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12 hours ago, Nelius said:

Regardless of how much he may have been in the wrong or not, blasting a player's fine on a screen like that is ridiculously absurd. So unprofessional. It reminds me of some fresh out of college sales floors I was on in the early 2000's, and those were horrible, doomed to fail organizations just like the Jets. I wonder if they let the well-behaved Jets tap a keg at 4:30 on Fridays.

Hey, it's Jordan Belfort!

 

12 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Cue the bootlickers that will defend the team on this one

Why can't it be both?  Player does the wrong thing, followed by team doing same?  There's plenty of blame for everybody here....

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40 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Some of the people in this thread seem like they'd be terrible bosses (I say this as a boss). 


Re: Gase, we're talking about a guy who dumped Jay Ajayi to the Eagles for speaking out, and in 10 games including three in the post season, Ajayi ran for 584 yards and at 5.3 ypc rate. In three postseason games, he ran for 184 yards at a 4.4 ypc rate (and had 9 carries for 57 yards in the SB). He got hurt the next season, but that's an unpredictable thing. Regardless, he was excellent for a SB-winning team. 


Gase also dumped Jordan Phillips and got rid of Jarvis Landry for not being "Gase culture" guys. Phillips has been excellent for the Bills, and Larvis, while unlikeable, is a great player. 

 

Gase seems like a Queeg-like automaton when he speaks, and the history of his actions back that assessment up. 

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I mean its kind of ridiculous that he is on IR and has to be there at certain times at the facility for treatments but it is what it is. He has virtually no responsibility right now and still is getting paid, so he should at least be able to handle that no matter what he personally thinks of it.

 

Had to take your wife out for lunch? No you didn't. Could have done breakfast or dinner instead. Just an excuse.

 

An emergency at the house might be OK but I'm pretty sure you should have called the team before just skipping out on your only responsibility to pick up a sizeable game check.

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1 hour ago, Protocal69 said:

Fans make me ill to think about. Players lay it on the line every game but the fans basically want the players to play for free and then kiss the owners ass while said owner is overcharging fans and in the Bills case putting an terrible product on the field. 
 

People who compare players on a football team to being like employees are their crumb ass job is a joke. Get well Quincy

Play for free? 

 

Its a job, like any other job. Doesn't matter what it is.   These atheletes are paid well, period.   This guy is getting paid 25k a day, 365.  He misses two days, unexcused.  Hes docked his pay.  Its not excessive.  Its business. 

 

These players need to grow up and keep their complaints out of social media.  

 

Kids follow these players and they blow up the media with curses and complete disrespect for the league and team that gave them everything. 

 

It makes ME ill. 

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7 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

He's on IR.   The same as long-term disability or maternity leave for the rest of us.   

 

How many companies do you know that fine (and embarrass) L-T disability employees for not going to the doctor or calling in every morning to report that they're still alive?

 

 

That’s absolutely not the same. 
 

he has a job where his work place has rights in the contract to be involved in his treatment. 
 

it’s like he was given alternate tasks to perform at work to accommodate for an injury and he decided he didn’t need to do those tasks or report that he wouldn’t be showing up.

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11 hours ago, NoSaint said:

That’s absolutely not the same. 
 

he has a job where his work place has rights in the contract to be involved in his treatment. 
 

it’s like he was given alternate tasks to perform at work to accommodate for an injury and he decided he didn’t need to do those tasks or report that he wouldn’t be showing up.

Fining him is fining him.  Putting it on a big screen for all to see is the act of a moron who thinks he knows how to motivate people but is actually horrible at that.  I hope the Jets keep Gase forever.

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17 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

Fans make me ill to think about. Players lay it on the line every game but the fans basically want the players to play for free and then kiss the owners ass while said owner is overcharging fans and in the Bills case putting an terrible product on the field. 
 

People who compare players on a football team to being like employees are their crumb ass job is a joke. Get well Quincy

 

Then no offense, but what on earth are you doing posting on a fan football blog site?  Do you enjoy feeling ill or something?

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One of my first jobs I had when I was a kid, the owners would put "shame" notes on a board right by the time clock for everyone to see. You left the outside lights on, didn't stock the milk, etc. That's what this seems like. Bush league

 

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17 hours ago, Questionable said:

Play for free? 

 

Its a job, like any other job. Doesn't matter what it is.   These atheletes are paid well, period.   This guy is getting paid 25k a day, 365.  He misses two days, unexcused.  Hes docked his pay.  Its not excessive.  Its business. 

 

These players need to grow up and keep their complaints out of social media.  

 

Kids follow these players and they blow up the media with curses and complete disrespect for the league and team that gave them everything. 

 

It makes ME ill. 

 

Hey, the president does this pretty much everyday so why can't athletes? 

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14 hours ago, NoSaint said:

That’s absolutely not the same. 
 

he has a job where his work place has rights in the contract to be involved in his treatment. 
 

it’s like he was given alternate tasks to perform at work to accommodate for an injury and he decided he didn’t need to do those tasks or report that he wouldn’t be showing up.

 

What is it about NFL contract language that makes players the equivalent of meat to be tenderized any way the team likes?

 

Did the guy screw up?   Sure.   Did he commit a heinous crime, drink baby's blood, irreparibly hurt or embarass his team?    Nope.   

 

So what other company in any other field would fine -- and then publically call out that indescretion to his fellow workers -- the way Gase did here?  

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2 hours ago, dhg said:

One of my first jobs I had when I was a kid, the owners would put "shame" notes on a board right by the time clock for everyone to see. You left the outside lights on, didn't stock the milk, etc. That's what this seems like. Bush league

 

I’d guess Enuwa makes more in one day than those employees made in a year. To the underpaid it’s an insult, to a guy making millions it should be a wake up call. Want the money or not?

