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RD 3, Pick 86: RB Zach Moss, University of Utah


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28 minutes ago, MJS said:

I think you're wrong. Almost every mock had him going in the 3rd, often higher than where he actually went. So why is your analysis more accurate than the "experts" and the actual GM who gets paid millions to do it, a GM that has been pretty successful to this point?

 

The whole "we could have gotten him a round later" is an incredibly stupid take as well. Maybe, maybe not. If he can contribute, does it ultimately matter if he was a 3rd or 4th round pick? It also is dependant on who you get in the 4th. There's so many possible permutations of how things work out. It's just a crutch for those people that need to complain about something. 

 

Last season people lost their minds because you could have taken Singletary in the 4th! Now...he was a bargain as a 3rd.

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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

This will be helpful:

 

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Pass Catching: Softer mitts and longer arms than we've come to expect from our 5-foot-10, 220 pound dudes. Adjusts really nicely to inaccurate footballs while on the run or forced to elevate and quickly transitions into a runner. Wins against linebackers and defensive backs in space to make the first guy miss and quickly get upfield. Is a great candidate for screens and checkdowns, with a modest outlook as a route runner.

 

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Like the pick.  There was a big run on RB's in round 2 and early round 3 which left the cupboard pretty bare at RB except for Moss.  That's why Beane was sweating.

 

I really wanted WR Edwards from South Carolina here, but the damn Raiders took him about 5 picks earlier.  Interesting how some teams have taken multiple WR's here in the early rounds...

 

I'm surprised how early the BC RB went (Dillon)... in the 2nd.

 

DE, RB check, check. :)

 

Now let's get a WR, CB.

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3 hours ago, Lurker said:

We just got the reincarnation of Frank Gore...!

 

So happy with this draft...

 

It sounds like he has good hands so maybe a bit of Larry Centers? 

 

Now on Gore if he does not get picked up I'd like the Bills to offer him job either as assistant coach or on training staff.

Imagine him telling a 20-something year old "I can do it, why can't you?"

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3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

Zack Moss  (Utah)

Born December 15, 1997 (age 22)

Height 5ft 9 in ; Weight 223 lb; Arms 31’ ¼”; Hands 9’ ¼”; 40 yd dash 4.65; Bench Press 19 reps; Vertical Jump 33”; 20 Yard Shuttle 4.37

 

Cousin of Santana Moss

 

College stats

Third-team AP All-American and first-team all-conference

2019: 235 carries, 1,416 yards, 6.0 ypc, 15 touchdowns; 28 receptions, 388 yards, 13.9 average, two touchdowns

 

Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tU24goTDhE

 

Obviously with number of TDs more than 1 year highlights.

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3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

I was a bit concerned about his injury history (knee) - but he came back from that with a vengeance garnering 3rd team AP All American honors. I think the Bills have likely looked into the inury and feel comfortable. Without that injury concern, this is guy is a borderline first round talent!! I thought he may come out last year itself - but he had to defer because of the injury.

 

He deferred because he wanted to finish is college degree which is a good thing if true.

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50 minutes ago, 947 said:

Moss ran 4.52 after the combine. He tweaked his hammy in one of the Combine workouts, but ran the 40 anyway. So now we know he's a good bit faster than 4.65.

 

Here's the 4.52 video:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/0OddjpJukLI

That's good news. Epanesa is reportedly also faster than his 40 time. His coach said he would have run faster at his pro day, but then the world ended...

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1 hour ago, NickelCity said:

A good interview after he was picked, by the Pac12 network. 

 

 

Ok. I ?❤️? this GUY! -and I’m comfortable enough in my leathered, wrinkled skin to profess it. He thrives on having defenders make ‘business decisions’? and now he has a 9 point chip on his shoulder! A humble, determined and mature young man who loves to bring the smack! I see our next Fan Favorite here! 

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6 hours ago, Real McNasty said:

YES and you will thank us later.

 

Obviously, the Bills FO office felt the same way. 

 

Fantastic pick.

I said it because we all knew we were going to add a RB at some point, and it was likely to be between Rounds 2-4, but people were losing their minds because we didn't take Dobbins in the 2nd. :thumbsup:

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7 hours ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

He and his family looked as though they just received the devastating news of the death of a loved one.

Would have fit perfectly with ESPNs coverage. "Zach Moss just got drafted by the Buffalo Bills, and his Gamma just passed away in a tragic Roomba-related accident.  Now this word fron Dr Fauci on the Front Line..."

