Bass has a real shot. I just looked up NCAA FG kicker percentages since 1956 and was surprised to see his 79.4% ranks tied as 81st all-time. Scrolling through that list there are a lot of guys who never made it in the NFL, but the combination of good accuracy in college plus a huge leg bodes well for Bass — gives him a leg up, if you will. Hauschka made some crucial kicks for Buffalo down the stretch last season and was clutch in the playoff loss, and I’ll admit trusting a rookie to make big kicks makes me a bit anxious, but I’d rather swing for the fences on a kicker that might be really good for a long time. I think I’ll be rooting for Bass to win that job. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I like the kid and if he shows well in training camp and preseason (if) there's no reason why he can't be our kicker in the upcoming season. Though Hauschka was money in his playoff game against Houston he really had his troubles last season, in particular the Browns and Dallas game. The sense of confidence really faded on him as the regular season went on. Actually, as the regular season progressed, Hauschka got better. Much better. He finished amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: And we could add Gary Anderson to the list of "but he wasn't good enough as a rookie." You are right. There is near zero patience for any kicker that is in a slump and costs a team one or more wins. How many teams cut their kicker last year after they played the Bills and they had a rough game? Three? It's tough for a rookie to be as good as they need to be the day they walk in the door and there are not enough chances to develop any faith in said rookie's talent without letting them attempt meaningful kicks. I would like to see the data on it but I'd bet New Era is one of the tougher places in the NFL to either kick FGs or punts. Assuming the competition is close, maybe they might keep both for a spell, avoid going "all in" on a rookie and delay relying on him to decide games. If the rookie can pretty much guarantee touchbacks and mitigate the need for great ST guys to cover them, it might work as a lower risk transition strategy. Let him ease into the NFL with some less significant kicks until he demonstrates he can "hack it." This also went through my mind given the extra spot on the active roster. I realize it's reserved for an Offensive Lineman, but in my mind it is still an extra spot. So in years past they would need to eat one of their 53 for the extra O-line but now, they can keep that extra O-line and another player....I don't know, but that could also be why they decided to roll the dice on the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Muppy said: I don't have anything against Haus But since the Bills spent draft capital on Bass this past draft I really hope he wins the job outright and becomes the long term answer as kicker for the Bills. Thoughts? Yep. Unless Bass completely falls apart in the preseason, he should win the job. You don’t spend a 6th round pick on a kicker just to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Haus has zero chance of making this team. There will be cost cutting roster moves too. Haus makes way too much money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Beast said: Actually, as the regular season progressed, Hauschka got better. Much better. He finished amazing. in 2017, he made 7/9 from 50+. the next year it was 4/7. Last year 1/5. His leg is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 The rookie will be on the practice squad. imho anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Last 6 years Hauschka has hit 88.8% of his kicks, Tyler hit 79.4% in college. Tyler can boom the ball punting though, he would be a nice emergency leg. He is headed for the practice squad esp if the league decides to expands it to 14 slots. Edited June 24, 2020 by RoyBatty is alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: in 2017, he made 7/9 from 50+. the next year it was 4/7. Last year 1/5. His leg is dead. You may be right about that, though I don't recall him coming up short on his misses. I'm just saying he was pretty good down the stretch last season. What you posted is probably the exact reason for drafting Bass. Edited June 24, 2020 by Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Can we get past 6th round picks being “draft capital”? No... I want to witness Bass' "Golden Stroke"... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff76ers Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Muppy said: I don't have anything against Haus But since the Bills spent draft capital on Bass this past draft I really hope he wins the job outright and becomes the long term answer as kicker for the Bills. Thoughts? I think Haush stays on this year as a mentor FG kicker only and have bass take on the longer stuff including kick offs. That is what I would do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Buff76ers said: I think Haush stays on this year as a mentor FG kicker only and have bass take on the longer stuff including kick offs. That is what I would do. Didnt we try the two place kickers back a few years ago, one to just do kickoffs and it was somewhat of a failure. Awfully "expensive" to have two kickers unless you put the rookie on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Happy said: Somewhere, Haushka just threw his laptop across the room. Did it land where it was supposed to?...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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