Many think Beane believes Allen should model his game after Cam Newton... but he hints it’s actually Russell Wilson

[4merper4mer]

2 minutes ago, Chemical said:

 

You’re right. But I give it 3 weeks until some are making excuses for Allen’s lack of weapons once again. 

If only you'd wait that long before whining about it once again.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

If only you'd wait that long before whining about it once again.

 

Once again?

[Chandler#81]

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Well, Russ is a very accurate passer and that wasn’t Cam’s strength ... I like that he wants him to model his game after him as to “when” to run but I don’t see many other similarities to Russ

 

Ditto this, but the biggest difference is Russ ISN’T as fast or as clever a runner as what we’ve seen Allen be. Both are exceptional in freeing themselves behind the pocket. Both look to pass 1st, but Josh KNOWS quickly he can get a lot of yards tucking it in and running if the majority of defenders are away from him. He didn’t intend to bust off 50 yard scampers. They just developed and he took advantage of them. Either Wilson doesn’t recognize these opportunities or he’s just thinking ‘get down’ at the 1st opposition.

I’ve  said it before. We have a FREAK playing QB. Never seen ANYONE like him and I’m older than dirt. I realize the brass is concerned for his safety. I just wish everyone would stop trying to make references to other players. There ISN’T a comparison. Never has been.

[Teddy KGB]

1 hour ago, Chemical said:

Dk metcalf will have 10TDs at least next year. How many yards will Devin singletary have ?

 

I got 100,000 on the under.       Can you source funds ? 

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, Chemical said:

Dk metcalf will have 10TDs at least next year. How many yards will Devin singletary have ?

 

I don't know man, I liked Metcalf too, but considering this is what he looks like against air right now:

 

 

I don't see him scoring 10 TDs this year. He's raw as can be.

 

[TigerJ]

9 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

See this is what terrifies me.  I think Daboll, who has been awful at every stop besides NE, is going to force fit Allen into a Brady type style.  IMO, I think this will severely hurt Allen.  He’s not that type of player.  It reminds me of the hiring of Dennison (who had a better offense than Daboll) forcing Tyrod into a west coast offense.  What good coaches do is place their players in the best places to succeed.  Allen will never be a precision passer so why force him into that?

Well, I am wired to be optimistic, so maybe I'm all wet, but I don't have any fear whatsoever that Daboll is going to try and turn Josh Allen into Frankenbrady.  Daboll demonstrated the ability at Alabama to build an offense that fit both the personnel at Alabama and Nick Saban's strong feelings about offense.  Daboll is a product of all the places he's been, including New England.  He's never had the kind of personnel he has now, and I think we're going to see some New England and some Alabama in the Bills this season.  I don't know that Josh Allen is going to have Tom Brady's timing and short area accuracy, but I think he's going to be better at both than last year.  My biggest reason for optimism is that I think Josh Allen has the mental accumen to handle anything and everything that Brian Daboll can dream up to go with the physical ability to make it work.  I do expect to see a fair number of Bradyesque plays in the Bills' offense, but I also expect to see plays that remind us of what Kliff Kingsbury will be installing in Arizona.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

12 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Elway did win super bowls and was part of that whole Kelly, Marino, Elway thing

 

I would take that

I was just joking around.   

 

Kelly, Marino and Elway are all 3 great athletes.   I just happened to like Elway the least. 

 

[YoloinOhio]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

The article does say that about hinting he should model his game after Wilson. But there's no mention of Newton in the article whatsoever. Bringing in Newton was pure Yolo, with neither the writer or Beane dropping the name.

 

But the only thing Beane appears to have been mentioning Wilson for is to say that Wilson builds his game around passing, not running. I'm sure in that sense, yeah, they'd like to have him be more like Wilson.

 

But they're two very different players in style, build, skill set ... Both great runners, but that's about it for their similarities. Wilson's rookie year completion percentage was 64.7%. That was good for 9th in the league that year, and he got that while maintaining a much higher YPA than Allen did, 7.9 for Wilson compared to 6.5 for Allen. Wilson and Allen started with wildly different strengths to build on and weaknesses to improve.

