123719bwiqrb Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: So, who was New England's signature win? Buffalo? No, it was probably the Rammies, last year. Until the King is toppled, they deserve respect. We just need to hide in the weeds until January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Stack wins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The attention will come for you if they can beat Dallas on turkey day. I for one don't really care about the media attention. I just want to win. Oh and sure up that run D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: They also played New England and Philadelphia. Right. You are what your record says you are. ...incredibly sad but expected......6-2 and we get the chorus of "Monday Mourning" ...same DAMN chorus if we were 2-6.......go figure....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Stack wins This. To quote a scholar and philosopher of some renown: "Eat that W." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Who cares, really ? There wasn’t much talk about the NE Pats in the late 80’s / early 90’s except for what a joke of a franchise they were. If the Bills had beat the Pats there would be a lot more talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Why is it amazing? Bills haven’t beaten anyone and even the bad teams they face they can’t impose their will and dominate. Haven’t won a playoff game since before anyone knew the name Monica Lewinsky. Until proven otherwise, people are going to assume we finish 8-8 and why shouldn’t they? ...so she rebuffed you and now we get to weather your usual drivel?....oh joy....SMH...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, Virgil said: It’s the same reason to me we aren’t favored to beat the 2-6 Browns really. We haven’t made anyone believe we can beat a competent team. some are calling the Bills a total fraud, which is harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, wppete said: Everyone is sleeping on the Bills. Exactly how we like it. Just Keep winning! That’s all that matters. Flying low and under the radar so nobody see's us coming. Thanks OP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 A lot of their own fans feel the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: After all the seasons of futility, this organization would need more than just one signature won to reclaim respectibility. I would think the opposite. After over 15 years of being irrelevant, simply making it to the playoffs should be a big story. Next year the expectation should go up. Truthfully we aren't covered because we are a small market team and our core players are still relatively unknown. If we make it to a wildcard spot that will start to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Six of the Patriots 9 games have been against the same teams the Bills have played. The Bills put up the same numbers defensively against those teams as the Pats did, the Bills shut down the high flying Pats offense, and the Pats were being hailed, until last night, as perhaps the best defense in the history of football. How can the Bills get the same results as the Pats against the same teams and not even be mentioned? Because we are the Bills, it’s that simple, two decades of no results, made the playoffs because of another teams output, kinda taints ones image. Yeah yeah yeah, blah blah blah, makes no difference until we get back to the playoffs under our own steam, and then we gotta win a playoff game, no if ands or buts. We have zero track record for being formidable as a football team. That’s why. I’ve been a fan for a long time, and I see it plain as day. Next year we will need to make the playoffs again and win playoff games, that’s all that counts, if we do that, and have an offense that can score three four tds every single game, then and only then do we become part of the picture/conversation. Jmo. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I would think the opposite. After over 15 years of being irrelevant, simply making it to the playoffs should be a big story. Next year the expectation should go up. Truthfully we aren't covered because we are a small market team and our core players are still relatively unknown. If we make it to a wildcard spot that will start to change. they did get to the playoffs two years ago forgotten or dismissed already by fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Six of the Patriots 9 games have been against the same teams the Bills have played. The Bills put up the same numbers defensively against those teams as the Pats did, the Bills shut down the high flying Pats offense, and the Pats were being hailed, until last night, as perhaps the best defense in the history of football. How can the Bills get the same results as the Pats against the same teams and not even be mentioned? Patriots get mentioned because they have dominated the league for 20 years and have the greatest coach and QB of all time. They have crushed their opponents compared to the Bills. Here are the Bills defensive results compared to how others have fared against the same teams. Jets. On average the Jets have scored 12 points per game. Bills allowed 16 - Below avg defensive performance Giants. On average giants opponents scored 20 points a game. Bills allowed 14 . Above avg. defensive performance Bengals. On average Bengals opponents scored 16 points a game. Bills allowed 17. Average defensive performance Patriots. On average Patriots have scored 30 points a game. Bills allowed 16. Above average defensive performance best game of year for the defense Titans. On average Titans have scored 19 points a game. Bills allowed 7. Above average defensive performance. At this stage, I ranked the Bills ahead of the Chiefs as the second best team in the AFC because the defense was performing at a high level Dolphins. The exposure game. On average Dolphins have scored 13 points a game. Bills allowed 21 