dbfla10 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Did any one else notice how bad Milano played Saturday night. He was ran thru by Sony Michelle on several occasions, as well just simply missed some tackles. I think Bills fans overrate him a little. Guys in that position cant have that bad of a game if you expect to win in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, dbfla10 said: Did any one else notice how bad Milano played Saturday night. He was ran thru by Sony Michelle on several occasions, as well just simply missed some tackles. I think Bills fans overrate him a little. Guys in that position cant have that bad of a game if you expect to win in the playoffs. You mean like the ENTIRE Defense? They ALL has tackling issues 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markaf431 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 He has one game that he struggles and we’re overrating him? Come on. Get a grip. Bad games happen for players and teams. He didn’t have his best game, he will bounce back. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I think our LBs are talented albeit a bit raw. I wouldn’t pay Milano elite money under any circumstances though. Milano is smart, but slow and undersized. Definitely a bit overrated. I’m underwhelmed by our LBs. Edmunds will be great but as for the rest of em, I couldn’t careless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Bad lobster bisque? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Markaf431 said: He has one game that he struggles and we’re overrating him? Come on. Get a grip. Bad games happen for players and teams. He didn’t have his best game, he will bounce back. This ^^^* 1 minute ago, Sunshower said: I think our LBs are talented albeit a bit raw. I wouldn’t pay Milano elite money under any circumstances though. Milano is smart, but slow and undersized. Definitely a bit overrated. I’m underwhelmed by our LBs. Edmunds will be great but as for the rest of em, I couldn’t careless. BTW Edmunds didn’t have a good game as well , 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 So we are continuing to reach. Anyone else we need an entire dedicated thread to complain about? Defense has their second bad game of the year and now everyone sucks. Get rid of all of them and just keep Tre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sunshower said: I think our LBs are talented albeit a bit raw. I wouldn’t pay Milano elite money under any circumstances though. Milano is smart, but slow and undersized. Definitely a bit overrated. I’m underwhelmed by our LBs. Edmunds will be great but as for the rest of em, I couldn’t careless. Did you just say Milano is slow? 7 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 10 posts and the immediate contribution you want make is starting a thread to say how overrated you think Milano is? Edited December 23, 2019 by billsfan1959 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I noticed a couple of bad misses by Milano, but I like Milano and Edmunds. We need to add a couple in the off-season. We are really thin at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey13 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5th round pick is overrated because no one on the Bills Defense wanted to tackle? It's looking like a LAMP post here boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 LAMP alert! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sunshower said: I think our LBs are talented albeit a bit raw. I wouldn’t pay Milano elite money under any circumstances though. Milano is smart, but slow and undersized. Definitely a bit overrated. I’m underwhelmed by our LBs. Edmunds will be great but as for the rest of em, I couldn’t careless. Slow????????????????????????????? Have you watched him actually play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did you just say Milano is slow? Sure seems like it. Don’t ask me to gush over every Bills player. Outside of Edmunds I think we’re really weak there. Our defense is good because of coaching, not the players. Our secondary overall is fantastic but that front seven needs a facelift. I think our defense is outplaying their talent level, Bills still have lots of holes. We need another good offseason before we’re serious contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: LAMP alert! nobody plays a perfect game. Matt has done well this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Sunshower said: Sure seems like it. Don’t ask me to gush over every Bills player. Outside of Edmunds I think we’re really weak there. Our defense is good because of coaching, not the players. Our secondary overall is fantastic but that front seven needs a facelift. I think our defense is outplaying their talent level, Bills still have lots of holes. We need another good offseason before we’re serious contenders. Right right right... So just because our coaching is good, players don't have to have the skill to execute. So Milano has had a great year and career so far, not because he's good but because we have coaches who put him in the right spot. He doesn't have to actually perform, get to the hole, take on blocks, cover TE's, have ball skills, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sunshower said: Sure seems like it. Don’t ask me to gush over every Bills player. Outside of Edmunds I think we’re really weak there. Our defense is good because of coaching, not the players. Our secondary overall is fantastic but that front seven needs a facelift. I think our defense is outplaying their talent level, Bills still have lots of holes. We need another good offseason before we’re serious contenders. Well you don’t know what you’re talking about. His game is speed which is why we play nickel so often... because Edmunds and Milano have speed. So in your mind, you think McDermott is putting out a slow linebacker? 