Reported: Mason Rudolph accused of using racial slur prior to brawl-Steelers deny

[Stenbar]

Blah blah blah blah

[DCbillsfan]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

Yeah...why did this not come out immediately to explain Garrett's actions?

Exactly what I'm thinking.  It took a week for this to come out.  I'm thinking BS all the way.

[eball]

The best thing Myles Garrett could have done was to not appeal the suspension, publish a written apology to Rudolph in the Pittsburgh newspaper, promise he would never do it again, and then shut his damn mouth.

 

If the NFLPA "insisted" that he appeal he should have still done the same things.  Shame on Garrett and his "team of advisors" for thinking they could win an appeal by citing a dissimilar prior incident and making unsubstantiated claims of racism.

 

Screw him and screw Browns fans who defend him.

[r00tabaga]

If untrue, and it does smell like fish, then he should be suspended further....like 2 full seasons

[wppete]

7 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Exactly what I'm thinking.  It took a week for this to come out.  I'm thinking BS all the way.

Garrett has proved he is a piece of garbage. The assault with the helmet and now the lie of a racial slur. I hope Mason Rudolph and his lawyers go after Garrett hard for this. Garrett is going. To pay up $$$$$ and maybe even assault charges? Why not? 
 

 

Does this sound like a guy who was called a racial slur and went so crazy he assaulted another person with a weapon? Not once did he say anything about Rudolph even saying one word to him. This guy is a piece of garbage. The think Rudolph is an easy target, I think they will soon find out he is not.

 

 

Edited November 21, 2019 by wppete

[r00tabaga]

"a win is a win".

 

I still can't believe he said that after the game.

Edited November 21, 2019 by r00tabaga

[Paulus]

Honestly, leveling false allegations of racism is making a bad situation worse. If that is really the case...

 

Did his agent convince him to place the race card? Idiot (if the allegations are lies).

[thebug]

So Garrett is still a d-bag! No surprise.  

[Royale with Cheese]

41 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

? ?

 

Well...I guess you could say I'm a Ritz cracker.

[Sundancer]

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

lol @ ESPN accusing someone of racist talk.

 

color me *shocked*

 

 

ESPN didn't accuse him. Garrett accused him. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

that said, the timing doesn’t really fit.  And if Garrett is lying, he should get sued and be held accountable. 

Unless was of them was mic’d Up, that is virtually impossible. Harder to prove you didn’t do something than it is to prove you did. Even if people were in earshot, Garrett could say he whispered it.

 

I feel bad for Rudolph, if he didn’t do it, because there will always be people out there who believe he did. 

 

IF it happened, it would have come out that night. 

[Bobby Hooks]

1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Unless was of them was mic’d Up, that is virtually impossible. Harder to prove you didn’t do something than it is to prove you did. Even if people were in earshot, Garrett could say he whispered it.

 

I feel bad for Rudolph, if he didn’t do it, because there will always be people out there who believe he did. 

 

IF it happened, it would have come out that night. 

 

Agreed. No way you were angry enough to beat someone with their own helmet but not angry enough to tell everyone what happened. Browns teammates are coming out saying this is the first they heard of it. 

 

If that happened to me and i'm that angry i'm telling anyone that will listen! 

[BringBackOrton]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is about to get interesting!! It’s a smart play by Garrett’s people. That’s a strong defense from them. If Mason turns around and sues him for defamation of character that’s a strong play as well. Everyone puts their strongest hand on the table and see how it plays out.

It’s a really dumb play by Garrett.

[Kirby Jackson]

54 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

 

Garrett's attorney has nothing, and, barring a revelation from someone on the field last week, simply conjured something to use in defense of his client.  I'm sure he expects a sympathetic response given the seriousness of the allegation. 

 

That it took 6 full days for this to come out is questionable at best.

 

 

 

100% agree, this is a desperation play at best. He just happened to push the button that the NFL didn’t want pushed.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

9 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

ESPN didn't accuse him. Garrett accused him. 

 

Right,  semantics. They leaped at the first opportunity to call someone a racist without any vetting.

 

[BringBackOrton]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Of course not.  But it’s hard to explain the feeling of someone calling You certain words.  Like it’s hard for someone who isn’t that background to ever get what getting called the n word or the c word can do to you.   I grew up that If you take ?, you get hit.  I think the word would be better if people did that instead of fight on social media.
 

that said, the timing doesn’t really fit.  And if Garrett is lying, he should get sued and be held accountable. 

