Never NEVER Give-up Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I was surprised when I heard this - I talked to Brandon Bean at the Combine and he said Yeah This is the Year, They're gonna go for it, getting to the playoffs is not good enough . . . https://www.buffalobills.com/video/around-the-nfl-why-the-buffalo-bills-are-a-team-to-watch-in-2020-offseason 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 FA and the draft should be interesting. That was a quick video though. Not much to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Translating "going for it": Trade up for Ruggs... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 it is the time to go for it. QB on a rookie contract. Stud CB, LB, and DT on rookie contracts. No reason not to add the proper veterans NOW (only if they are the right ones) and go for it. I'd like to see Hooper and a veteran Edge (if possible) added. Keeping Spain was another big win. Just now, Lurker said: Translating "going for it": Trade up for Ruggs... wouldn't oppose that either. He seems like the total package. Speed, hands, tough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, Lurker said: Translating "going for it": Trade up for Ruggs... I thought that it meant trading for a WR as well. It could be up for one of the top guys or trading for an established guy. I think that the Bills make 1 or 2 major moves. I’d consider either of those major moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I expect at minimum the AFC title game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I thought that it meant trading for a WR as well. It could be up for one of the top guys or trading for an established guy. I think that the Bills make 1 or 2 major moves. I’d consider either of those major moves. I think Ruggs may be the guy. Beane has talked about having a Tyreek Hill-type player that can score on any given play. That might also describe Lamb (but not Jeudy), but I see Ruggs as the kind of wildcard option that Daboll loves so much... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1997WS6 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I would like to see us get Perriman and draft a WR in one of the first two rounds. Perriman has had some injury issues, but he did very well when Mike Evans was hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I thought that it meant trading for a WR as well. It could be up for one of the top guys or trading for an established guy. I think that the Bills make 1 or 2 major moves. I’d consider either of those major moves. Is Ruggs a better fit than Jeudy or Lamb in a trade-up? I doubt they could trade-up high enough for Jeudy or Lamb, but what if all 3 were available at their trade-up spot? What are your thoughts on a backup QB? Do you think they add one, or go with Barkley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 year window here where we have a QB on a cheap deal. Its important that we make a serious run at the superbowl now. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I am always the worse about thinking how good the Bills will be every year, but I truly agree that this is a go for it year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP's Voice Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 For me it's Mims or bust in this draft. I think he will be the best WR when it's all said and done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, PIZ said: Is Ruggs a better fit than Jeudy or Lamb in a trade-up? I doubt they could trade-up high enough for Jeudy or Lamb, but what if all 3 were available at their trade-up spot? What are your thoughts on a backup QB? Do you think they add one, or go with Barkley? IMO Lamb is the best possible scenario 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Is this to suggest that the last twenty years, they were NOT 'going for it'? Hmmmm...I wish they would've told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 For all those who were whining about the deficiencies of the team last year - THIS WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN - they have been building the team for 2020 since they got there. 42 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: wouldn't oppose that either. He [RUGGS] seems like the total package. Speed, hands, tough. ... injured twice in this calendar year... https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/henry-ruggs-nfl-combine-jon-ross-40-yard-dash/k4uuhfuwuj6e1sg85g37hztvr Not saying I wouldn't take him - but putting all the chips down on one guy who's popped a hamstring and gotten a concussion in the last 3 months is a little scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Is this to suggest that the last twenty years, they were NOT 'going for it'? Hmmmm...I wish they would've told me. And the last time in those 20 years where they were coming off a 10-win playoff season with a rookie-contract QB, a top 3 defense, and over $80M in cap room was...? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, Lurker said: Translating "going for it": Trade up for Ruggs... I'm no scout for certain, but I worry that he hasn't had to make alot (or any) contested catches. In his highlights he's always wide open. I don't expect this to be the norm for him in the NFL. He'll probably see more press coverage and over the top help, especially if he's moves into the #1 WR spot here. I certainly wouldn't complain if we landed him, but I'll be watching this closely if we do. Thankfully we have Beane and I trust him more than any GM we've had to date. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, Lurker said: I think Ruggs may be the guy. Beane has talked about having a Tyreek Hill-type player that can score on any given play. That might also describe Lamb (but not Jeudy), but I see Ruggs as the kind of wildcard option that Daboll loves so much... Seriously? Have you seen that dudes moves in the open field? His cuts are incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, PIZ said: Is Ruggs a better fit than Jeudy or Lamb in a trade-up? I doubt they could trade-up high enough for Jeudy or Lamb, but what if all 3 were available at their trade-up spot? What are your thoughts on a backup QB? Do you think they add one, or go with Barkley? We certainly seem to be a trade up team lately. Josh, Tremaine, Cody and Knox all cost us multiple picks. In order to move up far enough to get any receiver we wanted it would cost us a 1st next year. Such a move would be considered madness with the WR depth, although it looks like there's only going to be room to add one starter on offense with everyone returning (including coaches) so maybe Beaner has a specific guy in mind for that and he's willing to bet the farm on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, babulator said: I'm no scout for certain, but I worry that he hasn't had to make alot (or any) contested catches. In his highlights he's always wide open. I don't expect this to be the norm for him in the NFL. He'll probably see more press coverage and over the top help, especially if he's moves into the #1 WR spot here. I certainly wouldn't complain if we landed him, but I'll be watching this closely if we do. Thankfully we have Beane and I trust him more than any GM we've had to date. Go Bills! Well, using Beane's benchmark of Tyreek Hill as an example, how often is Hill open or making contested catches? Even NFL DBs are going to have problems with a 4.27 guy. That said, I do have some concerns with Ruggs' footwork in getting off the line right now. He has some things to work on, but his ceiling is certainly "going for it" worthy, IMO... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 58 minutes ago, PIZ said: Is Ruggs a better fit than Jeudy or Lamb in a trade-up? I doubt they could trade-up high enough for Jeudy or Lamb, but what if all 3 were available at their trade-up spot? What are your thoughts on a backup QB? Do you think they add one, or go with Barkley? Personally, I have Ruggs as my number 2. He’s just so explosive but I’d be good with any of them. I would like to see them add someone to go with Barkley. Barkley and Josh have a great relationship and he’s relatively inexpensive. With that being said, if the Bills believe they are a contender, this is when you invest in backup QB. If Josh is to miss a month you have to be able to play .500 without him. I would look at someone like Keenum at the right price (or Brissett if he becomes available). The Saints were paying Teddy quite a bit to be the #2 last year because their window was open. Brees goes down and Teddy goes 5-0. That kept them from a wasted year. 25 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: We certainly seem to be a trade up team lately. Josh, Tremaine, Cody and Knox all cost us multiple picks. In order to move up far enough to get any receiver we wanted it would cost us a 1st next year. Such a move would be considered madness with the WR depth, although it looks like there's only going to be room to add one starter on offense with everyone returning (including coaches) so maybe Beaner has a specific guy in mind for that and he's willing to bet the farm on it. I don’t think that’s the case at all. As an example, Tampa at 14 is probably the earliest that you’d go to. You can get there for 22 and 54 according to the draft value chart. You’d basically be paying the premium of a 4th round pick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Is this to suggest that the last twenty years, they were NOT 'going for it'? Hmmmm...I wish they would've told me. I’m certain that they -“thought”- they were trying to improve... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Trading up for a WR, especially Juedy or Lamb would be great (assuming price is right)...but I think Beanes is going to make a move to get a premiere edge rusher either via FA or trading for one, or trading up to get a guy he covets (if any). This draft is rich at WR, we can get a premiere prospect without making a big trade, but landing a good edge rusher is going to be a tougher task without making a big move IMO. So think this could indicate a more likely move for someone at EDGE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Trading up for a WR, especially Juedy or Lamb would be great (assuming price is right)...but I think Beanes is going to make a move to get a premiere edge rusher either via FA or trading for one, or trading up to get a guy he covets (if any). This draft is rich at WR, we can get a premiere prospect without making a big trade, but landing a good edge rusher is going to be a tougher task without making a big move IMO. So