Correct, I said many think they selected a player who had similarities to Cam, and are modeling the offense after the Panthers. it’s been discussed a lot. Hopefully thread title was clear.  As far as Beane “hinting” about it being Russell Wilson, that was the reporter’s title 

Edited July 19, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Ditto this, but the biggest difference is Russ ISN’T as fast or as clever a runner as what we’ve seen Allen be. Both are exceptional in freeing themselves behind the pocket. Both look to pass 1st, but Josh KNOWS quickly he can get a lot of yards tucking it in and running if the majority of defenders are away from him. He didn’t intend to bust off 50 yard scampers. They just developed and he took advantage of them. Either Wilson doesn’t recognize these opportunities or he’s just thinking ‘get down’ at the 1st opposition.

I’ve  said it before. We have a FREAK playing QB. Never seen ANYONE like him and I’m older than dirt. I realize the brass is concerned for his safety. I just wish everyone would stop trying to make references to other players. There ISN’T a comparison. Never has been.

 

Whoa, what?  Are we all talking about the Russell Wilson that plays for the Seattle Seahawks?

 

He has a career 645 rushes for 3651 yards and 16 TDs.  His career has been spent behind really bad O-lines. He is the most elusive QB in the NFL.   He's not a "get down at the first opportunity QB".  Who could have watched him play and come to the above conclusion??

 

Allen's mobility is a nice surprise. 

 

 

[Chandler#81]

18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Whoa, what?  Are we all talking about the Russell Wilson that plays for the Seattle Seahawks?

 

He has a career 645 rushes for 3651 yards and 16 TDs.  His career has been spent behind really bad O-lines. He is the most elusive QB in the NFL.   He's not a "get down at the first opportunity QB".  Who could have watched him play and come to the above conclusion??

 

Allen's mobility is a nice surprise. 

 

 

Who? Me. Certainly early on he ‘shook up the World’. Not so much in recent years. Allen may follow this career trajectory, but not for a while.

[Buffalo Boy]

   I’ve actually been riding Panther’s fans at work, calling JA “ Cam 2.0”.

   When Cam came out he started under Chud chucking the ball downfield, kinda like JA last year. 

    Cam has an arm( or did) and has accuracy issues on the short touch passes though Turner turned that around for him last year before he got injured.

    I do not want to see JA relied upon to create a running game like CN has for far too long.

    I don’t think that is where the Bills are headed with him but both QBs play a similar game with similar strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Victory Formation]

He's better than all of them as a runner. I can't count how many times he turned an "oh crap" moment into a "thata boy!" I think he'll be solid this year, just not at a Pro Bowl level. He needs to dump them passes off to the RBs and WRs this year, the hero ball will get his ACL blown eventually. That's why we brought in Beasley, Singletary and Yeldon. Maybe run options.

[Buffalo Boy]

14 hours ago, Elite Poster said:

Beane WANTS Allen to play more like Russ but its pretty clear which of the two QBs he plays most like. Does that mean he will for the rest of his career? Remains to be seen but this kid's ceiling to me, IN MY OPINION (relax guys don't get upset), is to have a Cam-like career with SLIGHTLY better passing stats. 

    Cam COULD have had amazing passing stats if Shula hadn’t been his OC for so many years.

    The option play was a staple of the O and Cam took a double beating due to below average O-Lines and Refs allowing hits on him( in the passing game) on Playa other QBs would have gotten the flag.

    

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Who? Me. Certainly early on he ‘shook up the World’. Not so much in recent years. Allen may follow this career trajectory, but not for a while.

 

2 seasons ago, he may have produced one of the most amazing offensive years a QB ever has:  34 passing TD's, 3 rushing TD's......the rest of the TEAM produced 1 other TD all year.

 

He literally was their entire offense, while their D was in decline.  He was their leading rusher in a backfield that included Eddie Lacy, Mike Davis, Thomas Rawls, Chris Carson... 

 

Last year, 35 more TDs over 7 INTs. He is at the absolute peak of his powers right now.   He is the most exciting QB to watch in the NFL for years now.