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6 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I think they might be going for relentless assault followed by play action. ?‍♂️
 

That said, I really like Moss. Primarily because I’ve watched the kid level DEs in pass pro then float out into the flat. It’s infinitely better that Taylor who looks like he pretended to try blocking at times. Thing with Moss is going to be..... how aggressive can our O line be about wearing down front 7’s? 


Oh I like Moss. I just believe that this backfield is utterly bereft of speed.

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5 hours ago, Yantha said:

Gotta be honest.  I like the POSITION but not the pick, at all.  Way too high for Moss, and I personally think we could have landed him in a later round.

 

I'd have gone with WR Devin Duvernay, Texas.  Yes we have Diggs, but our other starters are over 30 and this in my opinion the WR's in round 2 were of better value.  Most of the WR talent are bon afide starting material, where Moss will never be more of a role player/backup.  Brown and Beasley are old and will start to fade, so it's very important to add youth to an aging position..  I see this as a missed opportunity.

 

? .um.. congrats, I think. You’re not only a geek, you’re a very bad one.

Thanks for playing!??

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7 hours ago, Uncle Joe said:

Shale and bale. LOL, nice typo...

Shall and Bail, as in " I Shall impose my will, as you Bail on the tackle" 

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23 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

? .um.. congrats, I think. You’re not only a geek, you’re a very bad one.

Thanks for playing!??


What a post. The dude expressed his opinion with absolutely no animosity toward anyone.

 

This response is totally uncalled for.

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7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

-Vision 

 

-contact balance 

 

the end 

Controlled violence - that describes perfectly what I saw watching his highlights.  Or Controlled Violence With Hair On Fire

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17 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


What a post. The dude expressed his opinion with absolutely no animosity toward anyone.

 

This response is totally uncalled for.

This, from our resident Dear Abbey. Yeah, YOU’RE the decorum authority..?‍♂️ 

 

But you're right, a noob coming on and blasting a late 3rd Round pick who will play immediately because adding a 10th WR is a more worthy option, rates a warm, welcoming response. In your world, anyway..

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For people complaining about a lack of dynamic speed...

 

Don't we have that with Diggs and Brown? Haven't I been hearing constant churning about how this is the new NFL and we have to be pass first with a complementary run game?

 

This is exactly the type of pick I want. We have a pair of running backs who make it harder to send out the nickel packages. No more getting stopped up middle on third and short

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7 hours ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

“Home run” ability is so overrated. Even the best backs break off really long runs for TDS what, 2 or 3 times a year? Singletary had 7 carries over 20 yards last year on 151 carries... the top running back taken in last years draft, Josh Jacobs had 8 of 20+, on 242 attempts.

 

I think Motor n’ Moss are going to be an excellent 1-2 punch.

Couldn't agree more - the whole " His 40 time is slow so he'll get caught from behind" is such a ridiculous argument.  What matters is quickness, vision, balance etc.  The number of times a RB is in an unimpeded straightline race on a football field is so laughably low - almost non-existent.

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11 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

This, from our resident Dear Abbey. Yeah, YOU’RE the decorum authority..?‍♂️ 


Never said I was...I’m also not a mod. And I’ve NEVER outright insulted someone for simply stating an opinion one time. Now if the same person goes on and on about the same thing in every thread, sure, I’ll needle them.

 

But this one was way out of line, and I hope if I did something similar that a veteran poster would have the kohones to call me out too.

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4 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Couldn't agree more - the whole " His 40 time is slow so he'll get caught from behind" is such a ridiculous argument.  What matters is quickness, vision, balance etc.  The number of times a RB is in an unimpeded straightline race on a football field is so laughably low - almost non-existent.


Yep. You don’t need a great 40 time to get 12 yards. Breakaway speed at RB is almost meaningless. 

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When we ranked the RBs that we wanted most this year a week or so ago, Moss was my #1 (based on the idea that I thought we could get him at 86). Needless to say I’m happy with the pick, especially considering a few teams reached on RBs ahead of him. 
 

This has been a very strong start to the draft. 

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Just woke up, saw this pick, and checked out his highlight video. Wow, the kid is a bowling ball. It's gonna be a fun 1-2 next year with Motor. And as an older fan, I do appreciate Moss' Thurmon-Thomas-style, been-there-before, just-flip-the-damn-ball-to-the-ref whenever he he scores a TD ... 

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