Zeke in Cuffs after argument w/ GF

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

16 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

i guess that’s who shot the video and sold it to tmz 

 

I gotcha- see my wild speculation above. 

 

ehhh  not sold.

 

the person taking the video was trying to hide their actions.   you could see them turning the phone slightly away when Zeke was facing him.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

ehhh  not sold.

 

the person taking the video was trying to hide their actions.   you could see them turning the phone slightly away when Zeke was facing him.  

 

Obviosly not a good babysitter? Or not paid well enough ??

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

Normal conversation where he uses his body (which is at least twice as big as her) to block her from walking away?  Getting in the face of an event staffer then using his forearm to push him to the ground?  I say Zeke looks to be a straight up thug.

 

He is a straight up thug.  He often travels with personal security, part of whose job is to restrain Zeke from thuggery that would get him in trouble.  BIF (basis in fact) - I have personally witnessed Zeke's personal security restrain him from getting into an altercation with a 5'6-ish high school coach.

 

The surprise is that he managed to get in trouble anyway - either he dropped the security or they were off taking a leak.

 

 

 

 

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Rob's House might have been a little tongue in cheek saying he should be shot.

 

That said, that "kind of thing" never happened to me between the ages of 18 and my current age of 35. And I have spent plenty of that period in crowded bars.

As you have aged have you gotten rowdier or more mellow? Every once in a while a detect a trace of pugnacity when challenged by bulletin board hooligans. 

[YoloinOhio]

33 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He is a straight up thug.  He often travels with personal security, part of whose job is to restrain Zeke from thuggery that would get him in trouble.  BIF (basis in fact) - I have personally witnessed Zeke's personal security restrain him from getting into an altercation with a 5'6-ish high school coach.

 

The surprise is that he managed to get in trouble anyway - either he dropped the security or they were off taking a leak.

 

 

 

 

He does a lot of drugs, but is smart enough to get around the tests. If not in a program you only get tested once/year on April 20.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 hours ago, Augie said:

Guilty? Innocent? I don’t know. But I do know that when the same stuff seems to follow one guy around, there’s an issue of some type. 

 

Yeah, when stuff happens to a guy over and over and over again...it ain't them, it's him.

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I think Rob's House might have been a little tongue in cheek saying he should be shot.

 

Perhaps.  Not appropriate here.

 

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

That said, that "kind of thing" never happened to me between the ages of 18 and my current age of 35. And I have spent plenty of that period in crowded bars.

 

Yes, exactly.

[Sherlock Holmes]

7 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

1) What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.....unless

2) You have previously been involved in a physical altercation, and

3) You are a multi-millionaire who plays a game, and

4) You have a goofy reverse-Carrot top haircut. 

Then all bets are off. 

 

Ohhhhhh, just waiting for someone to ask if we should “kick the tires on Zeke”....if that happens I’ll kick my dog. 

So we can't take a peek at Zeke cause he kicks his GFs but kicking tires and dogs is ok??

[Matt_In_NH]

why was my post deleted?

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

People think I’m crazy but with all the contracts they need done in Dallas, I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t pay Zeke. I think they will give him the DeMarco Murray treatment this year and run him into the ground, then they may let him walk, as good as he is. 

They could pick up the 5th year option.....but I agree with you I wouldn't give this clown a lot of guaranteed money.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

So we can't take a peek at Zeke cause he kicks his GFs but kicking tires and dogs is ok??

 

BringBackFergy will not kick his dog.  If he does, his wife and family will surely kick HIM. ?

 

5 minutes ago, mattynh said:

why was my post deleted?

 

What name did you post it with?

Need that info to find it and explain.

 

(I can't find a post by user mattynh that was deleted recently)

[Lurker]

Yawn.   Waste of a good 30 seconds watching that...

[hondo in seattle]

8 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

Clearly he's drunk. With his money and past problems he should hire a babysitter for himself.

