Baldy's Breakdown of Allen vs Panthers

[CNY315]

 

[AmishRifle]

Those throws to Sweeney were dimes!  Dilfer dimes with the fire!!

[MAGA-Man]

That fumble would have been cause by the ground if the Panthers recovered.

[TPS]

Pass Pro excellent in some of those and good in others.

[Ralonzo]

Occurs to me that Zay hangs on to the ball and Hauschka doesn't doink one, and we're doing this video last week.

[Iamkrgr]

Oline stepping up this year would huge. 

[ddaryl]

Crazy thing is if there was no missed FG or dropped probable TD pass to Zay in the 1st preseason then Allen could of had 4 series and 4 scoring drives in preseason...

 

Things that make you go... ***** the Hell yeah  !!!!

 

[Mark Vader]

53 minutes ago, TPS said:

Pass Pro excellent in some of those and good in others.

Definitely.

 

Look at how much time Allen had to throw in those pass plays. A couple of times the Panthers defenders get close, but the offensive line gives Allen just enough time for him to make a play.

 

On that second pass to Sweeney, look at how much room Allen has in front of him before he makes the pass. Allen could have ran and made the first down easily. Thankfully he did not. He stays in the pocket hits Sweeney with a good pass and it's first and goal.

 

Exciting to see.

Edited August 17, 2019 by Mark Vader

[Buffalo Boy]

9 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Definitely.

 

Look at how much time Allen had to throw in those pass plays. A couple of times the panthers defenders get close, but the offensive line gives Allen just enough time for him to make a play.

 

On that second pass to Sweeney, look at how much room Allen has in front of him before he makes the pass. Allen could have ran and made the first down easily. Thankfully he did not. He stays in the pocket hits Sweeney with a good pass and it's first and goal.

 

Exciting to see.

The best part????

They aren’t even a cohesive unit yet. 

As this season progresses( barring injuries) they will get better.

Building a team from the lines out?

McBeane is on it and it is gratifying to watch.

 

Also, Josh is a worker. You just know this cat is going to be killing it in the film room. His ability to read Defenses is going to grow and grow???

[TPS]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

The best part????

They aren’t even a cohesive unit yet. 

As this season progresses( barring injuries) they will get better.

Building a team from the lines out?

McBeane is on it and it is gratifying to watch.

 

Also, Josh is a worker. You just know this cat is going to be killing it in the film room. His ability to read Defenses is going to grow and grow???

Feliciano also looks like an upgrade over last year, if he has to play C.

Two Similar plays from last night that show a huge upgrade: Shady's TD and a 3rd down and short run for the first. The OL won the line of scrimmage on both. That was rare last year in short yardage.

[MAGA-Man]

Sure hope he throws a TD next week.

[Don Otreply]

JA and the O sure look like they are executing light years better than last season to say the least.

 

Go Bills!!!

[Chandler#81]

1 hour ago, CNY315 said:

 

Most notable, Sweeney wasn’t even looking when Josh let it fly. It was a pass Tyrod will never throw in his life. 

[Watkins90]

52 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Definitely.

 

Look at how much time Allen had to throw in those pass plays. A couple of times the Panthers defenders get close, but the offensive line gives Allen just enough time for him to make a play.

 

On that second pass to Sweeney, look at how much room Allen has in front of him before he makes the pass. Allen could have ran and made the first down easily. Thankfully he did not. He stays in the pocket hits Sweeney with a good pass and it's first and goal.

 

Exciting to see.

I said it yesterday and I’ll say it again. We just need our o-line to be average to good on any given day and we’ll have a chance to win. We don’t need an elite offensive line, just one that can get the job done.

[Gugny]

16 minutes ago, MAGA-Man said:

Sure hope he throws a TD next week.

 

If he doesn't, I think Barkley should be the starter.  This is getting ridiculous.  Very, very ridiculous.  Believe me.  Nobody knows ridiculous like me ... and this is ridiculous.

[DuckyBoys]

12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Most notable, Sweeney wasn’t even looking when Josh let it fly. It was a pass Tyrod will never throw in his life. 

