cage Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 This is one of my favorite clips and this exchange happened back in April. I'm sure Kiper was doing plenty of smirking last night! He also is one of the only analysts that thought Allen should be taken #1 overall 23 9 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Mel got one right! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Lucky guess. He’s not even close to as accurate as Mayock was before going to Oakland. None of these guys are always right, but Mayock’s batting avg was better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Remember that like it was yesterday. Contrary to rumours and speculation, Kiper is a good judge of college talent and footballers in general. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Blind squirrels do love juicy nuts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 You know Hell must be freezing over when Mel Kiper is the voice of reason and the Bills are 9-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Please dont take this the wrong way, I'm a JA supporter but Lets not give him a gold jacket yet.....hasn't played a playoff game or beaten the Pats. Edited November 29, 2019 by mattynh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, mattynh said: Please dont take this the wrong way, I'm a JA supporter but Lets not give him a gold jacket yet.....hasn't played a playoff game or beaten the Pats. Lamar Jackson was pathetic in the playoffs 21 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: Remember that like it was yesterday. Contrary to rumours and speculation, Kiper is a good judge of college talent and footballers in general. yes ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 People love to hate on Kiper, but he was a major Josh Allen fan going into the draft too. Pretty sure he had him as QB1. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 42 minutes ago, frogger said: Mel got one right! Mel get a ton right...more than anyone else What i like is the passion and confidence in his words while McShay ?? (who are you Mel Jr.- actually ESPN tried to make you a cheaper Mel but couldn't) sits there giggling like he has a clue. Obviously Mr. MCShay not a clue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Great point about liking one player does not mean you have to not like another. A real football fan knows this. He is correct. 1983 draft first round - Elway, Marino, Kelly were all great HoF. Blackledge, O’Brien and Eason were all average or below. I don’t recall the media hating the other three. They had years to play and prove themselves without ridicule. Today the expectations on QBs are unrealistic. The media coverage is over the top. The media has lowered their standards to the same thing that fans tweet about or spout out on forums. They should be better than that. Edited November 29, 2019 by Bob in STL 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Mel Kiper Jr. Jr. at the far right seems to believe that he's arrived and can now mock the original draft analyst. Edited November 29, 2019 by BurpleBull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) I say we just give josh the gold jacket and the Lombardi now. Why wait? Afterwords we can let him lay with our wives and the ritual will be complete. Edited November 29, 2019 by BillsFan692 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Great point about liking one player does not mean you have to not like another. A real football fan knows this. He is correct. 1983 draft first round - Elway, Marino, Kelly were all great HoF. Blackledge, O’Brien and Eason were all average or below. I don’t recall the media hating the other three. They had years to play and prove themselves without ridicule. Today the expectations on QBs are unrealistic. The media coverage is over the top. The media has lowered their standards to the same thing that fans tweet out about or out out on forums. They should be better than that. Yeah I agree, that is a popular thing these days that I find annoying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 So many people are impatient and impulsive today. Technology has given us access to more information than ever. We also are able to share our instant thoughts and emotions with the world. Those of us old enough to remember watching games before cell phones, Twitter, message boards etc can recall we just shared our thoughts with those unfortunate enough to be in the same room as us. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 35 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: You know Hell must be freezing over when Mel Kiper is the voice of reason and the Bills are 9-3 And not one snowflake on the ground in Buffalo in late November while they got snow in southern California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 the scary part for the rest of the nfl is josh is going to get even better 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Great point about liking one player does not mean you have to not like another. A real football fan knows this. He is correct. 1983 draft first round - Elway, Marino, Kelly were all great HoF. Blackledge, O’Brien and Eason were all average or below. I don’t recall the media hating the other three. They had years to play and prove themselves without ridicule. Today the expectations on QBs are unrealistic. The media coverage is over the top. The media has lowered their standards to the same thing that fans tweet out about or out out on forums. They should be better than that. Agreed. I think Darnold is good and will get better. If both were available to us on draft night, my first choice would have been Darnold. Glad we have Josh, but I think Darnold is going to work out for the Jets. Edited November 29, 2019 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 How many teams are kicking themselves for not drafting this kid? I'll bet one John Elway wishes he took him over Bradley Chubb, thank you, Lord, he didn't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplebulldog Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, mattynh said: Please dont take this the wrong way, I'm a JA supporter but Lets not give him a gold jacket yet.....hasn't played a playoff game or beaten the Pats. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: How many teams are kicking themselves for not drafting this kid? I'll bet one John Elway wishes he took him over Bradley Chubb, thank you, Lord, he didn't. Truer words may have been written, but I don’t know what those words are. seriously bad move by Elway not getting Jackson or Allen...not saying they’d be the same abs in Denver, but still. Edited November 29, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Gotta give him respect. Kiper nailed it and not afraid to stand behind his conviction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, cage said: This is one of my favorite clips and this exchange happened back in April. I'm sure Kiper was doing plenty of smirking last night! He also is one of the only analysts that thought Allen should be taken #1 overall I didn’t realize that I hated McShay until watching that. What an arrogant, smug prick. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 McShay is a hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ta111 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 40 minutes ago, Dopey said: Agreed. I think Darnold is good and will get better. If both were available to us on draft night, my first choice would have been Darnold. Glad we have Josh, but I think Darnold is going to work out for the Jets. Overall I like Darnold too, but let’s face it-Darnold can’t make the athletic plays Josh makes. He wouldn’t have been nearly as successful as Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 35 minutes ago, dubs said: I didn’t realize that I hated McShay until watching that. What an arrogant, smug prick. Is that McShay to Kiper's left (our right) ? Someone should show him this clip and then the Stephen A video from last night 1 hour ago, mattynh said: Please dont take this the wrong way, I'm a JA supporter but Lets not give him a gold jacket yet.....hasn't played a playoff game or beaten the Pats. Is there any other way to take your post, but the wrong way ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsFan692 said: I say we just give josh the gold jacket and the Lombardi now. Why wait? Afterwords we can let him lay with our wives and the ritual will be complete. I can neither like nor dislike this post. It may be the most bizarre post I've ever read. Well done, in a way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, bilzfancy said: How many teams are kicking themselves for not drafting this kid? I'll bet one John Elway wishes he took him over Bradley Chubb, thank you, Lord, he didn't. I had never really thought about the Broncos taking a QB in that draft, but in hindsight, of all people, Elway should have seen some of himself in Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Yeah, Mayock is better, but he looks like a smug idiot here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Oh my Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 The same Mel Kiper who said he’d quit ESPN if Jimmy Clausen wasn’t a successful NFL QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, mattynh said: Please dont take this the wrong way, I'm a JA supporter but Lets not give him a gold jacket yet.....hasn't played a playoff game or beaten the Pats. Nothing wrong in being excited for what may come. Better to see a guy trending upward over multiple games than a single flash in the pan. I don’t think anyone is saying he’s arrived, but are definitely thinking (and rightfully so) that good things are to come (winning a playoff game, beating New England). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Wow. I remember seeing that here last spring. Mel saw the guy we saw. A lot of people are seeing it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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