[Elite Poster]

People still have no idea what they are looking at if they don't think Russ is a lock hall of famer.

 

Damn shame. 

[Figster]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

2 seasons ago, he may have produced one of the most amazing offensive years a QB ever has:  34 passing TD's, 3 rushing TD's......the rest of the TEAM produced 1 other TD all year.

 

He literally was their entire offense, while their D was in decline.  He was their leading rusher in a backfield that included Eddie Lacy, Mike Davis, Thomas Rawls, Chris Carson... 

 

Last year, 35 more TDs over 7 INTs. He is at the absolute peak of his powers right now.   He is the most exciting QB to watch in the NFL for years now.

If I had to choose between RW and CN, I'm taking Cam.

 

What intrigues me is we have a QB with the same size and skill set as Cam Newton, but smarter.

[dave mcbride]

15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Come on!!  Maybe in the sleaziest college football player HOF..

 

Look, his rookie season was his peak season as a passer.  His past 3 years, he struggled to crack 3500 yards once.  low 20's in passing TDs, career sub 60%.

 

No one is depending on Cam Newton's passing game to rack up wins any more.

 

Bills need a lot more from Allen than TT-plus type output.

Anyone who thinks Newton's best passing season was his rookie season is either a knave or a fool. How could you even contemplate saying that? My god. And comparing him to Taylor? Sheesh. 

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

2 seasons ago, he may have produced one of the most amazing offensive years a QB ever has:  34 passing TD's, 3 rushing TD's......the rest of the TEAM produced 1 other TD all year.

 

He literally was their entire offense, while their D was in decline.  He was their leading rusher in a backfield that included Eddie Lacy, Mike Davis, Thomas Rawls, Chris Carson... 

 

Last year, 35 more TDs over 7 INTs. He is at the absolute peak of his powers right now.   He is the most exciting QB to watch in the NFL for years now.

Agreed on this. Wilson is HOF player. 

Edited July 19, 2019 by dave mcbride

[Mr. WEO]

16 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Anyone who thinks Newton's best passing season was his rookie season is either a knave or a fool. How could you even contemplate saying that? My god. And comparing him to Taylor? Sheesh. 

Agreed on this. Wilson is HOF player. 

 

The other poster was citing his "record breaking rookie season".  But really, there is only one other decent year passing (2015) and even there he couldn't top 4000 yards or 60%.  Since then, he's completely mediocre.  He's essentially an option QB at this point.

 

I wasn't comparing them as far as stature or even style of play, but after Newton's "best passing season" he put up the same numbers as TT 92016). 

1 hour ago, Figster said:

If I had to choose between RW and CN, I'm taking Cam.

 

What intrigues me is we have a QB with the same size and skill set as Cam Newton, but smarter.

 

 

Holy cow.....

Edited July 19, 2019 by Mr. WEO

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The other poster was citing his "record breaking rookie season".  But really, there is only one other decent year passing (2015) and even there he couldn't top 4000 yards or 60%.  Since then, he's completely mediocre.  He's essentially an option QB at this point.

 

I wasn't comparing them as far as stature or even style of play, but after Newton's "best passing season" he put up the same numbers as TT 92016). 

 

 

Holy cow.....

Raw yardage is a sucker stat. Focus on it too much, and you'll begin to think that Drew Bledsoe was better than mediocre. Newton had 35 TDs to 10 INTs (notably better than any Bills QB in team history) and averaged a strong 7.8 yards per attempt. He led the league in TD percentage per pass thrown too. You do realize that he threw for fewer yards in 2015 because they almost always had the lead, don't you?? The Panthers led the league in scoring that year, for chrissake, but guess what: they were 27th in pass attempts! As for last year, no Bills QB has thrown for more TDs as Newton did since Jim Kelly in 1991. Do better.

Edited July 19, 2019 by dave mcbride

[Mr. WEO]

23 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Raw yardage is a sucker stat. Focus on it too much, and you'll begin to think that Drew Bledsoe was better than mediocre. Newton had 35 TDs to 10 INTs (notably better than any Bills QB in team history) and averaged a strong 7.8 yards per attempt. He led the league in TD percentage per pass thrown too. You do realize that he threw for fewer yards in 2015 because they almost always had the lead, don't you?? The Panthers led the league in scoring that year, for chrissake, but guess what: they were 27th in pass attempts! As for last year, no Bills QB has thrown for more TDs as Newton did since Jim Kelly in 1991. Do better.

