Greg Olsen visiting Bills, Redskins, Seahawks

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Lurker said:

So if he's an ex-player who ended his career hanging on in the second smallest NFL market, that's a good look?...

DOESNT MATTER. He already works in TV and is GOOD at it. 
 

he will keep playing because he WANTS to keep playing. 
 

Buffalo and Seattle give him the best shot at the post season. 

[MAJBobby]

7 minutes ago, Lurker said:

A lot of ex-players have made a lot of money (and even got a few gold jackets) that way...

That's now.  Not two years from now when people in the industry have forgotten his name and there are two more years worth of ex-players competing for the same jobs...

how can the forget his name when he is working in the industry Now?  

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, Lurker said:

One XFL game?    That's not even bull riding.   If he's still playing during the real season, he's not an option as an analyst for the real network positions...

Guess you do not watch NFL network much. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

35 minutes ago, Lurker said:

So if he's an ex-player who ended his career hanging on in the second smallest NFL market, that's a good look?...

We will have more prime time and more playoff games than Washington over the next couple years, especially next year.

[MAJBobby]

 

[Lurker]

16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Guess you do not watch NFL network much. 

Nope.

[LABILLBACKER]

I just don't want another Gore mentorship that results in 2-3 good games and then gone. I'd rather spend some money and sign someone like Hunter Henry. Besides there's no way Olsen chooses Josh over Russ. I don't care what the McD connection is.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, Gugny said:

I wonder if teams ever negotiate a what-if scenario "handshake deal."

 

Example:  Olsen narrows it down to one team that he really likes, but doesn't want to put his body through the rigors of an entire season if it doesn't end with some postseason action.  For the purposes of this entirely made up scenario, let's say he decides that IF he's going to play, he only wants to play for the Bills.  Would Beane be willing (or legally able) to say, "Okay, Greg … if you promise to keep yourself in playing condition on your own time/while you're in the booth - and we end up getting to (9-3) through the first 13 weeks of the season - I'll give you a contract worth "x" amount of money to sign on for our likely playoff run."

 

I think that might make a little sense if it's the team a player retired from and he already knows the HC and the system.  The Marshawn Lynch thing.

Maybe a 'Zo thing if the Bills are making a playoff run and the Injury Bug struck?

 

For a receiver who would have to learn the routes and build timing, I think it might backfire, especially if he's never played on that team.

 

 

[Reed83HOF]

34 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Edited February 14, 2020 by Reed83HOF

[Hapless Bills Fan]

35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

 

I'm having trouble seeing the original to which Allbright's responding "I think it's the first two"

[GG]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm having trouble seeing the original to which Allbright's responding "I think it's the first two"

 

Bills & Redskins

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, GG said:

Bills & Redskins

 

I personally would like us to make a play for Hooper, but I'm sure he wants a long contract with a lot guaranteed.

If Beane and Co really like Knox and Sweeney and are thinking "we need a guy who can ball for 2 years while they develop" Olsen makes sense.

[GG]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I personally would like us to make a play for Hooper, but I'm sure he wants a long contract with a lot guaranteed.

If Beane and Co really like Knox and Sweeney and are thinking "we need a guy who can ball for 2 years while they develop" Olsen makes sense.

 

That has to be the thinking

[billsfan89]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I personally would like us to make a play for Hooper, but I'm sure he wants a long contract with a lot guaranteed.

If Beane and Co really like Knox and Sweeney and are thinking "we need a guy who can ball for 2 years while they develop" Olsen makes sense.

 

Olsen makes sense as a vet stop gap depth type player to allow Knox and Sweeney a backstop in case they have some more growing pains. I wouldn't hate it as I think Olsen in a limited role could work but I worry about his health and ability to stay healthy, maybe if he is a receiving TE only and in more limited use they can keep him available easier but that's a lot to bet on. 

 

I would prefer to go on a big one year deal (in the 10 million range) to Hunter Henry instead but I think he commands a multi-year deal given the desperation of the position. I think Henry would have a big impact short term which would help Allen get another quality target while having Knox be the backup grow at a better pace for one more season before taking on the starting duties in 2021. 

 

Given the market for TE's I think Olsen is one of the better one and done options to help bridge Knox and Sweeney into a their sophomore year. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Olsen makes sense as a vet stop gap depth type player to allow Knox and Sweeney a backstop in case they have some more growing pains. I wouldn't hate it as I think Olsen in a limited role could work but I worry about his health and ability to stay healthy, maybe if he is a receiving TE only and in more limited use they can keep him available easier but that's a lot to bet on. 

