artmalibu Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I dont understand why some want to make a decision for next year now.... Isnt preseason used to decide what players should be kept or cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I personally like what I saw from croom last year so I'd be good with him and knox getting all the time personally. Is croom eligible to be active now? 28 minutes ago, CSBill said: I don’t think Croom is on the team anymore??? He was ir'd and eligible to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Daboll has absolutely no clue what to do or how to use any of these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Is there a role for a TE in the Bills offense? There hasn’t been such a role for the last 40 years. Why start now? We’ve been doing just fine playing with 10 men! Obviously you are exaggerating to try to make impact since K-Gun was NOT named after Kelly but the TE Keith McKeller but it does the opposite and makes people dismiss it as foolish. As my debate teacher taught me: exaggeration is a tool of those unprepared in battle of wits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Knox was also hurt through Ota and he was making plays Apparently all injuries are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, TigerJ said: Kroft is a pretty well rounded TE. That means he can block and he can catch the ball. He's not the blocker that Lee Smith is supposed to be, but then Lee Smith has had a ton of penalties. In the near term, I would probably give Kroft some of the reps that Lee Smith has been getting to see if he can block well enough AND cut down some on the penalties Buffalo has been giving up with Smith. Long term, I don't see any particular reason to keep him longer than his contract creates an uncomfortable dead cap burden. How many penalties per ton? Are you counting the ones where zebras were blind and are you one who complains about them as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Kroft is decent when healthy, however, I think Knox is already better and had a much higher ceiling. Right now I would be dressing Knox, Kroft and Sweeney. Seen enough of Lee Smith, when we need a “big blocking set” put out Sweeney or another tackle or both. Next year I bring in another TE and move on from Kroft. Knox’s development and Kroft’s injuries make him way overpaid for his contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I think if they know he's really still somewhat hurt, then they will bring him back next season. If he's 100% and this is as good as he is, then maybe not. Even then, may keep one more season as may not be worth the cap hit to cut him and bring in a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gugny said: Is it against the rules to have two TE on the field at the same time? Only if one of them is lined up inline wearing an eligible number between 84 and 86. Edited November 16, 2019 by Rock'em Sock'em 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, CSBill said: I don’t think Croom is on the team anymore??? Injured reserve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, Rock'em Sock'em said: Only if one of them is lined up inline wearing an eligible number between 84 and 86. I think that rule is negated by the Pegulas owning two sports franchises in the same city, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I want to see more Sweeney. Knox clearly looks like a potentially elite player if he does what he’s supposed to do. Lee Smith should be the designated blocking TE but truthfully by the start of next year I feel Fort Knox will be such a powerhouse that the other guys just won’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Sunshower said: I want to see more Sweeney. Knox clearly looks like a potentially elite player if he does what he’s supposed to do. Lee Smith should be the designated blocking TE but truthfully by the start of next year I feel Fort Knox will be such a powerhouse that the other guys just won’t matter. It's Hard Knocks, geeez I have to fix everything around here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Hell yes. They should be in double TE set most of the game with Knox and Kroft. Bench Lee Smith. From that grouping they can line up in almost any formation they want. They can split out either TE, they can go 5 wide with Singletary split out. They can still go deep with Brown and run all kinds of pick and combo routes underneath. I wanted Jesse James from Pittsburgh in FA and of course I wanted Hockenson or Fant instead of Oliver. But Kroft can be capable and Knox looks like he could be a beast. I really don't understand the salary cap comments. The Bills will be in top 5 teams with cap money to spend. Lawson will be coming off the books. They have no one to pay. They are set to target one or two big time fee agents (OLB and DE) and still have a net loss of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...have to agree.......think the youngsters Knox & Sweeney will develop nicely....either Kroft or Smith will be gone..... Smith imo is a goner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I like him but he has had a problem staying healthy and Knox has a similar skillset but a higher ceiling. I think he just lost out being hurt. Very much at risk of being cut after the season. at this point, i have to agree with his trajectory. Did not give up hope for him to turn it up a bit yet still. Love TEs to a fault. need Josh to feel the same : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 hours ago, I am the egg man said: .....and duct taping his ankles and feet. with a Dodge shadow and Red Green ? you cannot lose ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Smith imo is a goner ...WAY too much yellow IMO...agree...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...WAY too much yellow IMO...agree...... Had 4 in one game!!! 12 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: at this point, i have to agree with his trajectory. Did not give up hope for him to turn it up a bit yet still. Love TEs to a fault. need Josh to feel the same : ) I wanna see Knox run some seam routes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: with a Dodge shadow and Red Green ? you cannot lose ! Dodge shadows are the cars of Greek Gods. and never was fan of the Kroft signing. He had one decent year. Hopefully, we move after the year since Knox has shown himself to be a player. We should still be looking to upgrade and run more 2 TE sets. its weird how behind the times the Bills are. Most good qbs have a good TE. They are matchup nightmares. But nah, we’re good with Derek Fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Had 4 in one game!!! I wanna see Knox run some seam routes! ....nauseates the hell out of me how historically we've been smoked in the seam by opposing TE's......teams faced with "3rd and long" continually smoked our azz for 1st downs....they laughed at "3rd and long".....how about the Pats with the Gronk/Hernandez duo and their damage?....will never understand how Post Kelly era the QB spot at #1 and the TE spot at #2 were the most neglected..