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12 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

What is it about NFL contract language that makes players the equivalent of meat to be tenderized any way the team likes?

 

Did the guy screw up?   Sure.   Did he commit a heinous crime, drink baby's blood, irreparibly hurt or embarass his team?    Nope.   

 

So what other company in any other field would fine -- and then publically call out that indescretion to his fellow workers -- the way Gase did here?  


maybe a little dramatic?

 

dude skipped two mandatory appointments and got fined 1 days pay (if you split his annual income 365 ways). Do you think that’s unfair?

 

they post their penalties. Not my favorite approach but we’re really at the did he drink baby’s blood to deserve that? 
 

if I ditched out of work unannounced a few times in a week I’d imagine my paycheck would be docked and HR might send out a reminder of policy email to the team. I’m not saying the jets were ideal here but Quincy stands out more to me.

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On 11/14/2019 at 10:12 PM, Questionable said:

Enough is enough with these players taking to social media crying because they got punished, fined, benched, etc. 

 

Its beyond ridiculous, and unprofessional. 

 

This guy takes a 4 day weekend, doesn't show up to work, doesn't call off to tell work he won't be there, then gets mad he's been penalized?   In the real world you'd be fired buddy. 

 

The league needs to come down hard on these social media posts.  

 

1st offense - mandatory 4 game suspension without pay. 

 

2nd offense - mandatory 8 game suspension without pay. 

 

3rd offense - mandatory 16 game suspension without pay and team rights to terminate players contract without repercussions. 

 

Enough is enough all ready. 

 

 

You’re right,   Enough is enough, stop siding with the multi billion dollar corporate monopoly, nuthin but luv, but come on man.... the NFL is not your friend.

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13 hours ago, Lurker said:

What is it about NFL contract language that makes players the equivalent of meat to be tenderized any way the team likes?

 

Did the guy screw up?   Sure.   Did he commit a heinous crime, drink baby's blood, irreparibly hurt or embarass his team?    Nope.   

 

So what other company in any other field would fine -- and then publically call out that indescretion to his fellow workers -- the way Gase did here?  


 

Look - I don’t agree with the approach of posting fines, but Gase is not alone in thinking that works to motivate.  It calls the attention of the player and the team - that you can’t do this and it shows that there is no favorites - everyone is treated the same.

 

Since Gase has been doing this from his Miami days - why is Quincy surprised and mad that it was posted?  He was not alone or singled out.  Other fines were posted and I am sure this is one of the ways of notifying the players because they have to get notification of all fines.  
 

This blow-up is not about the fine - Quincy screwed up (not Gase) - he did not follow mandatory protocol for missing time - protocols that every team have in place about notifications of absence.  This is about the players having a lack of respect in general for the organization and this being a rallying point.

 

The fact is this was minor and created a huge issue in that locker room - just think if he had been on a team like the Pats.  Those players if they think a storm is coming into the area - end up staying at the hotel at the field because Belicheck does not accept any reason for being late.  He has fined and suspended and even cut guys that were a few minutes late during crazy blizzards.  They did a piece about this where the players basically tell their spouse to get a company to shovel them out or start a generator for them  - they will be at practice.

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49 minutes ago, TonyBeets said:

How many of you can miss work without any notice without any sort of consequence?

Obviously it’s not the fact he was fined that is the issue. It’s that he felt like putting his organization on blast publically about it and his it’s handled.  After osemele did the same thing. And Enunwa says a bunch of other players calling it BS. That’s a lack of respect for the Jets leadership and a culture of distrust. 

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23 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

You’re right,   Enough is enough, stop siding with the multi billion dollar corporate monopoly, nuthin but luv, but come on man.... the NFL is not your friend.

 

Your argument undermines your credibility on this issue. All you've communicated is that you are incapable of forming an objective and impartial opinion because of your extreme bias against one side due to factors that are immaterial to the discussion.

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51 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

 

Your argument undermines your credibility on this issue. All you've communicated is that you are incapable of forming an objective and impartial opinion because of your extreme bias against one side due to factors that are immaterial to the discussion.

Interestingly narrow view,  Enjoy today’s game, we will win this one, hopefully by a large margin.

 

Go, Bills Employees!!!!

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6 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Interestingly narrow view,  Enjoy today’s game, we will win this one, hopefully by a large margin.

 

Go, Bills Employees!!!!

 

That doesn't even make sense, but whatever. I didn't expect anything resembling a coherent thought from the likes of you.

 

Enjoy the game.

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On 11/15/2019 at 6:36 AM, Watkins101 said:

Freedom of speech?

Pretty clear you don't understand the legal definition or Constitutional intent behind that portion of the Bill of Rights if you're using it for justification here.

 

Regardless of the fact "freedom of speech" is Constitutionally protected, your job can place legally enforceable restrictions on what you publicly divulge.

 

I suppose the plays for the next game can just be put out on Facebook too?

Or the code to an encryption system for a financial institution?

 

None of those are protected under the Constitution if the job you've chosen to accept restricts its release.

 

And besides - it shouldn't HAVE to be restricted. He should ask in advance for the time when you're making millions/per year (or less - doesn't really matter, but that amount of $ does increase the expectation of execution) and quit being a B word afterward.

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18 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

 

That doesn't even make sense, but whatever. I didn't expect anything resembling a coherent thought from the likes of you.

 

Enjoy the game.

Ooh, the likes of me, now that says a lot about the likes of you,

 

Enjoy the game as well, 

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