2 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Right right right... So just because our coaching is good, players don't have to have the skill to execute. So Milano has had a great year and career so far, not because he's good but because we have coaches who put him in the right spot. He doesn't have to actually perform, get to the hole, take on blocks, cover TE's, have ball skills, etc. The guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Edited December 23, 2019 by Royale with Cheese 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Well you don’t know what you’re talking about. His game is speed which is why we play nickel so often... because Edmunds and Milano have speed. So I’m your mind, you think McDermott is putting out a slow linebacker? 4.67 is not fast for a lineback Royale. milano is just slowwwwwwwwwww. How can't you see him making tackles from sideline to sideline and covering TE's and WR's?????!?!?! /sarcasm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sunshower said: Sure seems like it. Don’t ask me to gush over every Bills player. Outside of Edmunds I think we’re really weak there. Our defense is good because of coaching, not the players. Our secondary overall is fantastic but that front seven needs a facelift. I think our defense is outplaying their talent level, Bills still have lots of holes. We need another good offseason before we’re serious contenders. Not asking you to gush over anyone - just be reasonable in your critiques. Speed is not really an area in which you can reasonably or objectively criticize Milano. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, warrior9 said: Right right right... So just because our coaching is good, players don't have to have the skill to execute. So Milano has had a great year and career so far, not because he's good but because we have coaches who put him in the right spot. He doesn't have to actually perform, get to the hole, take on blocks, cover TE's, have ball skills, etc. Can you please look at things objectively? Dude, I’m a Bills fan, not a troll. Just because I’m not gushing over every Bills player like a schoolgirl doesn’t make me any less of a fan than you. Our defense is good because of coaching, not the players. Milano is a product of the system, I would not pay him big money. We have a few nice pieces like Tre White, Edmunds, Poyer and Hyde but outside of that nuclei there’s a huge talent drop. Oliver will likely be added to that group but he’s a rook. We’re a couple pieces short for a Super Bowl run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 My overall point is that Milano's poor play in a playoff like atmosphere, is an area of concern heading into the playoffs... This is just from what I saw on TV. Looking at coaches film makes me think he probably played much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Thing that gets overlooked by critics of the Bills is the youth on this team that plays regularly. Bunch of kids playing on a 10-5 team is a promising future. Edited December 23, 2019 by I am the egg man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Sometimes you don't play your best. It happens. The D will be fine. Has been for 2 years now for the most part. Edited December 23, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 If I have one complaint about the defense it’s that they give up extra yards after contact. It’s a bit nit-pickey; something that I hope improves in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Thing that gets overlooked by critics of the Bills is the youth on this team that plays regularly. Bunch of kids playing on a 10-5 team is a promising future. I technically think the Bills are like the 5 or 6 oldest team in the league. I could be wrong but thought I heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: So we are continuing to reach. Anyone else we need an entire dedicated thread to complain about? Well now that you bring it up, did anyone think to check the PSIs in the footballs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I not saying that this is all of the reason for the poor tackling but they were just not aggressive as a whole on defense!! Even the scheme! They rarely blitzed extra defenders and seem to feel that they could cover the Pats enough to keep Brady from completions. I think it set the tone for the way that they played! We are not the biggest defense so you better come and play an attacking style or you are going to get run thru or over!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, Sunshower said: I think our LBs are talented albeit a bit raw. I wouldn’t pay Milano elite money under any circumstances though. Milano is smart, but slow and undersized. Definitely a bit overrated. I’m underwhelmed by our LBs. Edmunds will be great but as for the rest of em, I couldn’t careless. Milano was stride for stride with White in coverage on a wheel route in Pats#1 and make a great defensive play to break up the pass. Slow is a really bad take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, dbfla10 said: Did any one else notice how bad Milano played Saturday night. He was ran thru by Sony Michelle on several occasions, as well just simply missed some tackles. I think Bills fans overrate him a little. Guys in that position cant have that bad of a game if you expect to win in the playoffs. Yeah, this is one of the dumbest takes yet. Congrats 21 minutes ago, Bring it said: I not saying that this is all of the reason for the poor tackling but they were just not aggressive as a whole on defense!! Even the scheme! They rarely blitzed extra defenders and seem to feel that they could cover the Pats enough to keep Brady from completions. I think it set the tone for the way that they played! We are not the biggest defense