EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Billl said: If Josh had said the same thing, the thread title would be “Josh Allen shows that he’s a gamer who just wants to play anywhere, anytime, in any circumstances”. Josh Allen played at Wyoming. Josh Allen plays in Orchard Park. Josh Allen would NEVER say that, so your "what if" statement is ludicrous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Billl said: Maybe he’ll carry himself better while throwing 26 TDs and 6 INTs again next year in an empty stadium. He’s not a bad QB, he just seems to be missing the “it factor”. That quote isn’t a big deal, but when I see some QB’s demeanors, I feel far better about where we are as a franchise. I simply wouldn’t want to have a major investment in Cousins as the guy to bring home the Lombardi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, without a drought said: It's not really what he said, but ok. Dude, don't ruin a narrative with facts. People really seem to get a kick out of bashing others for no good reason. It's weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 YOU LIKE THAT?!?!?!?! YOU like that!!! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I read the actual full quote, and although it adds context, it can still be interpreted as Cousins saying he doesn’t care if the fans are in the stadium. He’s absolutely entitled to his opinion. Those of us who view that quote as sounding a bit arrogant/self-absorbed are also entitled to an opinion. Personally, I want to see people back out living their life everywhere, including attending football games. If Cousins is happy to not get booed, that’s cool too. This is much ado about nothing, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 So in other words, he wants to play for the Jaguars, Titans or Chargers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: What was he right about? EVERYTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Josh Allen played at Wyoming. Josh Allen plays in Orchard Park. Josh Allen would NEVER say that, so your "what if" statement is ludicrous. Josh is a California boy. He grew up there, he trains there and he chooses to make his home there in the offseason. But don’t let that detract from your narrative. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) I can understand why he would say that. I've been watching all of last season's Vikings games on Game Pass to get a bead on Diggs, and so I sort of end up retroactively rooting for them (if that makes any sense). And, I have to say, Cousins is one helluva frustrating QB. There are games where he is dead-on accurate, and his decision-making, reads, etc is really good. But, then there will be games where he's all over the field. He doesn't handle pressure well, and once he's out of the pocket, he's useless. I could well imagine that the crowds (especially when there are a lot of opposing team's fans, like when they hosted the Bills ?) would have a tendency to rattle him. EDIT: I can also sort of see why Diggs was so frustrated there. The play calling seemed to diminish as the season progressed, especially in regards to Diggs. Often, he would be out there only as a decoy, on very specific design plays, but the defenses would read it and only put single coverage on him. It became pretty frequent in the second half of the season where Diggs would be under single man coverage, with no chance of getting the ball thrown to him. In the last few games, you would, as often as not, see him essentially jog off the LOS. Edited April 16, 2020 by Rocky Landing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Josh is a California boy. He grew up there, he trains there and he chooses to make his home there in the offseason. But don’t let that detract from your narrative. Jack Kemp was from California as well and stayed in Western New York... so don't let that distract from your response to my narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Jack Kemp was from California as well and stayed in Western New York... so don't let that distract from your response to my narrative. I don’t know what Jack Kemp has to do with this. But did he still make his home in California when he played here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Josh Allen played at Wyoming. Josh Allen plays in Orchard Park. Josh Allen would NEVER say that, so your "what if" statement is ludicrous. His statement, like pretty much everything else about him, was perfectly bland. People choose to take perfectly innocuous comments and twist them into the narrative of their choice and pretend it means something, but it doesn’t. The same people criticizing him for this would be calling him a crybaby primadonna if he said it would suck playing in empty stadiums. He can’t win with some people. If you want to hate him because he’s milquetoast then go right ahead, but if what he said makes you clutch your pearls, then you’re just looking for a reason to criticize him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Billl said: If Josh had said the same thing, the thread title would be “Josh Allen shows that he’s a gamer who just wants to play anywhere, anytime, in any circumstances”. You really outdid yourself here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, CommonCents said: Without fans you aren’t cashing those big boy checks. Big Boy checks come from TV rights. Gate receipts are chump change. The reality of course is that the vast majority of NFL fans never see a game in person anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If Kirk Cousins said that then he is a probably not a strong enough competitor to carry his to a Super Bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 wow, lot's of steam being blown over this pretty innocuous comment by Cousins. He's responding to a question about a never been seen scenario. I guess he could have given some BS answer full of cliches etc. He gave an honest answer that I bet a ton of players would give right now if they were quoted anonymously. Every team has been boo'd at home at some point. That must be pretty awesome. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2886678-vikings-kirk-cousins-says-football-without-fans-would-kind-of-be-refreshing.amp.html I’ve never liked this guy, I don’t blame Diggs for wanting out of Minnesota. 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: BREAKING: LA Chargers trade for Kirk Cousins Also Thielen is traded to Bills to reunite with Diggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2886678-vikings-kirk-cousins-says-football-without-fans-would-kind-of-be-refreshing.amp.html I’ve never liked this guy, I don’t blame Diggs for wanting out of Minnesota. Your thread title is misleading click bait. It isn't even close to what he said. Stop making crap threads with crap titles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Quote mining is bad enough, taking things out of context to put words in their mouth and making it look like a quote is even worse. Being a gullible idiot and eating it up because it fits your narrative to hate on someone is the worst. *edit* Forgot the dishonest and willingly ignorant, who know it is out of context and choose to use it to push their narrative anyways. 23 minutes ago, Gugny said: Your thread title is misleading click bait. It isn't even close to what he said. Stop making crap threads with crap titles. He's already had to be told once by a mod to stop making ***** threads. Edited April 16, 2020 by 1ManRaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Gugny said: Your thread title is misleading click bait. It isn't even close to what he said. Stop making crap threads with crap titles. 