Yeah, I agree. The world would definitely be better if people tried to assault others for using naughty words and hurting their feelings, and then those people got shot in self defense. 

[TheBrownBear]

Pouncey was so mad at Rudolph for using racist language he decided to repeatedly punch Myles Garrett in the head!!!

[RoboTronic]

Classic case of playing the race card. What next, a #metoo allegation?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Of course not.  But it’s hard to explain the feeling of someone calling You certain words.  Like it’s hard for someone who isn’t that background to ever get what getting called the n word or the c word can do to you.   I grew up that If you take ?, you get hit.  I think the word would be better if people did that instead of fight on social media.
 

that said, the timing doesn’t really fit.  And if Garrett is lying, he should get sued and be held accountable. 

Lets not forget Mulva. You can't go around calling a woman Mulva and not expect to get doinked with your own helmet. 

[badassgixxer05]

19 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

ESPN didn't accuse him. Garrett accused him. 

And ESPN is running with the bs...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Mango said:

Just got the update via ESPN. That could change things a bit in a bunch of ways. While not condoning, it would make some more sense to the sudden outburst. 

Feel free to merge with the other Garret v. Rudolph thread if need be 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28130757/during-appeal-myles-garrett-accused-mason-rudolph-using-racial-slur

 

I don't think it changes too much.  If it was part of his story immediately afterwards I would give it more credence.

 

But lets, for the sake of argument, say that it's true.  If you call me a racial slur, does that make it more justified for me to lose my cool and do something that could kill or seriously injury you than if I'm "just" shoving you in the balls with my foot and trying to rip your helmet off?

 

I would say if I'm doing something that causes you physical harm/pain that is more justification for physical defense than a "fighting word" is

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

49 minutes ago, eball said:

The best thing Myles Garrett could have done was to not appeal the suspension, publish a written apology to Rudolph in the Pittsburgh newspaper, promise he would never do it again, and then shut his damn mouth.

 

If the NFLPA "insisted" that he appeal he should have still done the same things.  Shame on Garrett and his "team of advisors" for thinking they could win an appeal by citing a dissimilar prior incident and making unsubstantiated claims of racism.

 

Screw him and screw Browns fans who defend him.

A lot of Bills fans would have done the same thing. McCoy has given a lot of evidence that he is kinda of POS, but still plenty of fans defended him. Same with Lynch.  
 

Go to a Chiefs board and see how they defend Hill. Personally, it’s kinda pathetic but it’s far from just Browns fans.

[Luka]

Even if he did, doesn't excuse violently assaulting someone with a weapon.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

As reported by ESPN. You heard it THERE first.

 

So ESPN isn’t supposed to report news?  You’re working way too hard to fault ESPN.

1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

This post seems to be making an incorrect assumption about me, just FYI.

So you’re a black man who has been called the n word?  Again, I don’t think it’s true and still not close to a reason to swing his helmet at him.  But I understand it slightly more if he did say it. Still deserves the suspension.

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Cornelius?

How dare you!!! ?

[badassgixxer05]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

So ESPN isn’t supposed to report news?  You’re working way too hard to fault ESPN.

Have you ever tuned in and watched some shows on espn? They are all about bringing race into just about every segment. Stephen A is the biggest Race torch carrier and Max is the biggest white apologist.. I tune in to watch sports, not hear about bs racist claims. But I'm a white guys so will prob take some ***** for that..

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

So ESPN isn’t supposed to report news?  You’re working way too hard to fault ESPN.

 

 

Am I?

 

They're all about digging out #racists in sports.

 

Probably why they leaped at the opportunity to be the first to report this.

 

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Am I?

 

They're all about digging out #racists in sports.

 

Probably why they leaped at the opportunity to be the first to report this.

 

1) ? racists

 

2) again, should they not report this? Did they say Rudolph was a racist?  If it turns out Garrett just made this up, he is going to look even worse.  It literally was facts from a hearing. 

[SoCal Deek]

What the? Being called a name is no excuse for hitting someone! Didn’t we all learn that in kindergarten?

[DrDawkinstein]

5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Am I?

 

They're all about digging out #racists in sports.

 

Probably why they leaped at the opportunity to be the first to report this.

 

 

I dont think ESPN (the company) cares so much about outing racists, as much as they care that racism and accusations of racism drive clicks. As illustrated by the linking to their page in the OP, and everyone who has clicked on the link since entering this thread.