 

I conceded that was his best year.  It was 4 seasons ago.  In the subsequent 3 seasons, Carolina was 15th, 12th and 14th in scoring.

 

And, really, buttressing you point by comparing Newton's anemic TD tally last season to the litany of mediocre or worse QBs the Bills have pushed onto the field since Kelly?  Come on!--You can do better.   The "mediocre" Bledsoe was still cranking out 23, 24 TD seasons back in a completely different NFL 10 years into his career.  In fact, the year before he finally retired, he was putting up Current Cam Newton stats for his 3rd team (also a 15th ranked offense).  That was 15 years ago.

 

That team will continue to struggle putting up points with Newton passing.  Their D is sputtering and he looks a lot different without a lead to save (last 3 seasons).

 

 

 

 

[Figster]

29 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I conceded that was his best year.  It was 4 seasons ago.  In the subsequent 3 seasons, Carolina was 15th, 12th and 14th in scoring.

 

And, really, buttressing you point by comparing Newton's anemic TD tally last season to the litany of mediocre or worse QBs the Bills have pushed onto the field since Kelly?  Come on!--You can do better.   The "mediocre" Bledsoe was still cranking out 23, 24 TD seasons back in a completely different NFL 10 years into his career.  In fact, the year before he finally retired, he was putting up Current Cam Newton stats for his 3rd team (also a 15th ranked offense).  That was 15 years ago.

 

That team will continue to struggle putting up points with Newton passing.  Their D is sputtering and he looks a lot different without a lead to save (last 3 seasons).

 

 

 

 

Lets not forget Newton has also scored a career 58 TD's on the ground.  Combined run and pass 28 more TD's then RW at this point in their pro careers. RW 212, Cam Newton 240

 

(Cam has started 10 more games then RW)

 

 

[Big C]

Allen is built like Cam, but if he can play like Russell with that build he would be one of the greatest to play the game.

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I conceded that was his best year.  It was 4 seasons ago.  In the subsequent 3 seasons, Carolina was 15th, 12th and 14th in scoring.

 

And, really, buttressing you point by comparing Newton's anemic TD tally last season to the litany of mediocre or worse QBs the Bills have pushed onto the field since Kelly?  Come on!--You can do better.   The "mediocre" Bledsoe was still cranking out 23, 24 TD seasons back in a completely different NFL 10 years into his career.  In fact, the year before he finally retired, he was putting up Current Cam Newton stats for his 3rd team (also a 15th ranked offense).  That was 15 years ago.

 

That team will continue to struggle putting up points with Newton passing.  Their D is sputtering and he looks a lot different without a lead to save (last 3 seasons).

 

 

 

 

My view that Bledsoe was mediocre rests on the fact that he was a terrible QB when facing winning teams. I can't scare up his record against winning teams at the moment, but it was scary bad -- much worse than one would expect -- and much commented on at the time when he was playing. 

[Mr. WEO]

20 minutes ago, Figster said:

Lets not forget Newton has also scored a career 58 TD's on the ground.  Combined run and pass 28 more TD's then RW at this point in their pro careers. RW 212, Cam Newton 240

 

(Cam has started 10 more games then RW)

 

 

 

So you would take Newton over Wilson as your QB because he is mainly a threat to score while running?  You can have him!

 

Their  career trajectories are diverging for the past 3 seasons.

 

4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

My view that Bledsoe was mediocre rests on the fact that he was a terrible QB when facing winning teams. I can't scare up his record against winning teams at the moment, but it was scary bad -- much worse than one would expect -- and much commented on at the time when he was playing. 

 

They both lost a SB.  One is 3-4 in playoffs, the other 3-3. 

[dave mcbride]

25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

 

They both lost a SB.  One is 3-4 in playoffs, the other 3-3. 