 

A friend of mine was once asked to babysit an actress while filming a movie on location.  Her mission was to keep the actress - a big partier but not an addict - away from drugs.

Well, that's quite the challenge.  How do you entertain a partier without parties?  Museums???  Parks???  My friend decided to throw drug-free (but not alcohol-free) parties at nice locations around the city.  She says the plan worked - but only because of the limited length of the shoot.  She couldn't have kept the actress out of trouble much longer.

 

So my question is, how does a babysitter keep a trouble-maker out of trouble?  I don't think you can expect sustainable success.   People are who they are.  Maybe a life-coach would be better than a baby-sitter.  Maybe not. 

Edited May 21, 2019 by hondo in seattle

[GunnerBill]

51 minutes ago, JohnC said:

As you have aged have you gotten rowdier or more mellow? Every once in a while a detect a trace of pugnacity when challenged by bulletin board hooligans. 

 

Ha - I am verbally pugnacious but not physically so. I am much more likely to want to have a legal debate with said security officer about his rights and obligations rather than want to have a shoving match with him. All about knowing where one's skills and abilities lie John.

[JohnC]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Ha - I am verbally pugnacious but not physically so. I am much more likely to want to have a legal debate with said security officer about his rights and obligations rather than want to have a shoving match with him. All about knowing where one's skills and abilities lie John.

You are loquacious and garrulous. You are fine by me.  

[BringBackFergy]

20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

BringBackFergy will not kick his dog.  If he does, his wife and family will surely kick HIM. ?

 

 

 

Not to derail a perfectly good thread, but about ten years ago we had family over and I laid 7 nice beef filets on a baking sheet to rest before grilling them. They were wrapped in bacon. Light salt and pepper. On the kitchen counter. Went out to check the grill and came back to find 3 1/2 remaining. Our two labs (now RIP) were looking at me guilty as hell.  My wife would have easily kicked them or given me the go ahead.  Our current dogs have the same mind set but I watch them like a hawk whenever there's food around. 

[aristocrat]

he just keeps doing dumb stuff while drunk. gonna have a tough time getting a second deal

[Gugny]

31 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Not to derail a perfectly good thread, but about ten years ago we had family over and I laid 7 nice beef filets on a baking sheet to rest before grilling them. They were wrapped in bacon. Light salt and pepper. On the kitchen counter. Went out to check the grill and came back to find 3 1/2 remaining. Our two labs (now RIP) were looking at me guilty as hell.  My wife would have easily kicked them or given me the go ahead.  Our current dogs have the same mind set but I watch them like a hawk whenever there's food around. 

 

How many pieces of charcoal would one use in order to properly cook 7 steaks on a grill?  You think 13 would do it?

[Mr. WEO]

10 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t suggest you wear a tube top around him.

 

 

Why not?  He does..

 

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

When I heard about this, I assumed the security guy flopped when Zeke leaned on him, but that is not the case, he did actually shove him as he was losing his balance. What a dumb ass.  Not enough to suspend, but definitely not a good look either.

[Malazan]

Players want a longer off season, but a longer offseason means they have a lot more time to do stupid **** and get arrested thus getting them fines and suspensions. I think what we have here is a catch-22

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

None of what you described above is normal or accepted behavior.  In fact, what you described is a horrible, toxic relationship between two abusive people.

 

And where, pray tell did you get your statistic about this happening every single night to the majority of males aged 18-30?

 

 

 

I guess maybe you misunderstood me. 

 

Maybe youve never ever been in a bar fight. That’s probably a good thing. Maybe you’ve never been around people when you were younger that weren’t good for you. Great. 

 

Lots of young men aren’t as lucky. Even ones with millions of dollars and fan “support”. 

 

The internet is a really convenient place to dismiss those things and say thoughtless things like “he should be shot”. 

 

Give me all the frowny faces you want. It’s clear that Elliot is troubled. “Putting him down” is never an answer for something as childish (which is what this is) as this. 