Yup, the young guy is learning to throw guys open by anticipating windows and yes if Zay makes that catch last week we'd have been hearing about Allen last week  Amazing how one or two plays make or break a game

[ddaryl]

11 minutes ago, Gugny said:

  Believe me.  Nobody knows ridiculous like me ... and this is ridiculous.

 

 

I think Maga-Man has you Trumped

[GreggTX]

That was the best performance I've seen from Josh Allen since he was drafted. I've been one of his biggest critics, but he really impressed me in this game. He made accurate, well placed throws on a consistent basis. I never saw him do that last season. Even many of his completions were poorly thrown. There were really only a couple bad passes in 11 attempts against Carolina and Beasley caught one of them anyways (his 1st catch). Brown, Beasley, Sweeney, and several other receivers are playing well and we haven't even seen Knox play in a game. Don't dismiss Knox either. He has exceptional speed for a TE that can also block well.

 

Never mind the media hype one way or another. Trust your eyes. We're going to be releasing some pretty good players at the final 53 man cut.

 

What we need to add or develop is a couple of superstars on both sides of the ball. We need one on the pass rush and one to shut down guys like AB and OBJ well enough to win. We need one in the run game and one in the passing game. 4 in all. Wade or Singletary could be the answer for our run game. Shady could have a big year.

 

This offseason is looking better all the time.

Edited August 17, 2019 by GreggTX

[Utah John]

I look at the list of names who are providing standout play on offense, and not a lot of them are players from last year, and very few from two years ago.  Beasely, Sweeney, Wade, Singletary, most of the O line (what a great job upgrading) -- McBeane have overcome the disastrous 2016 draft -- players who should be rounding in the top-notch pros at this point. The only one left, I think, is Shaq Lawson.  So we went out and got players to fill the 2016 gaps. 

 

I'll feel better if the offense can do even half as well as they have so far against non-game planned defenses full of grocery baggers. Well maybe that's harsh.  I am extremely encouraged by the changes this year.

[Augie]

28 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

If he doesn't, I think Barkley should be the starter.  This is getting ridiculous.  Very, very ridiculous.  Believe me.  Nobody knows ridiculous like me ... and this is ridiculous.

 

I can vouch for him. This man is the ultimate in pure ridiculousness! The real deal, I tell you! 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

Thanks for the videos.

[Mr. WEO]

This guy Baldy points his phone at his TV and then posts his observations?

[DRA3196]

I always appreciate Baldy's breakdowns because he is honest. good, bad or indifferent. great stuff. Thanks for sharing

[purple haze]

3 hours ago, Watkins90 said:

I said it yesterday and I’ll say it again. We just need our o-line to be average to good on any given day and we’ll have a chance to win. We don’t need an elite offensive line, just one that can get the job done.

True.  You don't have to have an elite offensive line to win a lot of games.  BUT I'll take one if we can get it.  Elite offensive lines are the reason the Buffalo Bills don't have a Super Bowl trophy at OBD.  You get an elite o-line, if a team doesn't turn the ball over, they win.

[BADOLBILZ]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

 

Building a team from the lines out

 

 

 

 

I'm encouraged by their preseason performance but that is the exact opposite of what McBeane did.

 

And that's probably a good thing.

 

Buddy tried to build from the lines out..........succeeded in doing that.........but failed to turn the team into a viable long term contender because building the lines at all cost ignores the fact that it's a matchup league and you need a QB and you need excellent players at the high $ positions to win in the modern NFL.

 

 

[TigerJ]

7 hours ago, MAGA-Man said:

That fumble would have been cause by the ground if the Panthers recovered.

If it had been ruled a fumble, Buffalo's spot on first and goal would have been two yards better.

[TigerJ]

3 hours ago, DRA3196 said:

I always appreciate Baldy's breakdowns because he is honest. good, bad or indifferent. great stuff. Thanks for sharing

You like Baldy whether he's honest, good, bad or indifferent?  You're easy to please, aren't you!

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I'm encouraged by their preseason performance but that is the exact opposite of what McBeane did.

 

And that's probably a good thing.

 

Buddy tried to build from the lines out..........succeeded in doing that.........but failed to turn the team into a viable long term contender because building the lines at all cost ignores the fact that it's a matchup league and you need a QB and you need excellent players at the high $ positions to win in the modern NFL.

