Orlando Tim Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Well, if he doesn’t care about winning, then sure... make a ton of money and live in Miami - I get it. I’m operating under the assumption that he doesn’t want to play his prime in obscurity. Obscurity for an extra 30 million is a good deal forany people- but I am not sure his primary motivation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Seeing very little on Twitter other than the Dolphins appear to be the "frontrunner." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, The Jokeman said: What about next year's 1st, McCoy and Shaq? That's where the conversation would likely start to get Clowney. No way would I make that deal! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: No thanks on Clowney. Hasn’t attended training camp in several years (according to Jim Miller on Moving the Chains). Evidently not a process guy. He had one huuuuge play in college and his reputation is greatly exaggerated by that one play. I trust Beane but hope he goes the Phins (the way of Mario Williams and Donkey Kong Su). This is my fear about him...he’s had motivation issues since college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: What about next year's 1st, McCoy and Shaq? That's where the conversation would likely start to get Clowney. I'd be shocked if Beane traded a 1st for a rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 36 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Why the Dolphins? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plastic Cup Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lurker said: That one-year rental bothers me. I could see him wanting to sign with the Pats next year. Isn't Gilmore like his BFF (they played together in high school)... https://nesn.com/2018/09/stephon-gilmore-knew-jadeveon-clowney-was-a-freak-before-anyone/ I could see it if they are exchanging fellow one year guys. Houston needs a RB so it does point to a potential deal for Shady (plus more), and would explain the Bills highlighting Shady against the Lions (he clearly passed the test). I'd be concerned about getting rid of the best player on offense given where that side of the ball is in development, but if they think Gore can replace the leadership and he+Singletary+Yeldon can replace the production......it's not out of the realm of possibility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: What about next year's 1st, McCoy and Shaq? That's where the conversation would likely start to get Clowney. I would not trade a 1st when we have to pay him so much. We need to get talent cheap somewhere and the draft is best way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The Pro Football Network guy floating these tweets, Matthew Cannata, also writes for the Dolphins blog Phin Phanatic. Curious that he'd have Miami as a player, knowing they're one inch away from tank mode... https://www.google.com/search?q=Matthew+Cannata&rlz=1CAKSOU_enUS765US765&oq=Matthew+Cannata&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Zay Jones is from the Austin area, he might prefer to be traded and a fresh start tbh. As far as Murphy, he’s a good player. Murphy? I suppose he is a good player when healthy, but in more of a secondary role. When Beane signed him, the Bills were trying to fill in holes on the roster. With the emergence of some of the young defensive stars, the Bills are shifting gears to become a more disruptive and dynamic unit...Murphy does not fit, Clowney does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: I'd be shocked if Beane traded a 1st for a rental. If they trade a 1st, it's because they've already negotiated a deal. He can't be traded until he signs his franchise tender, and he isn't doing that without assurances 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: This is a little counter to the idea that the Fish want to get rid of their entire roster. Unless they view Clowney as a future piece. I really don’y Care. I hope the Bills land him. I would trade the entire Dolphins roster for Clowney. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Alshon Jeffrey for Clowney would also make a TON of sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Dolphins absolutely have better pieces to get this deal done, I for one hope they do get him I don’t want him in buffalo. But they have stills the deep threat they can throw in, like it or not he’s a much better player than Foster and Zay at this moment, of course they have an elite level LT to dangle, couple decent running backs and defensive backs to dangle. And they definitely are expected to have very high draft picks. I don’t want buffalo to pay the guy 20 million a year. I just don’t think he’s ever going to be much better than he is and it’s just too much money to tie up for a guy who is not a game changer. Not to mention the fact he may just bolt in the offseason anyways 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Seeing very little on Twitter other than the Dolphins appear to be the "frontrunner." There remains a possibility that the Bills are trying to drive up the price on the Fish. Gaine knows a lot about what the Texans want. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: No thanks on Clowney. Hasn’t attended training camp in several years (according to Jim Miller on Moving the Chains). Evidently not a process guy. He had one huuuuge play in college and his reputation is greatly exaggerated by that one play. I trust Beane but hope he goes the Phins (the way of Mario Williams and Donkey Kong Su). I saw him in college more often than most and he had a lot of great plays but he also was not consistent or reliable. He would dominate a drive and then disappear till the other team got to the 10 and show back up. He is not high motor in my opinion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: No thanks on Clowney. Hasn’t attended training camp in several years (according to Jim Miller on Moving the Chains). Evidently not a process guy. He had one huuuuge play in college and his reputation is greatly exaggerated by that one play. I trust Beane but hope he goes the Phins (the way of Mario Williams and Donkey Kong Su). This is inaccurate Fergy. He was a monster in college. That hit just got a ton of play. As a UM fan, I prefer not to watch it. In terms of his NFL career, he's shaken off early injuries and improved each and every year. His sack numbers have risen to around 9 even though he's not always tasked with rushing the passer in that scheme. He has SIXTY FOUR TFL's. The guy is legit. 