so you better come and play an attacking style or you are going to get run thru or over!! Jesus dude, they blitzed 13 times and we're beat 13 times. Stop making ***** up and do some research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: I technically think the Bills are like the 5 or 6 oldest team in the league. I could be wrong but thought I heard that. My mistake. The black and white on an internet fact spewing page knows better. Yeah, Allen, Singletary, White, Edmunds, Milano, Dawkins and others, besides all those under contract for 2-4 years now contributing are just perfunctory types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Thing that gets overlooked by critics of the Bills is the youth on this team that plays regularly. Bunch of kids playing on a 10-5 team is a promising future. My favorite post of the week. Good point. If our guys can stay healthy, and we can get them re-signed, we are built to win over the long term. Should be very interesting in a couple of years when all these young kids start entering their prime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Yeah, this is one of the dumbest takes yet. Congrats Jesus dude, they blitzed 13 times and we're beat 13 times. Stop making ***** up and do some research No I didn’t actually count the number of times that they brought more than 4 down linemen but I definitely could see the difference in aggressiveness on defense. The time of possession was heavily in New England’s favor so that could explain why as far as just being gassed in the 4th quarter? But it was nothing like the past 3 or 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Everyone on D was bad. Our LBs couldn't tackle and where out of position. Our safeties missed assignments and just bounced off runners. Wallace and Johnson were well,.....the usual Wallace and Johnson. Outside of maybe a little confidence this game meant nothing as far as position. Get ready and healthy for Houston. Go Bills!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, dbfla10 said: Did any one else notice how bad Milano played Saturday night. He was ran thru by Sony Michelle on several occasions, as well just simply missed some tackles. I think Bills fans overrate him a little. Guys in that position cant have that bad of a game if you expect to win in the playoffs. No way he is overrated he had a bad night as did the entire defense. Everyone was missing tackles and not covering their lanes. I do think though the defense is tired at this point considering the amount of big games they've had the last few weeks and work they've had to do. Additionally Milano has been a step back this year at points compared to last year. I think part of that is just him recovering from his injury and even though there may be no risk, I think he has been slightly behind and you will see a better Milano next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: My overall point is that Milano's poor play in a playoff like atmosphere, is an area of concern heading into the playoffs... This is just from what I saw on TV. Looking at coaches film makes me think he probably played much worse. If it was only Milano who had a bad game we wouldn’t have allowed 148 rushing yards and over 400 total yards of offense , Milano had a bad game BUT there’s more blame to go around then just pointing to Milano!! Edited December 23, 2019 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Perhaps there were too many distractions for the Defense from national and local media. I'm hoping they learn to keep focused on their task and not the accolades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, dbfla10 said: Did any one else notice how bad Milano played Saturday night. He was ran thru by Sony Michelle on several occasions, as well just simply missed some tackles. I think Bills fans overrate him a little. Guys in that position cant have that bad of a game if you expect to win in the playoffs. Three things to think about. ONE-Hyde - TWO-Ingram/Jackson - THREE- Michel, White, and Burkhead. He best get some rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, dbfla10 said: I technically think the Bills are like the 5 or 6 oldest team in the league. I could be wrong but thought I heard that. I don't believe that is the case at all, I believe we are one of the youngest teams in the league, but I'd have to look it up to be sure. I stand corrected. 7th oldest out of 32. https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2019-edition/ Edited December 23, 2019 by buffaloboyinATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 As to the comments about the Bills being a young team or not, the statistics may indicate otherwise, but the Bills are a young team. They have young players starting in a number of key positions, such as QB, RB, 2 of 3 LBs, all starting CBs (2 outside and slot), RT. Older vets like Gore bring up the average age. As to Milano, he and the entire Bills D had a poor game on Saturday. He's a valuable player who uses his speed in coverage and to go sideline-to-sideline against the run. He played the "viper" position in college at BC, which is a hybrid safety/LB role in Don Brown's defense (the same role that Jabril Peppers played at Michigan). 40-time aside, he plays fast and speed is part of his game. He's an integral part of our defense and will be for years to come. Objectively, our LB's, including Milano, are not thumpers and sometimes struggle against teams that can execute a power running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 We have the third most missed tackles in the NFL, frankly it surprises me given McDermott and his penchant for fundamentals. Needs to improve or we need better tacklers to beat top level teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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