That's such a garbage stat. Newton's playoff performance is in line with his regular season performance - an 87.7 rating. Bledsoe's?? His postseason rating is 54.9, and in his three "wins," the offense put up 228, 234, and 346 yards. In that game where they put 346 yards, it was mostly rushing - Bledsoe was 14-24 for 164 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, and a 58.3 rating. They won both of those games that season because of Belichick, who was the d coordinator by that point of the 1996 season. Not because of Bledsoe *by any stretch*. (I watched those games and remember them quite well.)

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 hours ago, Figster said:

If I had to choose between RW and CN, I'm taking Cam.

 

What intrigues me is we have a QB with the same size and skill set as Cam Newton, but smarter.

 

...DEAD on 'Fig.......smarter, humble and respectful of the game.......a recent Josh quote, "OUR team and OUR family" says it all........versus Cam at the podium with his fedora talkin' "about me".....

Edited July 19, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Mr. WEO]

31 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

That's such a garbage stat. Newton's playoff performance is in line with his regular season performance - an 87.7 rating. Bledsoe's?? His postseason rating is 54.9, and in his three "wins," the offense put up 228, 234, and 346 yards. In that game where they put 346 yards, it was mostly rushing - Bledsoe was 14-24 for 164 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, and a 58.3 rating. They won both of those games that season because of Belichick, who was the d coordinator by that point of the 1996 season. Not because of Bledsoe *by any stretch*. (I watched those games and remember them quite well.)

 

Ok

[Buffalo Barbarian]

 

 

[eball]

On 7/18/2019 at 7:42 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

 I just get amazed how undervalued Newton is here. He is a borderline HOFer

 

 

In what league?  Sorry, he's not close at this point in his career.  Russell Wilson blows him away for example; their accomplishments are not even in the same ballpark.

 

Cam has three winning seasons and five losing ones.  He hasn't put back-to-back winning seasons together in his career.  His career QB rating is 86.  Throws just under 23 TDs per season (and 13 picks).  He has not elevated his team.

 

Wilson hasn't had a losing season out of seven.  Career rating of 100.  Throws 28 TDs per season and only 9 picks.  And get this -- Russell averages more yards per carry over his career than Cam (5.7 to 5.2).

 

Wilson can already get himself fitted for a gold jacket.  Cam needs some significant performances over the next five years to get into that conversation.

 

Cam is all hype.  Wilson is the real deal.  I hope Allen takes after the latter.

 

 

[BillsFan1988]

On 7/19/2019 at 1:59 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Not lately.  Seahawks haven't had a top 10 D (scoring or yards) for the past 2 years.  In 2017, Wilson scored 37 of the team's 38 TDs (and STILL didn't win the MVP).

 

Other than perhaps Brady and Rodgers, Wilson has the best vision in the game.  He's very smart, freakishly athletic and has a big arm.  

 

That's the guy I want Allen to be.  Not rock-head Cam Newton.

I agree with u whole heartedly but if we want Allen to be like anyone why not go for Aaron Rodgers with legs. 

[Buffalo Boy]

11 hours ago, eball said:

  He has not elevated his team.

Did you SEE who his receivers were is 2015 when he was league MVP????

Benjamin, Rookie Funchess, Corey(Phily) Brown, Damiere Byrd, Ted Ginn ( sucked up to playing with Cam) Jericho Crochetty, Brenton Bersin....

Cam has consistently had crappy O-Lines and piss poor receiving Corps.....

Without Cam carrying that team they would have had NO winning seasons

 

Edited July 21, 2019 by Buffalo Boy

[C.Biscuit97]

On 7/20/2019 at 8:48 AM, eball said:

 

 

In what league?  Sorry, he's not close at this point in his career.  Russell Wilson blows him away for example; their accomplishments are not even in the same ballpark.

 

Cam has three winning seasons and five losing ones.  He hasn't put back-to-back winning seasons together in his career.  His career QB rating is 86.  Throws just under 23 TDs per season (and 13 picks).  He has not elevated his team.