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: There remains a possibility that the Bills are trying to drive up the price on the Fish. Gaine knows a lot about what the Texans want. Well that would suck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Murphy, Zay, and Yeldon plus a pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Phins could do still and tunsil for him or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Another question would be............ Do you trust McDermott to bring Clowney to an all-world level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Yea, we’d probably have to throw in picks to outbid Miami, given they have a franchise Tackle they somehow don’t want to keep. That said, I just can’t wrap my head around it. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a team in tank mode make a blockbuster trade like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: This was yesterday , Lombardi said he'd be gone in 24-48 hrs and they want a WR... Interesting "Did I hear a new opportunity?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think there is pretty decent Clowney is a Bill by the end of the day. They are one of two teams mentioned and Clowney rumored to not want to go to Miami. He controls the situation, remember, because he can’t be traded until he signs his franchise tender. wait, not wanting to go to Miami. I read a story last year that nobody wanted to come here!?!? wonder what we are trading. Likely a RB and draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: What about next year's 1st, McCoy and Shaq? That's where the conversation would likely start to get Clowney. I'm fine with this, considering the 1st will be 32nd. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lurker said: That one-year rental bothers me. It puts tremendous pressure on the GM to re-sign him i.e. overpay next year. He's not as good as the insane contract he's going to command. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think there is pretty decent Clowney is a Bill by the end of the day. They are one of two teams mentioned and Clowney rumored to not want to go to Miami. He controls the situation, remember, because he can’t be traded until he signs his franchise tender. What would the Bills trade? Houston is reportedly looking for a starting Olineman or WR. We aren't exactly great in those departments either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I was looking at spotrac for his "probable" contract and it is 100 million for 6 years. I want no part of that for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: This is inaccurate Fergy. He was a monster in college. That hit just got a ton of play. As a UM fan, I prefer not to watch it. In terms of his NFL career, he's shaken off early injuries and improved each and every year. His sack numbers have risen to around 9 even though he's not always tasked with rushing the passer in that scheme. He has SIXTY FOUR TFL's. The guy is legit. Clowney is big time legit. His play cannot always be measured in numbers. He generates a lot of pressure, he is all over the run game, and in constant pursuit. Plug him in to this defense and now we are getting somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Phins could do still and tunsil for him or something. I still think they are dumb for trading Tunsil but whatever, I won’t complain if they trade either of those guys. I think the problem is that Clowney reportedly does not want to go there. Could have to do with the coach, the ownership, the lack of a qb, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Get er done Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Doesn't make sense that they need a WR when they can't keep the QB upright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Alshon Jeffrey for Clowney would also make a TON of sense. This is also far more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Clowney is a great player, but do the Bills really need to give up a bunch of assets for one guy, to improve a Defense that’s already very solid? I know they need better depth at LB, but this seems a bit luxurious if you’re trying to build a complete team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Meh. The worst thing an organization can do is acquire elite talent because you have to pay them and they MIGHT not live up to the contract. Do I have that right? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I was looking at spotrac for his "probable" contract and it is 100 million for 6 years. I want no part of that for him. Thats less $ than Trey Flowers got. And Clowney is FAR superior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Don't like it! He's not a process guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) This defense would have zero weaknesses if we got Clowney. We’d be talking dominance. Hughes - Star - Oliver - Clowney Milano - Edmunds - Lorax White - Johnson - Wallace Hyde - Poyer Solid depth at every level behind those guys Edited August 25, 2019 by SCBills 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nextmanup Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, skibum said: Clowney is a great player, but do the Bills really need to give up a bunch of assets for one guy, to improve a Defense that’s already very solid? I know they need better depth at LB, but this seems a bit luxurious if you’re trying to build a complete team. No. I hope we pass on this deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Yeldon and a 2nd for him or Shady and a 2nd for him and a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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