 

I would prefer to go on a big one year deal (in the 10 million range) to Hunter Henry instead but I think he commands a multi-year deal given the desperation of the position. I think Henry would have a big impact short term which would help Allen get another quality target while having Knox be the backup grow at a better pace for one more season before taking on the starting duties in 2021. 

 

Given the market for TE's I think Olsen is one of the better one and done options to help bridge Knox and Sweeney into a their sophomore year. 

 

I think Henry, Hooper and maybe even Ebron will command large multi-year deals.

[without a drought]

4 hours ago, Gugny said:

I wonder if teams ever negotiate a what-if scenario "handshake deal."

 

Example:  Olsen narrows it down to one team that he really likes, but doesn't want to put his body through the rigors of an entire season if it doesn't end with some postseason action.  For the purposes of this entirely made up scenario, let's say he decides that IF he's going to play, he only wants to play for the Bills.  Would Beane be willing (or legally able) to say, "Okay, Greg … if you promise to keep yourself in playing condition on your own time/while you're in the booth - and we end up getting to (9-3) through the first 13 weeks of the season - I'll give you a contract worth "x" amount of money to sign on for our likely playoff run."

These thoughts are the kind most people keep inside their heads.

 

 

[Gugny]

Just now, without a drought said:

These thoughts are the kind most people keep inside their heads.

 

 

 

If I wrote those, I'd end up on at least three lists.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

So if he's an ex-player who ended his career hanging on in the second smallest NFL market, that's a good look?...

If it’s a winning team, Yes, it says a lot, it says he is part of a winner, everyone who follows football knows Snyder runs a sh-t show, and that the organization is not well thought of, not something to hang ones hat on as it were. 

[wppete]

Any word yet? 

[whatdrought]

I like the idea of Olsen If they’re convinced Knox and Sweeney can be the future of the position. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, wppete said:

Any word yet? 

 

F5 time

 

Note that there is a FAKE WGR550 account out there reporting that Olsen will sign with the Bills.

 

 

[Heitz]

Every time I get an NFL alert on my phone, I expect it to be this signing ?

[Magox]

Olsen makes a whole lot of sense.

 

My hunch is that the Bills believe Sweeney and Knox are promising prospects and that Olsen is an instant upgrade over Kroft.

 

And equally as important they value veteran leadership.  What better mentor for two young TE’s than a guy like Olsen?   The Bills lost Kyle Williams and now Zo and Most likely Gore.   I’m pretty sure they see that veteran leadership as a huge asset that has residual effects outside of their on-the-field play.

 

I’m guessing they are really hoping to land Olsen as am I.

[NoSaint]

4 minutes ago, Magox said:

Olsen makes a whole lot of sense.

 

My hunch is that the Bills believe Sweeney and Knox are promising prospects and that Olsen is an instant upgrade over Kroft.

 

And equally as important they value veteran leadership.  What better mentor for two young TE’s than a guy like Olsen?   The Bills lost Kyle Williams and now Zo and Most likely Gore.   I’m pretty sure they see that veteran leadership as a huge asset that has residual effects outside of their on-the-field play.

 

I’m guessing they are really hoping to land Olsen as am I.

they still have Lee Smith in the room too. 
 

it would surprise me if they cut smith and Kroft unless they are targeting a true game changer. 
 

and I’ve complained about smith for like a decade it seems 

[ALLEN1QB]

Any news?

1 hour ago, Heitz said:

Every time I get an NFL alert on my phone, I expect it to be this signing ?

How do I set that up?

[rayray808]

If we don’t land Olsen we will trade for Njoku

[transplantbillsfan]

This still hasn't happened???

 

I thought he was supposed to make his decision today?

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Lee Smiths leadership can’t be questioned....Kroft and Sweeney need to take in and really absorb how to properly execute an NFL false start and hold.

I don’t like him but his praises are sung by many as a vet mentor 

[CommonCents]

50/50 he even makes it out camp. Find leadership elsewhere, this guy wants to play but his body is toast

 

. He won’t stick around as a coach because he will make more in a booth. I don’t see the value.