 

Wilson hasn't had a losing season out of seven.  Career rating of 100.  Throws 28 TDs per season and only 9 picks.  And get this -- Russell averages more yards per carry over his career than Cam (5.7 to 5.2).

 

Wilson can already get himself fitted for a gold jacket.  Cam needs some significant performances over the next five years to get into that conversation.

 

Cam is all hype.  Wilson is the real deal.  I hope Allen takes after the latter.

 

 

Eball logic:

 

cam - heisman, Ncaa championship, rookie passing records, NFL MVP, SB runner up = hype

 

Allen - 56% college passer in the MWC, didn’t make either all MWC teams his last year, 52% nfl passer, more ints than tds = hope

[eball]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Eball logic:

 

cam - heisman, Ncaa championship, rookie passing records, NFL MVP, SB runner up = hype

 

Allen - 56% college passer in the MWC, didn’t make either all MWC teams his last year, 52% nfl passer, more ints than tds = hope

Please tell me where I mentioned Josh Allen anywhere in my post other than to say I hope he models himself after Russell Wilson. 
 

You’re a dolt. Get a grip. And please tell me why having hope for Josh Allen is a bad thing or something to be ridiculed?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, eball said:

Please tell me where I mentioned Josh Allen anywhere in my post other than to say I hope he models himself after Russell Wilson. 
 

You’re a dolt. Get a grip. And please tell me why having hope for Josh Allen is a bad thing or something to be ridiculed?

 

Pizza cutter behavior. All edge no point

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Eball logic:

 

cam - heisman, Ncaa championship, rookie passing records, NFL MVP, SB runner up = hype

 

Allen - 56% college passer in the MWC, didn’t make either all MWC teams his last year, 52% nfl passer, more ints than tds = hope

I don't get comparing him to a player that has been in the league a while? how many nfl games has JA played?

 

so what I'm getting from this is that no one should have any hope for JA based off his college career and his rookie season.

 

biscuit here, mr. stats man has made it clear that everyone is just wasting their time hoping JA makes it in the nfl.

 

give me a ***** break

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo716]

I don't think he should mold his game after Cam but Cam is probably the closest physical comparison

 

That doesn't mean he should play like him

[reddogblitz]

On 7/19/2019 at 2:58 AM, Chemical said:

Dk metcalf will have 10TDs at least next year. How many yards will Devin singletary have ?

 

2019

[Ol Dirty B]

On 7/18/2019 at 4:17 PM, Shaw66 said:

I don't think Allen is anything like Newton, and I doubt Beane ever though so, either.  

 

Granted, they both are big and they both can run, but Allen's game is throwing the ball.  Cam isn't all that good a thrower.  

 

Idk he looks pretty similar when they run that draw out of the spread...

[njbuff]

Josh Allen should model his game after..................

 

Ummmmmmmm.....................

 

Josh Allen.

 

Josh Allen is his own species. If we learned anything from his rookie season is that he is a unique talent. No comparisons needed.

Edited July 22, 2019 by njbuff

[Thurman#1]

On 7/19/2019 at 10:16 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Correct, I said many think they selected a player who had similarities to Cam, and are modeling the offense after the Panthers. it’s been discussed a lot. Hopefully thread title was clear.  As far as Beane “hinting” about it being Russell Wilson, that was the reporter’s title 

 

 

Really? Was it the reporter who wrote that title? At newspapers, the reporters don't write the titles. And since nothing in the article says what the title does, I'd bet the same is true here ... that some editor somewhere looking for more hits jazzed up the headline by overpromising what was in the article.

 

So what Beane actually said was nothing more than that Beane wants Allen to do a better job of balancing the run and the pass, and that one example of a guy who did that was Wilson.

 

So, your title, "Many think Beane believes Allen should model his game after cam Newton ... but he hints it's actually Russell Wilson," has nothing in it of anything Beane actually said or implied. That headline is half your own mention of Cam and half a headline written by we know not who ... and nothing Beane actually said or implied.

 

What the reporter actually says in the article is simply that he used Wilson as an example. Your headline doesn't represent at all what the reporter was saying or what Beane said. I know it's the offseason but jeez.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 22, 2019 by Thurman#1