[C.Biscuit97]

4 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said:

Have you ever tuned in and watched some shows on espn? They are all about bringing race into just about every segment. Stephen A is the biggest Race torch carrier and Max is the biggest white apologist.. I tune in to watch sports, not hear about bs racist claims. But I'm a white guys so will prob take some ***** for that..

You mean like Jason Whitlock and Clay Travis on Fox?  And Steven A Smith just called an Uncle Tom so is he a racist or Uncle Tom?  
 

if someone is a racist, call them out. But if they aren’t, and Rudolph never said it, Garrett deserves to be sued. Pretty simple. 

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

What the? Being called a name is no excuse for hitting someone! Didn’t we all learn that in kindergarten?

Call a black person the n word and see how it goes. 
 

again, probably didn’t happen.  But I’m all for people who use slurs to get punched in their mouth without punishment. 

[LeviF]

 

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You mean like Jason Whitlock and Clay Travis on Fox?  And Steven A Smith just called an Uncle Tom so is he a racist or Uncle Tom?  
 

if someone is a racist, call them out. But if they aren’t, and Rudolph never said it, Garrett deserves to be sued. Pretty simple. 

 

Stephen A is out for views and clicks, just like the rest of them.

 

Which is demonstrated by TO calling Kellerman more black than Stephen A on national TV

[SoCal Deek]

Hey Miles! When you’re in a hole....STOP DIGGING!

[Kirby Jackson]

29 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

It’s a really dumb play by Garrett.

What’s a better play? He’s suspended indefinitely and vilified by everyone. If he plays this card he will get some people on his side. If it turns out he’s lying he was already the bad guy. He just becomes a little worse. No one will be able to prove one way or another what really happened. It will always be finger pointing. Garrett tried to drag some people back to his side and he will get some. 
 

Additionally, he can accuse the NFL of racism if this suspension drags on too long. He can talk about how they supported racism, yada, yada, yada. He backs them into a corner somewhat. 

[Punching Bag]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Mason should sue him for defamation if he’s making it up. That’s something that will be tied to his reputation now. 

 

Interesting that he brought it up AFTER he Mason choose to not press charges.

 

I have seen lots of comments in real life where one person took it as racist and the other didn't and it was due to point of view and backgrounds.

We even have a team in NFL using a [former?] racial slur where some say it isn't including some in racial group compensated and others still say it is.

[C.Biscuit97]

3 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

 

Stephen A is out for views and clicks, just like the rest of them.

 

Which is demonstrated by TO calling Kellerman more black than Stephen A on national TV

I think he used to be all about that but I actually think he gives pretty solid, unbiased opinion. I just find it hilarious that some poster calls him a racist while the idiot TO calls him an Uncle Tom. 
 

so is he a racist or a sellout? 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

Additionally, he can accuse the NFL of racism if this suspension drags on too long. He can talk about how they supported racism, yada, yada, yada. He backs them into a corner somewhat. 

 

Most truthful thing in this thread. Kudos.

 

[row_33]

7 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

 

Stephen A is out for views and clicks, just like the rest of them.

 

Which is demonstrated by TO calling Kellerman more black than Stephen A on national TV

 

how could i doubt any 5-alarm fire story broken by Stephen?

 

[whatdrought]

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

What’s a better play? He’s suspended indefinitely and vilified by everyone. If he plays this card he will get some people on his side. If it turns out he’s lying he was already the bad guy. He just becomes a little worse. No one will be able to prove one way or another what really happened. It will always be finger pointing. Garrett tried to drag some people back to his side and he will get some. 
 

Additionally, he can accuse the NFL of racism if this suspension drags on too long. He can talk about how they supported racism, yada, yada, yada. He backs them into a corner somewhat. 

 

It's disgusting how likely accurate this is and how it would probably be pretty damn effective...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

13 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

1) ? racists

 

2) again, should they not report this? Did they say Rudolph was a racist?  If it turns out Garrett just made this up, he is going to look even worse.  It literally was facts from a hearing. 

 

I think the problem for Rudolph, is that how can he ever prove that he didn't?  It was just them rolling around on the ground at first.

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think the problem for Rudolph, is that how can he ever prove that he didn't?  It was just them rolling around on the ground at first.

Very true.  I would like to assume his current and past teammates speak up for him.