Below average defensive performance Eagles . On average Eagles have scored 25 points a game. Bills allowed 31. Below average defensive performance. Redskins. On average the Redskins have scored 9 points a game. Bills Allowed 12. Slightly above average performance. The body of work the last three games (3/8 of total played) for the defense is below average. For the season as a whole the performance is slightly above average. Slightly above average is not bad. Its also not great. I would call it a slightly above average defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I think he was referring this season... I think in the eyes of the national media they look further back when doling out respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Seven-N-Nine said: I think in the eyes of the national media they look further back when doling out respect. i would expect that about 99% of fans would know this, but on here you never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, row_33 said: some are calling the Bills a total fraud, which is harsh 24 minutes ago, row_33 said: some are calling the Bills a total fraud, which is harsh ....well Terry has chimed in....... Terry Bradshaw says Buffalo is 'bad football team' but Bills don't care what people think Ryan C Miller, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle Published 9:49 p.m. ET Nov. 3, 2019 | Updated 1:34 p.m. ET Nov. 4, 2019 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/11/03/terry-bradshaw-says-buffalo-bills-bad-football-team-micah-hyde-doesnt-care-strength-of-schedule/4152507002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The Bills are not being ignored https://www.forbes.com/sites/curtisrush/2019/11/03/buffalo-bills-might-be-most-flawed-6-2-team-youve-ever-seen/ the most flawed 6-2 team you’ve ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Listening to the Dan Patrick Show this AM and he was bashing Josh Allen BIG TIME. Said he is not a starting caliber NFL QB and that he is holding the Buffalo Offense back. One of the other guys seemed to stick up for Josh and blamed Dabols play calling but Dan wasn't having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mark92 said: Listening to the Dan Patrick Show this AM and he was bashing Josh Allen BIG TIME. Said he is not a starting caliber NFL QB and that he is holding the Buffalo Offense back. One of the other guys seemed to stick up for Josh and blamed Dabols play calling but Dan wasn't having it. I guarantee you that Dan Patrick has not watched a full Bills game this year. He just looks at the stats and talks nonesense. Bottom line is 6 - 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 This phenomena of the national media ignoring the Bills has been going on since the AFL/NFL merger. The only time the Bills were covered fairly was during the Superbowl runs when we were beating the snot out of everybody. We start kicking A out of all comers.. like the Ravens and the Cowboys, then media coverage will pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, row_33 said: they did get to the playoffs two years ago forgotten or dismissed already by fans? Probably both! Every year a few lousy teams make it to the playoffs and get bounced in the first game. Who really thinks much of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Bills are on their way to Cleveland with a 6-2 record. Sunday evening they will most likely be 7-2 or 6-3. No matter what the sportswriters say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 The media is very fast to ponce after a loss, If you want coverage then the Bills need to stop winning these freaking games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: I just took a look at the stats. Bills are 6-2, as we all know. Bills are 3rd best in yards per game defense, behind the Pats and 49ers, and 3rd best in points per game defense, behind the 49ers and Pats, and NO ONE is talking about the Bills. Small market team, no sex appeal, no big-name stars, nothing that makes the Bills interesting except that their defense is great and they're winning. That's not enough to make them worth covering, I guess. If they beat the Browns, they're a game behind the Pats in the division, and no one is interested SF has plenty of sex appeal! I'm still staying outside the city limits though. ? I hear you though. Last night on SNF they mentioned the opposing QBs against the Pats this year have a combined for a total of 10 wins. Didn't bother mentioning Josh has 6 of them. God forbid. 1 hour ago, uticaclub said: Our strength of victory is .180. Did we set it up that way? Are the Pats and Niners making apologies? 1 hour ago, ngbills said: Because we haven't done it yet. When your best win is against a TEN team that has since benched its QB its not going to impress many. All 5 other wins are teams that have won 5 games combined and 3 of those 5 were versus each other... We're 6-2 and trending towards a playoff berth by only Week 9. When was the last time a Bills team can say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mark92 said: Listening to the Dan Patrick Show this AM and he was bashing Josh Allen BIG TIME. Said he is not a starting caliber NFL QB and that he is holding the Buffalo Offense back. One of the other guys seemed to stick up for Josh and blamed Dabols play calling but Dan wasn't having it. The Patriots pass defense has a 48 passer rating. Allen had a 24 rating against them. Take away that game, against the best pass defense in the league, and Allen's passer rating is 92. That is definitely starter caliber. Unless Tom Brady (93) isn't starter quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Bills are on their way to Cleveland with a 6-2 record. Sunday evening they will most likely be 7-2 or 6-3. No matter what the sportswriters say. The Bills are going to be 10-2 or 9-3 on Thanksgiving in front of a national audience. Beat the Cowboys and the sportswriters will still be saying the Bills only beat the Cowboys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, FUTURIST said: The Bills are going to be 10-2 or 9-3 on Thanksgiving in front of a national audience. Beat the Cowboys and the sportswriters will still be saying the Bills only beat the Cowboys. you mean you THINK or HOPE they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: Small market team, no sex appeal, no big-name stars, have beat no one... Fixed. Until they look like a playoff team, they won't be treated as such by anyone but the fan base... