Bills (1-0) at Jets (0-1) Postgame thread

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, PastaJoe said:

Bills and Jets both showed they’re not wildcard contenders.

Anyone who watches the first game of the season and makes proclamations like this clearly has not watched many seasons of football.

[billsbackto81]

28 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I'm wondering if Allen wasn't throwing to Knox(?)on that play, and because he was held, that's why Knox wasn't in position to make a play.   That's why Allen was certain of the PI.

Quite honestly I’m sick and tired of hearing from all the media saying the only reason we came back and won was because Mosely went out injured. BS!!

 

Was he stifling Darnold the entire game and locking up his WRs? No our D was. He had a gift pick 6 and deflected a ball he had his back to. Josh showed the goods when it counted. Not Darnold, not Mosely, not Gregg Williams. 

 

Will we ever get credit instead of hearing it was what the other team did wrong?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, billsbackto81 said:

Quite honestly I’m sick and tired of hearing from all the media saying the only reason we came back and won was because Mosely went out injured. BS!!

 

Was he stifling Darnold the entire game and locking up his WRs? No our D was. He had a gift pick 6 and deflected a ball he had his back to. Josh showed the goods when it counted. Not Darnold, not Mosely, not Gregg Williams. 

 

Will we ever get credit instead of hearing it was what the other team did wrong?

 

Keep winning

 

[billsbackto81]

Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Keep winning

 

Guess so. Sooner or later the excuses run out, right?

[Kelly the Dog]

2 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Quite honestly I’m sick and tired of hearing from all the media saying the only reason we came back and won was because Mosely went out injured. BS!!

 

Was he stifling Darnold the entire game and locking up his WRs? No our D was. He had a gift pick 6 and deflected a ball he had his back to. Josh showed the goods when it counted. Not Darnold, not Mosely, not Gregg Williams. 

 

Will we ever get credit instead of hearing it was what the other team did wrong?

I will have to watch the game again but Mosley made a fantastic play on the pass breakup in the endzone. Did nothing at all on his TD (in fact he looked slow to react). He was pretty good the rest of the time he was in but the Bills were moving the ball with short passes the entire time he was in, and not even trying to run. When he was out, Singletarty ran four times total. Sure, maybe he would have made a difference but he was not dominating at all.

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Quite honestly I’m sick and tired of hearing from all the media saying the only reason we came back and won was because Mosely went out injured. BS!!

 

Was he stifling Darnold the entire game and locking up his WRs? No our D was. He had a gift pick 6 and deflected a ball he had his back to. Josh showed the goods when it counted. Not Darnold, not Mosely, not Gregg Williams. 

 

Will we ever get credit instead of hearing it was what the other team did wrong?

A similar game was Bills at Houston last year. Bills D shut down Watson almost the whole game, Allen was doing pretty well ... then Allen got hurt, Peterman threw a pick 6, Watson threw the game winning TD, it was over. Might be off on the specifics but I remember thinking we had that game if only Allen hadn’t gotten hurt.

[Boca BIlls]

4 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Quite honestly I’m sick and tired of hearing from all the media saying the only reason we came back and won was because Mosely went out injured. BS!!

 

Was he stifling Darnold the entire game and locking up his WRs? No our D was. He had a gift pick 6 and deflected a ball he had his back to. Josh showed the goods when it counted. Not Darnold, not Mosely, not Gregg Williams. 

 

Will we ever get credit instead of hearing it was what the other team did wrong?

Don't matter what they say, Bills are 1-0 baby!

[Adam]

6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Keep winning

 

 

9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Anyone who watches the first game of the season and makes proclamations like this clearly has not watched many seasons of football.

Agreed on keep winning. Mosely going out opened up an opportunity. We took advantage of it.

 

It hasn't put us in the playoffs by any means. But this was a big game- looks on paper like a split, and we stole the road game. It would be nice to make the playoffs, but I'm hoping to see more of the unexpected positives I saw from Allen today. I was happier with that than the win itself

[YoloinOhio]

Matt Barkley’s twitter stays undefeated 

 

 

 

[Stank_Nasty]

I’m in Jamaica and late to the party @teef, has @ScottLaw had and thoughts on the D today? 

 

Or maybe im off. Maybe it’s not scott that’s always saying the defense is overrated. Please correct me if I’m wrong 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Stank_Nasty

[YoloinOhio]

 

[jkeerie]

18 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Quite honestly I’m sick and tired of hearing from all the media saying the only reason we came back and won was because Mosely went out injured. BS!!

 

Was he stifling Darnold the entire game and locking up his WRs? No our D was. He had a gift pick 6 and deflected a ball he had his back to. Josh showed the goods when it counted. Not Darnold, not Mosely, not Gregg Williams. 