think this could indicate a more likely move for someone at EDGE. He’s not trading up for an edge in this draft (unless by some miracle Chase Young slides). There is no value there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s not trading up for an edge in this draft (unless by some miracle Chase Young slides). There is no value there. I could see them doing it maybe for Chaisson if he got to an acceptable cost range. And yeah, no way Young gets anywhere near a spot where Beane would spend to go get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Never NEVER Give-up said: I was surprised when I heard this - I talked to Brandon Bean at the Combine and he said Yeah This is the Year, They're gonna go for it, getting to the playoffs is not good enough . . . https://www.buffalobills.com/video/around-the-nfl-why-the-buffalo-bills-are-a-team-to-watch-in-2020-offseason need big improvement from JA and a better offense and for the defense to maintain. ...QB + continued good D. all depends on that. If Josh stays making mistakes and not scoring points and the D slips at all we could be looking at 7-9 or 8-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) This can only mean more Carolina Panther players are coming Who did we miss? 4 Edited March 13, 2020 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 What was Beane expected to say: "We won't be good enough to go for it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Love it, must be trying to swing trades for McCaffrey, Kerrigan and Kupp as we speak! Sign Conklin and Hunter Henry and our O can match our Defensive dominance 42 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This can only mean more Carolina Panther players are coming Who did we miss? 4 McCaffrey and Coach Kuechly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I have a feeling that next February there will be a Lombardi in the trophy case at 1 Bills Dr. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: McCaffrey and Coach Kuechly This ^ the only other Panthers I want to see in Buffalo. Any more than that, if I'm Pegula, I'm wrapping Beane and McDermott in brown bags and UPSing them back to Carolina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: This ^ the only other Panthers I want to see in Buffalo. Any more than that, if I'm Pegula, I'm wrapping Beane and McDermott in brown bags and UPSing them back to Carolina. Dj Moore says hello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, zevo said: Dj Moore says hello Hi Dj. Ok, you can come to Buffalo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 hours ago, BobChalmers said: And the last time in those 20 years where they were coming off a 10-win playoff season with a rookie-contract QB, a top 3 defense, and over $80M in cap room was...? Don't confuse a good argument with facts! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Is this to suggest that the last twenty years, they were NOT 'going for it'? Hmmmm...I wish they would've told me. Well, when you consider there was at least one season where they were like $40M under the cap ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I could see them doing it maybe for Chaisson if he got to an acceptable cost range. And yeah, no way Young gets anywhere near a spot where Beane would spend to go get. How about a trade for Ingakoue? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Lurker said: Translating "going for it": Trade up for Ruggs... Translation- base of the team is built- add shiny new toys in key positions through FA and the draft- 1 player isn’t putting this team over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Personally, I have Ruggs as my number 2. He’s just so explosive but I’d be good with any of them. I would like to see them add someone to go with Barkley. Barkley and Josh have a great relationship and he’s relatively inexpensive. With that being said, if the Bills believe they are a contender, this is when you invest in backup QB. If Josh is to miss a month you have to be able to play .500 without him. I would look at someone like Keenum at the right price (or Brissett if he becomes available). The Saints were paying Teddy quite a bit to be the #2 last year because their window was open. Brees goes down and Teddy goes 5-0. That kept them from a wasted year. I don’t think that’s the case at all. As an example, Tampa at 14 is probably the earliest that you’d go to. You can get there for 22 and 54 according to the draft value chart. You’d basically be paying the premium of a 4th round pick. Yes I see. We had 22nd pick 2 years ago, moved up to 16 for Tremaine and only had to give up 65th overall. I was thinking a few of these WR's might go higher. I remember being shocked at the Mike Williams, Corey Davis, John Ross picks all ahead of us a few years back. WR's are strange cats. They're high risk prospects that can look so dominant in college and so average in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 12:06 PM, Lurker said: Translating "going for it": Trade up for Ruggs... And then he brakes his foot repeatedly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I have been pointing to the 2020 season for two years...this IS the year the Bills really arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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