 

 

   Star, Phillips , Oliver, Ford, Morse, Nsekhe, Long, Feliciano etc

   Yes you can make the argument that they have brought in A QB and LB with high draft picks but it’s the spirit of what they are doing that I’m referring to.

   Beane watched Cam get beaten to heck behind crappy O Lines for years and he is not doing that to our Franchise QB

    A lot of people on here moaned about Star not living up to his contract. With Oliver next to him and Edmunds behind them watch how our Run Defense rank moves up in one year.

    There is only so much you can do each year but they filled the cupboard with good players all over the roster with the interior of both lines feeeling a good bit of that love.

 

[Da webster guy]

6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

This guy Baldy points his phone at his TV and then posts his observations?

His audio is so crappy i've busted on him a few times about it on twitter.  Like 'Baldy whaddya up in the space station with that audio transmission?"    

He doesnt think its funny, but it is.

 

He's got the same audio guy that manages all the sports press conferences where u can't hear the question because the idiots are too lazy and inept to properly mike up the people asking the questions.

 

They can do it fine at the white house, but god forbid the sports world gets with the program..

.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

41 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

His audio is so crappy i've busted on him a few times about it on twitter.  Like 'Baldy whaddya up in the space station with that audio transmission?"    

He doesnt think its funny, but it is.

 

He's got the same audio guy that manages all the sports press conferences where u can't hear the question because the idiots are too lazy and inept to properly mike up the people asking the questions.

 

They can do it fine at the white house, but god forbid the sports world gets with the program..

.

 

 

 

 

 

Sound guy??

[Richard Noggin]

8 hours ago, GreggTX said:

That was the best performance I've seen from Josh Allen since he was drafted. I've been one of his biggest critics, but he really impressed me in this game. He made accurate, well placed throws on a consistent basis.

While on one level I agree with you and the majority of posters on this thread...that Allen is looking more composed and decisive and accurate...we shouldn't completely lose sight of the context: neither Carolina nor Indy sent pressure packages or disguised their coverages much. A first-team offense/starting QB SHOULD enjoy success under those circumstances.

 

And again, don't misunderstand me: it's very encouraging to see the Bills finally execute a modern passing attack. It bodes well. Our own D is winning its battles using vanilla schemes. But defenses will play Allen much differently in the regular season. I'm curious how well Allen will diagnose and react to different pressures and coverages. 

[Hank II]

I have not watched any pre-season so please excuse my ignorant question. 

 

- does Allen have Happy feet in the pocket. 

- does he step up in the pocket and go through his read progressions. 

- is he bailing early and running.

-is the term (McBean) on this board used in a derogatory way. If so, how many wins will it take for it to stop?

 

[Warcodered]

13 minutes ago, Hank II said:

I have not watched any pre-season so please excuse my ignorant question. 

 

- does Allen have Happy feet in the pocket. 

- does he step up in the pocket and go through his read progressions. 

- is he bailing early and running.

-is the term (McBean) on this board used in a derogatory way. If so, how many wins will it take for it to stop?

 

At around :50 the line really opens up the middle but instead of trying to just run up for the first Allen steps up and hits Sweeney for a big gain.

[RobbRiddick]

The way he starts the video with "I'll admit it, I like Josh Allen" was a bit like an AA introduction, or someone admitting they like listening to John Denver

[Watkins90]

15 hours ago, purple haze said:

True.  You don't have to have an elite offensive line to win a lot of games.  BUT I'll take one if we can get it.  Elite offensive lines are the reason the Buffalo Bills don't have a Super Bowl trophy at OBD.  You get an elite o-line, if a team doesn't turn the ball over, they win.

Well yeah. That could be great but we don’t need to over spend or be mad when we don’t have one. We don’t need to overreact every time someone gets beat on the line. It’s going to happen.

[BADOLBILZ]

13 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   Star, Phillips , Oliver, Ford, Morse, Nsekhe, Long, Feliciano etc

   Yes you can make the argument that they have brought in A QB and LB with high draft picks but it’s the spirit of what they are doing that I’m referring to.