 

Will we ever get credit instead of hearing it was what the other team did wrong?

I'm not sure why you quoted my post in making your comment.   My post was about a PI call.  It doesn't appear germane to your comment. 

BTW...I do agree with your sentiment regarding the media and their reluctance to give the Bills any credit for winning a game they could have easily lost.

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Defense was great today.... Edmunds was excellent. Hopefully they continue to play like that consistently throughout the year.

Did you enjoy the once in 100 comeback win? 

 

I personally ran around the whole resort giving high fives..... I can tell what I didnt do.... point out everything bad that happened and the reasons why we were so lucky. 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Stank_Nasty

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[billsbackto81]

7 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I'm not sure why you quoted my post in making your comment.   My post was about a PI call.  It doesn't appear germane to your comment. 

BTW...I do agree with your sentiment regarding the media and their reluctance to give the Bills any credit for winning a game they could have easily lost.

Sorry dude. Meant to quote the post on top of yours by vincec.

 

That post inquired if Mosley was alright after his injury.

[Ralonzo]

8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Defense was great today.... Edmunds was excellent. Hopefully they continue to play like that consistently throughout the year.

 

Bell did his damage in the passing game against Milano and Lorax. Edmunds was in his jersey.

[Kmart128]

4 hours ago, stevewin said:

This article says teams lose 97.3% of the time when turnover differential 4 or more since 2005.  Crazy

 

https://www.boydsbets.com/handicapping-nfl-turnover-differential/

 

Turn over differential was 3 today. Jets had a turnover because of the fumble by the backward lateral on last play of the game that was recovered by Trent Murphy.

Edited September 9, 2019 by Kmart128

[Billsfansinceday1]

We dodged a bullet for sure but 3 of the turnovers were fluky.  I think we can minimize the turnovers and if we do, we have the nucleus of a very good team.  I loved the fact that they never quit and were able to complete a comeback late in the game.  That kind of thing has been a rarity for quite some time.

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, Kmart128 said:

 

Turn over differential was 3 today. Jets had a turnover because of the fumble by the backward lateral on last place of the game that was recovered by Trent Murphy.

And yet it is the equivalent of a four plus turnover differential because it happened in that way at that time. 

[Royale with Cheese]

https://nypost.com/2019/09/08/same-old-jets-pain-has-them-already-searching-for-answers/

 

[Ralonzo]

1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said:

And yet it is the equivalent of a four plus turnover differential because it happened in that way at that time. 

 

And yet it isn't because the fumbled snap was on 4th down which would have been turnover-on-downs anyway.

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Bell did his damage in the passing game against Milano and Lorax. Edmunds was in his jersey.

Thought Milano struggled vs. Bell. Bell shut me up, didn’t think he’d look that good after all that time off

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:

 

And yet it isn't because the fumbled snap was on 4th down which would have been turnover-on-downs anyway.

It's still a turnover though because he dropped it and couldn't get the first down because of the drop. The same way an INT on fourth is still a turnover. 

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

You met Rachel?!

I met her at Hammer's Lot last year. She was alright. Aaron Williams came over and was asking if I was trying to hit on her.

 

Also met Micah Hyde's wife, Amanda. She was super cool. She and Rachel have become major contributors in the ketchup ceremony.

[Captain Caveman]

Best part of this game (aside from being 1-0) for me has to be my Gregg Williams schadenfraude. 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Captain Caveman

[gobills1212]

4 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

    I didn’t pipe in during the game threads as I was entertaining.

    I’m calling BS on all you “ Fair Weather” fans throwing this Offense under the bus before the game was over.

     Shameful!!!!!

    This was ostensibly a fifth preseason game for the O which has been almost completely rebuilt from last year. 

    NFL games and seasons are Marathons, not sprints. Kelly and Crew had absolute 58 minute stinkers, with multiple turnovers and still pulled them out.

    I Billieved the whole game !!!!!!!

    

Right? They sounded like jets fans do now ready to draft a new qb next year. Wwaaayyyy too over the top. Its embarrassing.  Then that ********* fellow... i felt like he had no one to watch the game w bc no one wld listen to his vitching so he had to do it there. That or for some reason he enjoyed trolling more than watching the game. Either way, it was plain sad

[Warcodered]

 

 

I think a pretty good sign of which team is better is that these highlights are almost exclusively about one team.

[dakrider]

Defense really won the game for Bills.  Jets only got 6 points on 4 turnovers?  Offense was Jekyll and Hyde.  They made some good plays but defense picked up the slack.
Good thing was Bills won, bad thing was it was only the Jets and a good team would likely have put the Bills away in this one.  