[StHustle]

Too many idiotic statements in this thread to count. Zeke isnt the second coming Greg Hardy. He actually is a really good dude who needs to stop drinking (you can bet your bottom dollar his first incident involved alcohol). Calling him a "thug" is overreaction of the year material.

[blacklabel]

3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

Wasn’t that a Doug Marrone saying? 

 

(No I don’t kick my dogs)

 

Haha. I think Marrone said after a game that he was so worked up over something that he would go home and "probably not even pet my dog." Moody guy, that Marrone.

 

And Zeke is a great big turd sammich. I sincerely hope he smacks his toes off of every piece of furniture he owns. I hope his car runs out of washer fluid at a really inopportune time. I hope the postal services misplaces his packages. I hope he drops his phone in the terlet. I hope his shoes fit poorly so that when he walks he gets a giant blister on his heel. Minor inconveniences because, I, too, like to live dangerously.

27 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

 

I guess maybe you misunderstood me. 

 

Maybe youve never ever been in a bar fight. That’s probably a good thing. Maybe you’ve never been around people when you were younger that weren’t good for you. Great. 

 

Lots of young men aren’t as lucky. Even ones with millions of dollars and fan “support”. 

 

The internet is a really convenient place to dismiss those things and say thoughtless things like “he should be shot”. 

 

Give me all the frowny faces you want. It’s clear that Elliot is troubled. “Putting him down” is never an answer for something as childish (which is what this is) as this. 

 

I don't think he's "troubled" so much as he's arrogant and irresponsible.

[MJS]

Good to see he's still a scumbag.

[Nelius]

4 hours ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

 

You expect us all to to believe that you’ve never been at a concert or a crowded bar, and some jackwagon security guy gets mouthy, you’ve had a few to many, your gf/wife says “STOP IT!” In that voice of hers that makes you nuts, you start yelling and pushing and the next thing you know, the cops are telling you to calm down and that you can get out of the cuffs as soon as you calm down. 

 

 

LOL what? Dude if my wife had a voice that made me fly into an unconscious rage she probably wouldn't be my wife, and I'd probably need to be on more meds. I don't believe this is as common of a scenario as you think.

[MJS]

33 minutes ago, StHustle said:

Too many idiotic statements in this thread to count. Zeke isnt the second coming Greg Hardy. He actually is a really good dude who needs to stop drinking (you can bet your bottom dollar his first incident involved alcohol). Calling him a "thug" is overreaction of the year material.

He's a woman beater.

[Gugny]

35 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

 

I guess maybe you misunderstood me. 

 

Maybe youve never ever been in a bar fight. That’s probably a good thing. Maybe you’ve never been around people when you were younger that weren’t good for you. Great. 

 

Lots of young men aren’t as lucky. Even ones with millions of dollars and fan “support”. 

 

The internet is a really convenient place to dismiss those things and say thoughtless things like “he should be shot”. 

 

Give me all the frowny faces you want. It’s clear that Elliot is troubled. “Putting him down” is never an answer for something as childish (which is what this is) as this. 

 

So you think that a man with a history of beating women having to be restrained after being confronted about a heated exchange with another woman ... you think that's "childish."

 

On top of saying that this happens, "every single night to the majority of males aged 18-30?"

 

I don't think I'm misunderstanding anything.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

11 hours ago, KD in CA said:

Not much to debate on the first two.   On the third one....he'll weed himself out soon enough.

Over/under on first "Zeke is broke and living in someone's trailer" story is in July 2024.

 

Nah.  He's got a decent family, actually.  I'm sure they've got a good chunk of his change invested reasonably so he can't do a Vince Young.

[Happy]

39 minutes ago, StHustle said:

Too many idiotic statements in this thread to count. Zeke isnt the second coming Greg Hardy. He actually is a really good dude who needs to stop drinking (you can bet your bottom dollar his first incident involved alcohol). Calling him a "thug" is overreaction of the year material.

 

The bolded is not true.

