shane nelson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Also, routing for the Ravens today, sounds odd, but really don't want the Pats with the # 1 seed. Does this make sense? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Some people are too worried about tie breakers and not who we want to play in the first round and the most important qualifier, who has more wins. It won't matter if Cleveland gets to 9 wins when we have 10 so let them win. I'd rather figure out scenarios to see who goes where assuming we get 1 win -somewhere- rather than having to specifically beat the Steelers. We are no longer in years past where we have to stress over long shot tiebreaker scenarios where other teams have to help us get in. No floods of $17 charity donations this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) I would also rather see Cleveland lose. They have won three in a row. If they win today, you suddenly have a 6-6 team with a 4 game winning streak, two upcoming games against Cincinnati and a tie breaker over Buffalo. Pittsburgh would be 7-5 if they win, but we still play them and I like the odds of winning that. Earlier in the year, I would have counted a game in Pittsburgh as a loss, but I do not see either Rudolph or Hodges being able to do very much against the Bills Defense. Pittsburgh beating Cleveland and then losing to Buffalo is a scenario that would officially guarantee that Buffalo finishes ahead of both. Edited December 1, 2019 by dgrochester55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, shane nelson said: Also, routing for the Ravens today, sounds odd, but really don't want the Pats with the # 1 seed. Does this make sense? Then you should be rooting for both the Ravens and Pats to lose so we can go for the top seed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I want a Pittsburgh win and Oakland win. KC could be toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 hours ago, ExWNYer said: True but I don't see them beating the Ravens twice, even if the second game is in Cleveland's house. The Brownies will have at least one more loss. I see the browns winning out. They’re hitting a stride and seem to have the ravens number. They’re the only team in the mix that concerns me since we got the titans tie breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 For those thinking about winning the division - even if the Bills went on a tear - can we have the tiebreaker against the Pats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, jeffalb3 said: Would not mind seeing Titans win the division and bills playing them, so Bills mafia could have a part 2 take over in Nashville. Only if they bring back that Kicker !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Bills will be alright for the playoffs no matter what happens today. I want to see the Steelers and the Chiefs lose as always because ***** both those teams. Throw in a Ravens-Niners slobber knocker + a Texans win tonight for a GREAT Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I don’t really care what happens in the Cle/Pit game. If the Browns win it will look nice seeing both clubs sitting on 6 wins and well back of Buffalo. I mean Cleveland would still have to vault over Tennessee which destroyed them head to head earlier this season. And I don’t think they are going undefeated the rest of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, jeffalb3 said: Would not mind seeing Titans win the division and bills playing them, so Bills mafia could have a part 2 take over in Nashville. My stomach STILL isn't right after Part 1; I'm staying home and rooting from here. That was a bleepshow like none other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, jeffalb3 said: Would not mind seeing Titans win the division and bills playing them, so Bills mafia could have a part 2 take over in Nashville. Ryan Tannehill's star turn Since stepping in as the Titans' QB1 in Week 7, Tannehill is posting career highs as a starter in win percentage (.800), completion percentage (71.01%), yards per attempt (9.25), touchdown-to-interception ratio (10:3) and passer rating (114.9). Most importantly, No. 17 has been the spark plug to an offense that's averaged 13.1 more points per game and 93.9 more total yards per game under his direction while also posting the highest red-zone percentage (92.9) in the league during that span entering Week 13. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001081837/article/ryan-tannehills-star-turn-ravens-retro-attack-browns-rebirth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: For those thinking about winning the division - even if the Bills went on a tear - can we have the tiebreaker against the Pats? you know, i always thought two team tie for the division went 1) Head to head( we would be tied) 2) Division record( we would be tied) then i thought it went to conference record, but no it goes 3) record against common opponents...think we lose this one ...Pats have wins over Eagles and Browns, we would have one over Ravens...maybe i am missing something 4) Conference record so we need to end with 3 losses, and Pats with 4...so Pats need to lose 3 in a row looks like for us to get