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Real McCoy said: Too soon?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Had 4 in one game!!! I wanna see Knox run some seam routes! good call Coach. cuz his height Allen can overthrow him a bit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, 3rdand12 said: good call Coach. cuz his height Allen can overthrow him a bit lol Haha no doubt but hey ya gotta try it ? 14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....nauseates the hell out of me how historically we've been smoked in the seam by opposing TE's......teams faced with "3rd and long" continually smoked our azz for 1st downs....they laughed at "3rd and long".....how about the Pats with the Gronk/Hernandez duo and their damage?....will never understand how Post Kelly era the QB spot at #1 and the TE spot at #2 were the most neglected..... I feel your pain- the seam then draws coverage towards the middle and opens the edges. It is so frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dodge shadows are the cars of Greek Gods. and never was fan of the Kroft signing. He had one decent year. Hopefully, we move after the year since Knox has shown himself to be a player. We should still be looking to upgrade and run more 2 TE sets. its weird how behind the times the Bills are. Most good qbs have a good TE. They are matchup nightmares. But nah, we’re good with Derek Fine. Derek Fine lol I was not thrilled with Kroft signing either. he was coming off another injury. Perhaps Bills were quite surprised to get Knox? and then the bonus in Sweeny (my boy ) The hate on Lee Smith is justifiable of course. But he does tear it up when blocking downfield.. risk reward. and he has caught he ball actually. who figured ? i am not high on Kroft, but he can change my mind down the stretch 4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Haha no doubt but hey ya gotta try it ? I feel your pain- the seam then draws coverage towards the middle and opens the edges. It is so frustrating. The only reason they brought in "bad knees" Clay. run that seam, get downfield. Great weapon as a play call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Derek Fine lol I was not thrilled with Kroft signing either. he was coming off another injury. Perhaps Bills were quite surprised to get Knox? and then the bonus in Sweeny (my boy ) The hate on Lee Smith is justifiable of course. But he does tear it up when blocking downfield.. risk reward. and he has caught he ball actually. who figured ? i am not high on Kroft, but he can change my mind down the stretch The only reason they brought in "bad knees" Clay. run that seam, get downfield. Great weapon as a play call Omg I forgot about that dude already- for a reason- thanks a lot lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Omg I forgot about that dude already- for a reason- thanks a lot lol i noted it to remind all of us. How much better off the Bills are these days with talent, and smarter contracts : ) cheers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Derek Fine lol I was not thrilled with Kroft signing either. he was coming off another injury. Perhaps Bills were quite surprised to get Knox? and then the bonus in Sweeny (my boy ) The hate on Lee Smith is justifiable of course. But he does tear it up when blocking downfield.. risk reward. and he has caught he ball actually. who figured ? i am not high on Kroft, but he can change my mind down the stretch The only reason they brought in "bad knees" Clay. run that seam, get downfield. Great weapon as a play call Smith is a terrible TE but I heard the reasoning for him is he essentially another o linemen and could play in a pinch. Personally, I’m fine with moving in from him but he’s here at least the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: i noted it to remind all of us. How much better off the Bills are these days with talent, and smarter contracts : ) cheers ! Thanks my friend- agreed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Kroft seems like the kind of player that the Pats* would pick up for cheap, and turn into a reasonably productive TE for a season, or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Buh-bye Tyler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Yeah, bench warmer from the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Is there a role for any TE on this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: Is there a role for any TE on this team? Sometimes I feel WR/TE are totally irrelevant for us, especially TE position. It is quite noticeable how many TE's at other teams make big catches and get big targets...but we just never notice/see it. I would love to be a TE focused team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 man we really could have used that money towards another veteran WR Beane's FA signings have been rather underwhelming so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Kroft has been useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, OZBILLS said: Sometimes I feel WR/TE are totally irrelevant for us, especially TE position. It is quite noticeable how many TE's at other teams make big catches and get big targets...but we just never notice/see it. I would love to be a TE focused team Well you have to have a talented TE or your team is like majority of teams a TE that catches 3-4 passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmd07 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) Being a BIlls fan in Baltimore just watch the Ravens. They have TE all over the place. One always gets open and they get huge plays almost every series. We get one huge play a game. To make things worse their running OC is the one we ran out of town Edited November 17, 2019 by billsfanmd07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I was never a fan of the Kroft signing from the get go. just another player added to an ever growing list of players we've added where you can't wait to get rid of. But theres been a role for him this whole time. Its just that he hasn't done anything with it. Knox has been a nice surprise & has stood out from the pack because cmon, it really isn't that hard to do. All you need to do is catch a few passes & you're at the top of the list given the group we have. But Knox has been a godsend. Krofts been out there the past few games but you wouldn't even know it. And only reason we know Smith is out there is from the referee calling his name over & over again. Like others have said, I'd much rather cut back on Smith's snaps & have Sweeney play. He's got good hands & shows a bit of toughness to him. He at the very least isn't invisible out there & will make a play or 2. See what you have with him & move on from Kroft asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobby Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Since Kroft came back and Lee got more snaps, our offense has taken a major step back. Knox was making big plays early in the year (and dropping big plays...but he's a rookie). Even sweeney was doing well. Those two veteran tight ends are actually hurting the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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