 

While the 2017 domestic violence incident is clouded, he returns to the news in 2019 for violent behavior again.  Zeke travels with a security detail to help keep him out of trouble, though their effectiveness in their mission can be questioned.  Twice doesn't necessarily make a trend, but one seems to be forming.

 

Zeke admits he likes to party and drink lots of alcohol; a lot of us do, only in a more responsible manner.  He also admits he did drugs in college.  Hard to believe Zeke stopped once he got to the NFL.  A poster knowledgeable in the workings of the NFL earlier in this thread has stated that Zeke still does drugs, but is smart enough to avoid testing positive for it in late April.  Zeke is a thug, and at the least, an irresponsible goon.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

48 minutes ago, StHustle said:

Too many idiotic statements in this thread to count. Zeke isnt the second coming Greg Hardy. He actually is a really good dude who needs to stop drinking (you can bet your bottom dollar his first incident involved alcohol). Calling him a "thug" is overreaction of the year material.

 

One is curious as to your basis for saying "he actually is a really good dude"

Under what circumstances and how many times have you personally met?

 

Or what is your other basis for saying so?

 

Look, NFL athletes are by their nature high energy, highly physical, and highly competitive.  Some of them know how to rein it in, play whistle to whistle, and ARE really good dudes off the field.

 

But a guy who can't or doesn't consistently, well, I dunno if I'd call him a "really good dude".  I'm sure Zeke has a good side - most of us do - but genuine "really good dudes" don't need to be knocking down women, security guards, trying to charge onto HS basketball courts after the opposing team's coach 'cuz they don't like a call against a family member, running across the field from the sideline to join into a brawl etc etc etc.

[KD in CA]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

he just keeps doing dumb stuff while drunk. gonna have a tough time getting a second deal

 

Especially given the typically short shelf life of power backs.  He’ll likely have 1400 carries at the end of his rookie deal.  Smart teams will recognize that the decline will begin early.

[formerlyofCtown]

10 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

Clearly he's drunk. With his money and past problems he should hire a babysitter for himself.

Does he have a fall guy??

[BillsfanAZ]

I dont know enough about him to call him a thug but just from watching the video he did enough to land himself in jail. Putting your hands on someone who is part of the staff who is backing away would get you arrested most places. 

[formerlyofCtown]

2 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Especially given the typically short shelf life of power backs.  He’ll likely have 1400 carries at the end of his rookie deal.  Smart teams will recognize that the decline will begin early.

He may ask for a bottle of Gin as a signing bonus.

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

20 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

So you think that a man with a history of beating women having to be restrained after being confronted about a heated exchange with another woman ... you think that's "childish."

 

On top of saying that this happens, "every single night to the majority of males aged 18-30?"

 

I don't think I'm misunderstanding anything.

 

But did you watch the video? What did he do? He was acting like a child. He was inebriated, and he got mouthy. It happens every day. Maybe not on the bright shining hill that you clearly live on, but everywhere else, people act stupid when they get drunk or take drugs. 

 

You are trying to make some kind of inference into what my original point was.

 

Saying he needs to be shot is heavy handed, and unwarranted. The kid needs help. I say kid because while his body may be developed, his brain clearly is not. 

 

If that merits a bullet, this world is going to have a lot less people In it 

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

 

But did you watch the video? What did he do? He was acting like a child. He was inebriated, and he got mouthy. It happens every day. Maybe not on the bright shining hill that you clearly live on, but everywhere else, people act stupid when they get drunk or take drugs. 

 

You are trying to make some kind of inference into what my original point was.

 

Saying he needs to be shot is heavy handed, and unwarranted. The kid needs help. I say kid because while his body may be developed, his brain clearly is not. 

 

If that merits a bullet, this world is going to have a lot less people In it 

 

I had nothing to do with the "shot," comment, which is why I've completely avoided that during my responses to what you've written.

 

You're speculating that this "kid needs help."

 

I'm dealing with facts.  He's a woman abuser.  Being drunk, young or immature are not valid excuses for beating women; there are no valid excuses.