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: I just took a look at the stats. Bills are 6-2, as we all know. Bills are 3rd best in yards per game defense, behind the Pats and 49ers, and 3rd best in points per game defense, behind the 49ers and Pats, and NO ONE is talking about the Bills. Small market team, no sex appeal, no big-name stars, nothing that makes the Bills interesting except that their defense is great and they're winning. That's not enough to make them worth covering, I guess. If they beat the Browns, they're a game behind the Pats in the division, and no one is interested What publications/broadcasts are you getting your info from? What would you like to hear and how often do you need to hear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: you mean you THINK or HOPE they are Bills are 6-2 with Cleveland, Denver (at home) and Miami and Dallas. They are going to win 3 of those 4 if you asked me. I say they win all 4. 10-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Still not considered a big star for casual fans around the league. He might be the only guy on D a lot of people could name. Yeah, doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I thought it was something to do with small market team, but they talk alot about browns. I think our players and coaches give mundane press conferences don't do anything sexy and they all think we are not as good as our record says. They won't say it as they will look like fools right now, but once we lose couple games they be all out saying "I told you so". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Do The Reich Thing said: You can bet your ass that if we lose to the Browns they’ll be all over it. if the 2-6 Browns beat the 6-2 Bills they should be all over it. It will help confirm what many believe after watching our last few games. 11 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: The Bills are going to be 10-2 or 9-3 on Thanksgiving in front of a national audience. Beat the Cowboys and the sportswriters will still be saying the Bills only beat the Cowboys. If we are 11-2 or 10-3 after beating the Cowboys, I highly doubt our season will be discounted. That's the type of win we would need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, klos63 said: if the 2-6 Browns beat the 6-2 Bills they should be all over it. It will help confirm what many believe after watching our last few games. If bills lose to a bad team or winning team they will look bad either way at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: So, who was New England's signature win? Buffalo? The six wins that put Lombardi trophy’s in their case. Are you seriously saying the Bills should be on the same level as the Patriots when it comes to National respect? I hate the ***** Patriots but please, get real. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, billsherd said: If bills lose to a bad team or winning team they will look bad either way at this point. Losing isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, klos63 said: What publications/broadcasts are you getting your info from? What would you like to hear and how often do you need to hear it? Fair questions. I don't get any info from the national media. I get it here, and follow links. And I don't really care about the coverage all that much. What is most important is that it tells me not to believe what they tell us about the teams they DO talk about. For example, I mentioned this earlier in the thread and no one has talked about it. There have been stories in recent weeks (not after the Ravens game) about the Patriots having the best defense of all time. People in the national media were actually saying that. The Patriots have played the same teams the Bills have, the Bills defense has done as well against those teams as the Pats have, so logic would say that the Bills have one of the best defenses of all time, too. No one believes that about the Bills (I don't either), but the national media was actually selling it about the Patriots. Simply put, the quality of the crap the national media give us about pro football is crappy. Crappy crap. It's just talk, and it has very little to do with reality. They talk about Brady like he's God, and his passer rating 1s 18th in the league, one ahead of Gardiner Minshew. There's simply no objectivity at all in the reporting, and yet people watch it and believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Who cares? We are 6-2 and not a finished product yet- the trajectory is up and media outlets are nothing but noise and fodder. What matters is the 12th man/woman on Sunday! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Are you seriously saying the Bills should be on the same level as the Patriots when it comes to National respect? Well they should be on the same level so far as the caliber of their defense. The Bills and Pats have played the same teams and put up the same defensive numbers; Belichick is praised as a genius and no one even mentions the Bills. I can make the arguments against the Bills as well as you, but when the stats are so compelling, the Bills should at least be in the conversation among rational people. The sports media want to be respected as journalists, but they're just a big hype machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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