HOUSE Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Spectrum News The former UB quarterback deserves a year to sit and learn By grif Aug 26, 2019, 1:00pm EDT Following the 2019 NFL Draft and post-undrafted free-agent signing period, yours truly declared that former University at Buffalo quarterback Tyree Jackson was one of four UDFAs with the best chance to make the Buffalo Bills’ roster—either due to positional need or ability. In said article, I wrote that, despite Jackson’s lack of polish at the position, he was physically similar to Josh Allen and deserved to be developed as the team’s third quarterback. At the time, I think most fans of the team would have agreed with me. However, with three straight “subpar” preseason outings, many have all but given up on the young man’s development and aren’t even willing to sign him to the team’s practice squad. I’m here to tell them that they’re wrong. If it seems like Jackson's overwhelmed to start his pro career, that was a completely foreseen development. Coming out of a smaller college like UB, Jackson was not afforded the same type of development and adversity offered to similar peers like Missouri’s Drew Lock or Duke’s Daniel Jones. UB Head Coach Lance Leipold runs an aggressive yet simplistic passing attack that is designed to compete in the MAC conference not, say, the SEC. That level of competition also cuts both ways—MAC defenses don’t nearly reach the same level of complexity of the Power 5 conferences, let alone the NFL, leaving Jackson unprepared and unable to diagnose more complex coverages. The fact that the former junior was a developmental prospect at best was not a secret in the run up to the draft. Scouting reports of Jackson acknowledged that he was a major work-in-progress, of which patience would be required. NFL.com’s scouting report of Jackson carried a quote from a scout who described Jackson as, “a project, but he can move a little bit and his arm is really, really good. He’s a draft and develop guy.” TheDraftNetwork.com said of Jackson that, “you like the highlight reel, but the full game tape needs a lot of correcting and a lot more consistency.” Let’s now talk about the practice or “development” that Jackson has received since joining the Bills. In an NFL training camp https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/8/26/20832707/opinion-tyree-jackson-is-an-ideal-practice-squad-candidate Edited August 27, 2019 by HOUSE 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Tyree Jackson isn't a good prospect. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I think a #3 QB matters zero. If you’ve got a strong back up at the position and are a sound team, your season should be okay if your QB goes down. That being said, if your #3 has to play, your season is likely in trouble anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 He deserves nothing. He needs to earn a spot. No way he makes the 53. In games he has not shown he has the potential to grow. I think the Bills need a practice squad QB if they carry only 2 on the active roster. They may prefer another team's cut over Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 He's been awful. The only question is whether you think he's shown enough to warrant further development. I think no, but I'm not the one making such decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I’ve yet to see a play that made me think, “Maybe he could play in the NFL . . .” I won’t be upset if he doesn’t make the practice squad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) I agree with the article. He’s very rough, but he has tools you can work with and he’s thrown some really nice balls, like on Ray-Ray’s double catch. We’re probably talking about a practice squad QB, not someone who will be on the 53. I don’t understand the hatred for this kid. What did people expect? Edited August 27, 2019 by mannc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I say good riddance. I don't think he's capable of giving the defense good looks on the practice squad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: He deserves nothing. He needs to earn a spot. No way he makes the 53. Did you even read the article? The author is not saying Jackson should be on the 53. Or that he’s entitled to anything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I have mixed feelings. Obvioulsy I’d like to see the UB kid make good, but in the limited # of snaps he’s had, his play has been ‘disappointing’. He has thrown a couple of good passes that were on target, but dropped. You have to like his physical attributes. I’ll hold off on ruling him out until after Thursday nite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 I would pick up a better prospect at the final 53 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I'd be happy to see him on the PS if he's willing to switch to TE. He has zero QB potential in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just now, The Senator said: I have mixed feelings. Obvioulsy I’d like to see the UB kid make good, but in the limited # of snaps he’s had, his play has been ‘disappointing’. He has thrown a couple of good passes that were on target, but dropped. You have to like his physical attributes. I’ll hold off on ruling him out until after Thursday nite. What did you expect from him? Did you expect an NFL-ready prospect? Would you really “rule him out” based on these preseason games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I feel the hate is coming to Tyree because he left UB early. He is a raw talent and should be added to practice squad as far as I'm concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, mannc said: What did you expect from him? Did you expect an NFL-ready prospect? Would you really “rule him out” based on these preseason games? He has played a lot in preseason against 3rd stringers. He needs to have a much better game this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, mannc said: I agree with the article. He’s very rough, but he has tools you can work with and he’s thrown some really nice balls, like on Ray-Ray’s double catch. We’re probably talking about a practice squad QB, not someone who will be on the 53. I don’t the hatred for this kid. What did people expect? We have gone through so many bad QB's that I think it can be said that Bills fans could be considered experts when evaluating QB's. He has very poor field vision, accuracy, he looks confused out there and I doubt they are ever able to run a no huddle offense with him at QB. When did it become hatred to just point out a players weaknesses? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, mannc said: What did you expect from him? Did you expect an NFL-ready prospect? Would you really “rule him out” based on these preseason games? I’m pretty sure I said I wouldn’t rule him out. I’d like to see him make the PS, but come on, he’s gotta show us something to hang our hopes on. I expect he’ll see considerable playing time Thursday nite. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: We have gone through so many bad QB's that I think it can be said that Bills fans could be considered experts when evaluating QB's. He has very poor field vision, accuracy, he looks confused out there and I doubt they are ever able to run a no huddle offense with him at QB. When did it become hatred to just point out a players weaknesses? I am not seeing an improvement from the beginning of camp. He looks the same every week. . Edited August 27, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just now, HOUSE said: I am not seeing an improvement from the beginning of camp. He looks the same every week. I agree, unless he is doing something in the practices to really impress the coaches, I don't think he make a PS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 IMO Ideal is someone who can actually throw the ball. 2/4 is 50%, but who's falling for that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, the skycap said: I feel the hate is coming to Tyree because he left UB early. He is a raw talent and should be added to practice squad as far as I'm concerned. LOL, I am not seeing the hate. He has not played well.....period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: LOL, I am not seeing the hate. He has not played well.....period. That's a fact Jack !!! No hate. The kid has been less than impressive. The only reason I watched the 3rd and 4th QTR's was to see Wade get the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Is he? Why? Does the Practice squad need a water boy? Bless him, he has tried. I wanted him to succeed. But he has been God awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 A waste of a practice squad spot...the chance he has to actually turn into a viable NFL QB is extremely low to near 0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 If the Bills think he has the right stuff between the ears then I agree with the OP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 i hear the Colts are looking for a QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, the skycap said: I feel the hate is coming to Tyree because he left UB early. He is a raw talent and should be added to practice squad as far as I'm concerned. Imagine, a year from now, Tyree Jackson throwing 80 yard bombs to Laviska Shenault in Training Camp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, OJ Tom said: Tyree Jackson isn't a good prospect. Being a big UB fan I'd like nothing better than to see Tyree succeed, but it ain't happening this year. The guy really screwed himself leaving school before he was ready. I suppose the Bills could add him to the PS but if a better QB option shakes loose he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Another guy, where if he went to Eastern Michigan no one would care about him. Did Carson Wentz or Josh Allen not playing SEC defenses stall their development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, the skycap said: I feel the hate is coming to Tyree because he left UB early. He is a raw talent and should be added to practice squad as far as I'm concerned. The hate comes from seeing his play for the Bills, not from leaving UB. I mean really, you can see him play right? Besides they're are very few actual UB fans on TBD. And most arrived just last year. 2 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Another guy, where if he went to Eastern Michigan no one would care about him. Did Carson Wentz or Josh Allen not playing SEC defenses stall their development? I don't think he was coached very well at UB. I know his dad had misgivings. But UB was the only D1 offer he got out of high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I’m sorry but he’s freakin awful. Terrible. He is an ideal cut. Nothing else. I’ve seen enough of that kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Tight end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Tight end. He'd snap in two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Not sure the Bills even need a practice squad QB. Based on what we've seen against preseason 3rd stringers, Tyree Jackson is nowhere close to being capable of running an offense. He won't be active on gamedays. And in the event we needed a #3 quarterback to actually play, our front office would certainly scan the waiver wire for vets before putting Jackson on the field. We don't really need to develop another "future" guy. Both of our current Quarterbacks are young, and should be around for the next several years. Jackson is obviously not displacing Josh Allen anytime soon. At worst, Allen will get another 3-4 seasons to prove himself. Matt Barkley is also only 28, and has developed into a dependable NFL backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 McD will make the call.with input from Bean.......I realise that the lack of polish and preparation needs to be overcome.....that was known day 1. My question is does he have sufficient accuracy to make it in the NFL. If he does, and training camp should have told McBean, he is practice squad material. If he is all over with his throws (ala EJ Manuel), then he is not practice squad material. Pretty simple to me, I just haven't seen him throw enough to know about the accuracy. YEs, the arm is strong, but is it ACCURATE? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 He sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) As a UB fan it stinks to hear so many people rip the kid. But i can honestly say he hasn't done enough to earn the practice squad...at least not yet. He can throw the ball 100mph, we know this, and a few are on target, but he's not seeing the field and making reads fast enough. And when he does the ball has not been accurate the majority of the time. If he gets the final preseason game, I assume that will make or break his future with the club. The NFL personnel experts league-wide who decided not to draft Tyree were spot on. Edited August 27, 2019 by zow2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 First he has to survive Thirsday night. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GymShorts84 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 The goal for your developmental practice squad QB is to one day be a reliable backup. A safe, steady, accurate QB that can hold the team stable for a half or a couple games, not a boom or bust candidate. There will be plenty of safe options after cut day. Improving Josh Allen’s accuracy or just developing into a less of a gunslinger is a tough task. Tyree Jackson is exponentially more raw and inaccurate. 29 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Not sure the Bills even need a practice squad QB. Based on what we've seen against preseason 3rd stringers, Tyree Jackson is nowhere close to being capable of running an offense. He won't be active on gamedays. And in the event we needed a #3 quarterback to actually play, our front office would certainly scan the waiver wire for vets before putting Jackson on the field. We don't really need to develop another "future" guy. Both of our current Quarterbacks are young, and should be around for the next several years. Jackson is obviously not displacing Josh Allen anytime soon. At worst, Allen will get another 3-4 seasons to prove himself. Matt Barkley is also only 28, and has developed into a dependable NFL backup. Don’t all teams have a PS QB to run the scout team against the starting D in practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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