5 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Quote mining is bad enough, taking things out of context to put words in their mouth and making it look like a quote is even worse. Being a gullible idiot and eating it up because it fits your narrative to hate on someone is the worst. He's already had to be told once by a mod to stop making ***** threads. Yet many here are eating it up regardless..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Does anybody really like Kirk Cousins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: I read the actual full quote, and although it adds context, it can still be interpreted as Cousins saying he doesn’t care if the fans are in the stadium. He’s absolutely entitled to his opinion. Those of us who view that quote as sounding a bit arrogant/self-absorbed are also entitled to an opinion. Personally, I want to see people back out living their life everywhere, including attending football games. If Cousins is happy to not get booed, that’s cool too. Anything can be interpreted a hundred different ways, especially if someone has a narrative to push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Yet many here are eating it up regardless..... It's Kirk Cousins, the QB that drives players away... it's pretty clear cut here... he's not a normal NFL QB and he's going to end up out on his ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nelius said: Does anybody really like Kirk Cousins? He has lots of fanboys here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 How about people learn to seek out and absorb the entire quote, rather than pick out a few words and decide “ Yep, that fits my personally biased narrative” ... now THAT would be truly refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Billl said: If Josh had said the same thing, the thread title would be “Josh Allen shows that he’s a gamer who just wants to play anywhere, anytime, in any circumstances”. And you'd criticize Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, SirAndrew said: Josh would have mentioned how awesome the fans are, but stated that he’s ready to play no matter what the circumstances are. I just can’t picture that quote coming from Josh in the same manner as Cousins. I love how Josh carries himself, and have never been a big fan of how Cousins carries himself. I guess I prefer a playoff game winning drive over how one carries himself. I have that luxury as a fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: He has lots of fanboys here. That’s ridiculous. Just a bunch of people pretending that he said something wrong (for whatever reason) and jumping all over him while a bunch of others point out that he didn’t actually say what he’s accused of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: I guess I prefer a playoff game winning drive over how one carries himself. I have that luxury as a fan. The Vikings are a really good football team. McD has worked miracles with this Bills team. The Vikings success is far more than just Cousins. Cousins is a decent QB, but I don’t think many of you would be happy with him if he were our starting QB. Watching a playoff game and looking at the stats is different than watching a guy QB every week. 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: That’s ridiculous. Just a bunch of people pretending that he said something wrong (for whatever reason) and jumping all over him while a bunch of others point out that he didn’t actually say what he’s accused of. Some of us just interpret the quote as being a bit out of touch (even when the quote is read in context) I can also totally see why someone wouldn’t have an issue with it. I get that, there are far bigger issues that face football teams than a little quote like that. I understand why many people aren’t bothered by it. What I can’t understand is how some people don’t see it could also be taken the wrong way. That why I made the fanboy comment, some people are really digging deep to defend the comments. I’m not saying what he said is a huge deal, I can see both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Some of us just interpret the quote as being a bit out of touch (even when the quote is read in context) I can also totally see why someone wouldn’t have an issue with it. I get that, there are far bigger issues that face football teams than a little quote like that. I understand why many people aren’t bothered by it. What I can’t understand is how some people don’t see it could also be taken the wrong way. That why I made the fanboy comment, some people are really digging deep to defend the comments. I’m not saying what he said is a huge deal, I can see both sides. Most people consider it a pretty big insult to call out people as fanboys. It means that they are such fans of a player or team that they’re not rational about them. Maybe you didn’t mean it that way, but that’s how it comes off. It’s certainly not something someone call people if they thought they were being reasonable and had a reasonable take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I don't care about Cousins one way or another. But by calling it "refreshing," it sounds like he's saying he would rather there be no fans in the stadium. And that is a very odd statement indeed. I'd be curious to see how Vikings fans are taking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) I'm sure the Vikings would find not paying Kirk Cousins' contract refreshing Edited April 16, 2020 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Yeah? Kirk Cousins said that? Well I say the NFL playing without Kirk Cousins would be refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Yet many here are eating it up regardless..... Because is feeds a narrative. 4 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: I'm sure the Vikings would find not paying Kirk Cousins' contract refreshing Really? Cos they just extended him so..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Clickbait article and clickbait thread. Cousins said it would be refreshing to play without smoke and fire. He's saying he loves the game for the game. Give me a break with the hand wringing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Yeah? Kirk Cousins said that? Well I say the NFL playing without Kirk Cousins would be refreshing. He didn't say that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 this thing is a mess. almost turned into a josh allen thread too. gross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, teef said: this thing is a mess. almost turned into a josh allen thread too. gross. ***** you man! Josh Allen would never say something like that. Where do you come off pointing fingers at such a fine young man? You should be ashamed of yourself. ***** pathetic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If this was a public press conference, I can see this same situation with some fans. "DID YOU JUST SAY YOU HATE THE FANS KIRK?!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: ***** you man! Josh Allen would never say something like that. Where do you come off pointing fingers at such a fine young man? You should be ashamed of yourself. ***** pathetic. i'm being allen shamed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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