 

 

[Kmart128]

5 hours ago, CommonCents said:

50/50 he even makes it out camp. Find leadership elsewhere, this guy wants to play but his body is toast

 

. He won’t stick around as a coach because he will make more in a booth. I don’t see the value.

 

 

 

I think we can get 1 solid year from him which is all we really need with Knox sitting in the wing. Olsen is perfect... Next year Knox will be ready for the starting TE position. So we really need a TE we can get one year out of, provide vet leadership, and help Knox and Sweeney grow.... he is a perfect fit. Hits all our boxes we need out of a TE

[thebandit27]

8 hours ago, rayray808 said:

If we don’t land Olsen we will trade for Njoku

Why would Cleveland make that trade?

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, Kmart128 said:

 

I think we can get 1 solid year from him which is all we really need with Knox sitting in the wing. Olsen is perfect... Next year Knox will be ready for the starting TE position. So we really need a TE we can get one year out of, provide vet leadership, and help Knox and Sweeney grow.... he is a perfect fit. Hits all our boxes we need out of a TE

 

 

Yeah, I'm not dying for it, but it would make a lot of sense, depending on the price.

[Coach Tuesday]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

Why would Cleveland make that trade?

There is talk he could be had for a late round pick this offseason.

[Pete]

So much for a Friday decision 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, CommonCents said:

50/50 he even makes it out camp. Find leadership elsewhere, this guy wants to play but his body is toast

. He won’t stick around as a coach because he will make more in a booth. I don’t see the value.

 

You do know he caught more passes for more yards last year than all of the Bills TE summed together?

He was also on the field for >80% of the offensive snaps through week 11. 

 

Concussion week 12, missed 2 games, fewer snaps when he returned. The concussion wants looking into as with any player, but what's the evidence that his body is toast?

 

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

So much for a Friday decision 

 

Oh HE'S probably made a decision.  The three teams he visited just don't know what it is yet while he tries to leverage them off each other to jack up his price.

[CommonCents]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You do know he caught more passes for more yards last year than all of the Bills TE summed together?

He was also on the field for >80% of the offensive snaps through week 11. 

 

Concussion week 12, missed 2 games, fewer snaps when he returned. The concussion wants looking into as with any player, but what's the evidence that his body is toast?

 

 

Oh HE'S probably made a decision.  The three teams he visited just don't know what it is yet while he tries to leverage them off each other to jack up his price.

Watch him play, he can’t move. He is what 35? This is the same argument McCoy supporters used last year instead of trusting what they saw. 

 

Like I said, he will have a hard time staying healthy through an entire camp. He is a good guy and I can see the appeal of signing him but not as a TE1. Same thing when they signed Kroft it’s an avoidable mistake. He also had a Jones fracture recently if I remember correctly. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

I'm with this

[Hapless Bills Fan]

27 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Watch him play, he can’t move. He is what 35? This is the same argument McCoy supporters used last year instead of trusting what they saw. 

 

Like I said, he will have a hard time staying healthy through an entire camp. He is a good guy and I can see the appeal of signing him but not as a TE1. Same thing when they signed Kroft it’s an avoidable mistake. He also had a Jones fracture recently if I remember correctly. 

 

Recently = 2017.  Cost him most of 2017 and 2018.  Seemed pretty durable in 2019. 

 

I have not watched the Carolina Panthers play, but typically guys who can't move and can't stay healthy don't turn in 8 reception, 98 yd games in week 11 or 600 yd seasons.  His snaps were cut way back after he returned from his concussion, so there's that.  Up to the Bills to evaluate.

 

Of course, as you allude, older players can fall off a cliff. 

 

I would for sure prefer they go after a healthy younger FA.  Beane showed a pattern of shopping for aging players on offense instead of young guns his first 2 years.  I had hoped it changed last season.

 

[thebandit27]

45 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

There is talk he could be had for a late round pick this offseason.

That would be one of the most Cleveland moves ever.

 

Accountant-turned-GM trades into the first round to draft an athletic TE

New GM and HC proceed to alienate said TE

Said GM and HC are fired; accountant-turned-GM reassumes power

Accountant-turned-GM hires creative, offensive-minded HC

New HC proceeds to trade young, athletic TE (the one that the organization traded into the first round to draft) away for a day 3 pick

[whatdrought]

21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm with this

I get the sentiment, but a bidding war doesn’t necessarily mean expensive.