the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I'm staying over-optimistic and hoping we can win the East. If Houston upsets NE that would be huge. If we could find a way to beat Baltimore, it becomes entirely possible we beat NE. If we win out we should take the East because an NFC loss to Philly vs hopeful NE loss to Houston. I'd rather see Cleveland beat Pgh because Stillers may throw in the towel. Josh Allen took a step forward reading the D against Dallas and that also fuels my optimism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: I'm staying over-optimistic and hoping we can win the East. If Houston upsets NE that would be huge. If we could find a way to beat Baltimore, it becomes entirely possible we beat NE. If we win out we should take the East because an NFC loss to Philly vs hopeful NE loss to Houston. as i posted above..common games comes in 3rd in tiebreakers between two clubs within the same division from the NFL website Quote If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined. Two Clubs Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: My stomach STILL isn't right after Part 1; I'm staying home and rooting from here. That was a bleepshow like none other. Well, nobody told you to jump off that elevated ramp and try to hit the table! ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Two teams are not going to catch us and knock us out of the playoffs. Right now the game that I am looking forward to is New England and Houston. I want the AFC East crown! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 For the most part the comments here have been good but it doesn't really matter how a team played in the first part of the year. The Bills are a much improved team than they were at the beginning of the year even though they started out 3-1. What matters is how a team is finishing to get into the playoffs. The Browns beat the Ravens earlier but would one expect a repeat over a team that wasn't playing very well when that game occurred? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Process said: We are going to be the 5 seed it's almost a certainty. At this point are rooting interests should be based on who we want to be the 4 seed. My choice is the colts. With that, go indi kc and ne. Yep. Indianapolis is the softest first-round matchup for us by a pretty healthy margin IMO. It would take a fortunate alignment of the stars to make that happen, but it's worth hoping for. 4 hours ago, jeffalb3 said: Would not mind seeing Titans win the division and bills playing them, so Bills mafia could have a part 2 take over in Nashville. CBS would show replays of homerun throwback 37 times during the game. I don't think I could maintain my sanity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, SNICE said: There is no scenario that would lead me to root for the pats*. Not today, not tomorrow, not gonna happen. If a Patriots regular season win gives us a better shot at winning a playoff game you wouldn't want them to win? Seems silly. Obviously if we had a realistic shot at the division it would be different, but we dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, CSBill said: I agree, I think they are the team of the current potentials we match up the best with. There is nothing about them that scares me. All the others, have concerns: Houston--Watkins, KC--their offense, Tenn--revenge, Oakland--the long trip west. I think the Colts are the best match-up for us. I think our best matchup would be the Titans. Yes, it’s a revenge game, but Tammyhill probably still has nightmares about Bills defenses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 hours ago, theRalph said: As said above, they require no help. But a tie would be best, keeping both at least 2.5 games back. Hodges has replaced Rudolph and he’s better. Hopefully they beat the snot out of each other, in any event. Hehe - absolutely true - checking this morning, a CLE-PITT tie adds another 4% to the Bills chances - up to 97% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is how I lean as well. That Cleveland schedule is SO easy. They can run the table. We’d like another loss for them. Don’t they have to play Baltimore again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Enjoying Sunday with no Bills game because they bullied the Cowboys already. Heading to the golf course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: Don’t they have to play Baltimore again? Yeah, but they can certainly win that. They smoked them in Baltimore. The Browns have plenty of talent. They were just an undisciplined mess for a while. I’d like them to get to 7 losses so that they can’t tie us. I don’t fear Pittsburgh and Hodges at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 How funny would it be if the Jets helped the Bill's again by beating Pittsburgh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: How funny would it be if the Jets helped the Bill's again by beating Pittsburgh? Just make sure you lose the last game of the season, but feel free to win any of the others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Yeah, but they can certainly win that. They smoked them in Baltimore. The Browns have plenty of talent. They