 

Lastly, on my bright shining hill, I've beet shitfaced many times and dabbled in my fair share of drugs in my younger days.  I've been in bar fights.  I've hung around bad influences.  Guess what .... never hit a chick. 

 

It's not normal.  It's not acceptable and it can never be justified (other than self-defense, obviously).

 

Have a great day.

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

11 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I had nothing to do with the "shot," comment, which is why I've completely avoided that during my responses to what you've written.

 

You're speculating that this "kid needs help."

 

I'm dealing with facts.  He's a woman abuser.  Being drunk, young or immature are not valid excuses for beating women; there are no valid excuses.

 

Lastly, on my bright shining hill, I've beet shitfaced many times and dabbled in my fair share of drugs in my younger days.  I've been in bar fights.  I've hung around bad influences.  Guess what .... never hit a chick. 

 

It's not normal.  It's not acceptable and it can never be justified (other than self-defense, obviously).

 

Have a great day.

 

Cool. 

 

I never said it was ok. You got upset because i said he needed help, not a bullet. 

 

Clearly, we have misunderstood each other on this. 

[BillsMafia13]

4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I  got to the point where he "staggered" very close to a guy saying "You got something to say" who backed off and tripped over the barricade.  

Other than the challenging words ....   a nothing burger.  

 

 

 

who's the stalker taking the video? 

Even though it is small that should be considered some kind of assault, which even surprises me to say.  Zeke clearly imposed his size, walked him down and kept advancing til the guy ran out of room.  Its not striking in the face but the guy held his ground and Zeke crossed the line where the guy had no where else to go.  If he fell over the barricade and broke an ankle would that be different?

[StHustle]

41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

One is curious as to your basis for saying "he actually is a really good dude"

Under what circumstances and how many times have you personally met?

 

Or what is your other basis for saying so?

 

Look, NFL athletes are by their nature high energy, highly physical, and highly competitive.  Some of them know how to rein it in, play whistle to whistle, and ARE really good dudes off the field.

 

But a guy who can't or doesn't consistently, well, I dunno if I'd call him a "really good dude".  I'm sure Zeke has a good side - most of us do - but genuine "really good dudes" don't need to be knocking down women, security guards, trying to charge onto HS basketball courts after the opposing team's coach 'cuz they don't like a call against a family member, running across the field from the sideline to join into a brawl etc etc etc.

 

I call him a good dude based on his many charitable acts including paying for the recent funeral of a high schooler who was murdered. I take issue with the "thug" title so quickly placed on people with a specific skin tone when they get in trouble with the law. Anyone with their eyes open would know exactly what I'm talking about.

 

Anyway...you can ask the 10 people in the world who know me the best and they will all say I'm a great guy. When I was younger I had an alcohol and drug issue and got arrested a few times, once when I was 19 for a domestic after a live in girlfriend smacked me in my face and I grabbed her by her arms to keep her from swinging again. Well cause she fought me so hard to get free it left bruises and I'm sure people in here would now say I'm a "thug" for this but most you people are hipocrites and need to actually consider your past issues and don't discount them cause you didn't get caught. And some of you need to consider why a specific demographic gets called a thug while others who look different don't get that title. 

 

Zeke is nowhere near a thug but rather a good hearted kid with a substance abuse issue which likely causes a short temper and bad decision making when under the influence. 

 

 

[D521646]

Didn't seem like much to me.  I would expect this kind of stuff at large events, in fact, it happens all the time when dealing with drunk dudes, and girls.  One thing I would say though, is, what the hell was his girlfriend wearing?  Did someone not tell her she looked stupid in the getup?  LOL

 

 

Tim-

[C.Biscuit97]

14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Is her name Molly?

That was my first thought watching that video.  But surely no one at a EDM festival would do drugs!!! Much less a football player (though Molly doesn’t stay in your system like the dreaded marijuana!!).

 

im not saying he is guilty in every case but he seems like a moron, starting with his awful draft suit.