   Beane watched Cam get beaten to heck behind crappy O Lines for years and he is not doing that to our Franchise QB

    A lot of people on here moaned about Star not living up to his contract. With Oliver next to him and Edmunds behind them watch how our Run Defense rank moves up in one year.

    There is only so much you can do each year but they filled the cupboard with good players all over the roster with the interior of both lines feeeling a good bit of that love.

 

 

 

So you do realize that 6 of those 8 players were acquired in year 3 of McDermott's regime.......no?

 

They drafted a CB and WR in rounds 1 and 2 in draft #1.

 

They drafted a QB and MLB in round 1 in draft #2.

 

That's not building "from the lines OUT".

 

I know you are caught up in pre-season giddiness but at least tell the story right.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2019 by BADOLBILZ

[Buffalo Boy]

29 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So you do realize that 6 of those 8 players were acquired in year 3 of McDermott's regime.......no?

 

They drafted a CB and WR in rounds 1 and 2 in draft #1.

 

They drafted a QB and MLB in round 1 in draft #2.

 

That's not building "from the lines OUT".

 

I know you are caught up in pre-season giddiness but at least tell the story right.

 

 

The first year they Lost/Traded Darby and Gilmore and Watkins.

They also spent the first two years fixing the cap and taking BPA. 

So, from my perspective, they were replacing needs. If you are breaking up a previous incarnation of your team are you really building.

Building started in year two with Star being a major addition. Couple Star with Edmunds and one could see that McBeane was building from the inside out.

Also, year three of the McDermott regime is year two for McBeane. This team is still not a finished product and we have a serious need at WR still. 

So, if you want to argue that Draft picks are the only measure of how a team is constructed, yes, you are right.

However, I Respectfully disagree with you. I saw guys being replaced with like guys in year one and an emphasis on the O-Line and interior Defense ( including MLB) since. 

 

 

[jletha]

43 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

The first year they Lost/Traded Darby and Gilmore and Watkins.

They also spent the first two years fixing the cap and taking BPA. 

So, from my perspective, they were replacing needs. If you are breaking up a previous incarnation of your team are you really building.

Building started in year two with Star being a major addition. Couple Star with Edmunds and one could see that McBeane was building from the inside out.

Also, year three of the McDermott regime is year two for McBeane. This team is still not a finished product and we have a serious need at WR still. 

So, if you want to argue that Draft picks are the only measure of how a team is constructed, yes, you are right.

However, I Respectfully disagree with you. I saw guys being replaced with like guys in year one and an emphasis on the O-Line and interior Defense ( including MLB) since. 

 

 

By emphasis on O-line since do you mean losing Wood and Incognito and replacing them with below replacement level talent and trading away Cordy Glenn? Also MLB isn't interior defense, especially in todays NFL when north-south LBers are useless. While Beane wasn't the GM during the draft three seasons ago, he was there for the rest and made the Sammy/Darby trades. So those moves count for him. 

 

This year is the first year they've focused on O-line.  They have not built from the inside out. They focused on getting the cap in good shape and getting a QB and now are focusing on filling in around the QB with an O-line and weapons.

Edited August 18, 2019 by jletha

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, jletha said:

By emphasis on O-line since do you mean losing Wood and Incognito and replacing them with below replacement level talent and trading away Cordy Glenn? Also MLB isn't interior defense, especially in todays NFL when north-south LBers are useless. While Beane wasn't the GM during the draft three seasons ago, he was there for the rest and made the Sammy/Darby trades. So those moves count for him. 

 

This year is the first year they've focused on O-line.  They have not built from the inside out. They focused on getting the cap in good shape and getting a QB and now are focusing on filling in around the QB with an O-line and weapons.

Losing Wood was a Wood choice.

Cordy Glenn was injury prone and went on IR

Incognito was ...... Incognito, it was time to let him go.

Again, if I spend a dollar and make a dollar am I really earning or just holding serve.

The point of having Star and Oliver is to chew up blockers and keep your MLB free to hit the correct gap without having to shed a blocker himself.

Correct me if I’m wrong but the Bills Run D wasn’t very good last year, especially up the middle? 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Buffalo Boy

[purple haze]

5 hours ago, Watkins90 said:

We don’t need to overreact every time someone gets beat on the line. It’s going to happen.

??? overraction is a message board credo.