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

I think a pretty good sign of which team is better is that these highlights are almost exclusively about one team.

Yeah, it's clear who had the better team. It was the Bills vs themselves and CJ Mosley.

[Warcodered]

I didn't see that celebration between Allen and Brown before. ?

[Ralonzo]

33 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

It's still a turnover though because he dropped it and couldn't get the first down because of the drop. The same way an INT on fourth is still a turnover. 

 

If you're going to argue that the end-of-game turnover is meaningless, then understand even if the Bills fall on that one and recover, the Jets still get the ball because downs. If you're going to discount the one then do it for both. It's -3 however you want to reckon it.

[jkeerie]

49 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Sorry dude. Meant to quote the post on top of yours by vincec.

 

That post inquired if Mosley was alright after his injury.

Got it.

[Royale with Cheese]

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/twitter_reacts_to_disastrous_start_for_bills_qb_josh_allen/s1_12680_29943335

 

I'd say Francesa isn't a fan of Allen.

 

 

[Kelly the Dog]

6 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

If you're going to argue that the end-of-game turnover is meaningless, then understand even if the Bills fall on that one and recover, the Jets still get the ball because downs. If you're going to discount the one then do it for both. It's -3 however you want to reckon it.

The point is only that it had zero effect on the game. None. Four turnovers over the course of a game has an enormous affect. More than three. It was much, much more of a four turnover game than a three turnover game because the one that made it three had zero affect. And I don't mean that if the other team didn't capitalize it may have had no effect. That's not the same thing. It could not have had an affect of the game because of how and when it happened. 

Edited September 9, 2019 by Kelly the Dog

[Mat68]

Fix the untimely TO and mistakes Buffalo's offense will be good.  The Bill's controlled the game.  The jets couldn't find a rythem and Buffalo moved up and down the field.  

[BillsFan4]

 

 

listening to Gase’s post game press conference, the way he talks about the game and the offense/defense he sounds more like the offensive coordinator than the head coach. 

[bopper2]

Francesca is a tool.

[Doc]

23 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I didn't see that celebration between Allen and Brown before. ?

 

Looks similar to the one he did with Shady.

 

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/twitter_reacts_to_disastrous_start_for_bills_qb_josh_allen/s1_12680_29943335

 

I'd say Francesa isn't a fan of Allen.

 

 

 

That dinosaur is still around?  Thought he'd be oil by now.

[CincyBillsFan]

A few thoughts about this game:

 

*  The 1st 3 quarters seemed like a weird dream to me.  On the one hand the Bills were actually moving the ball & on most of his passes Allen was throwing accurate darts.  There were moments when everything we hoped we would see with Allen & the offense was coming true.  But then you had 4 bizzare TO's that completely messed things up.  IMO only the 1st fumble was on Allen the other 3 were a combination of fluke & bad luck.  Hell, Darnold had more balls batted at the line into the air without suffering an INT.  And even when Allen put us in FG range with a nice run we had the taunting call that snuffed out that drive.  It was like an invisible force field of bad Karma once we reached the Jets 35 yard line.  Maybe Thad Brown had a Bills voodoo doll he was stabbing! 

 

*  While the Offensive troubles were going on the defense played magnificently.  But like a lot of games over the last 3 years it was looking like no matter how well the defense played the offense would screw it up and we would lose a close game in which the D largely dominated the opposition.  That we were only down 6 - 0 at the half was astonishing. 

 

*  Then the 3rd quarter got even weirder.  The defense softened and the offense yielded a safety to compliment the pick six and the Bills ran ONLY one offensive play through the first 12 minutes of the 3rd quarter!  Down 16 - 0 most of us were thinking a final score of 23 - 0 or maybe 30 - 7.

 

*  This is where the difference in this Bills team versus others materialized.  The offense would catch fire and on their next 3 possessions score 17 unanswered points.  Allen would get blisteringly hot completing 8/10 passes for over 100 yards & a TD.  Singleterry would show game breaking moves and the Bills O-line would demonstrate that they are a much better unit then last year.  Throw in some clutch receiving by Brown, Sweeney & Singleterry and the Bills EARNED the comeback win with a 4th quarter Offensive explosion.

 

*  In response the Bills defense smothered the Jets.

 

*  IMO Allen's TD pass was under-thrown by design.  John Brown is a PRO and when he was streaking down the sideline knowing that he was being single covered HE EXPECTED to get the EXACT pass that Allen gave him.  That's why that play looked so smooth.  Brown, Beasley & Singleterry are going to have some big games going forward.

 

*  And for the record I agree with those who say that despite the score we outplayed the Jets for most of the game.  Had Allen not lost that fumble on the 1st drive I believe we may have won the game going away.