were just an undisciplined mess for a while. I’d like them to get to 7 losses so that they can’t tie us. I don’t fear Pittsburgh and Hodges at all. I disagree. I think Baltimore will steamroll them next time and bear in mind that Cleveland will be missing their best player (Garrett). Baltimore is clicking on all cylinders now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: is this not a place to speculate on tie-breakers, playoff scenarios, etc...for the Bills? Cool you could have just skipped over the thread but thanks for the input ? Sorry your skin is so thin. I fully expect them to make the playoffs. I am a firm believer in making your own way, which the Bills are doing rather well at at the moment, thank you very much. At the beginning of the season I predicted we would have a record similar to what we have now. The only slip up so far in my prognostication is splitting with the NFC least. We have bested that by one now. So to conclude; if you don’t care for other’s opinions don’t go to an open forum message board. Thanks. On to Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njodogg Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 According to 538 Best case would be the follow KC over OAK TENN over IND CLE/PIT TIE Moves our playoff chances to 98% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 57 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I disagree. I think Baltimore will steamroll them next time and bear in mind that Cleveland will be missing their best player (Garrett). Baltimore is clicking on all cylinders now. I’m not saying that they will win but there isn’t a definite loss on their schedule. I think we get to 10 at this point no matter what. If they do too we both go and we go as the 6 seed. It may not matter but we’d go on the road if we ever played them (and may have to go to KC round 1). I don’t think any other WC contender can get to the 5 seed. The flip side is Cleveland may be the only other WC team that can win a playoff game. It wouldn’t be the worst thing ever if they went in and knocked off KC. I don’t hate the idea of them getting in at all as long as we are the 5 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQW87 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 13 hours ago, ganesh said: Even if Browns lose, they could still go 9-7 and the Bills could lose rest of the way and finish 9-7...At that point, Cleveland still owns the tie breaker unless there are multiple teams involved with the same record. Houston has choked on all big games. Cleveland over Pittsburgh Tennessee over Indy KC over Oakland, That will allow only Tennessee to go to 7 wins...Everyone else will be at 6 wins...that keeps the distance at 3 games. The Browns still will have to play Baltimore, This is where I'm leaning. Although Cleveland already did beat Baltimore in Baltimore. I think the Ravens are playing at a much higher level now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Not sure this is the right place, but sticking it here anyway. After the Bills provided a good bounty at +250 on Thursday , got some goofin around money for todays games. so, 1/3 unit on 4 team money line parley Bengals Skins 49ers Steelers 82-1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) If the bills cant win 2 more games they dont belong in the playoffs. I think they will win at least 3 more. Edited December 1, 2019 by artmalibu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, artmalibu said: If the bills cant win 2 more games they dont belong in the playoffs. I think they will win 3 more. They only NEED one win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: They only NEED one win If two of the raiders, steelers, titans, or colts win out 1 bills win wont get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, artmalibu said: If two of the raiders, steelers, titans, or colts win out 1 bills win wont get it done. Not correct. If the one bills win comes against the Steelers,they'd beat out all those teams with 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Not correct. If the one bills win comes against the Steelers,they'd beat out all those teams with 10. The teams I listed have 5 games left to play and have 6 wins, right? Edited December 1, 2019 by artmalibu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, artmalibu said: The teams I listed have 5 games left to play and have 6 wins, right? Correct. Titans and colts play each other, however, and the bills play the Steelers. So if the bills beat the Steelers, they're 10-6 with a tiebreaker over the Titans AND the Steelers. So again, assuming the bills only win 1 and it comes against the Steelers, they're in. Edited December 1, 2019 by Joe in Winslow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Correct. Titans and colts play each other, however, and the bills play the Steelers. So if the bills beat the Steelers, they're 10-6 with a tiebreaker over the Titans. So again, assuming the bills only win 1 and it comes against the Steelers, they're in. So, either the colts/titans and the raiders could win out and have 11 wins, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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