Augie Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I’m thrilled to get Oliver. I was hopeful a while ago, then I lost hope, and now I’m thrilled. Pressure up the middle! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: They need DL, OL maybe Jawaan Taylor? Ford or Risner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Doc said: The Cheaters haven't been good at drafting WR's under Belicheat. And again, the Bills aren't taking a WR before day 3, if even. That would be a mistake, but not a surprise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Happy with the way the 1st round evolved. We filled I think our most immediate and pressing need on defense with Oliver. You can really tell he's really a McDermott guy in terms of character. I really wanted Hockenson, but obviously we weren't given the chance to get him. I expect Smith, Metcalf, or Taylor with our 1st pick in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I guess this is the part where we freak out because the Patriots drafted a receiver. Who was their last 1st round draft pick to make a big difference? Receivers have always taken time to develop as well. Even if he becomes a great one, it’s possible Brady will be gone by that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 The DK hype and Harry ‘skill’ are analysts and fans moving to fantasy footballs DK gets hyped because maybe he can put up a ton of points. NK gets pushed down by pundits because he’ll jusr be consistently productive. I will say, with the way the draft fell, I thought for sure NH would fall to the second. Would be worth a trade up into the 33-38 range for him. Didn’t think the Pats would take him at 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: I really thought they were going for Lock on this pick Tawmy nixed any QB pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Cards talking Rosen trade with Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Jawaan Taylor Cody Ford Greedy Williams Byron Murphy DK Metcalf I'm pretty shocked that none of these players went in the 1st round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Cards talking Rosen trade with Miami. I expect that to go through, but I don't like it. Rosen is written off on here but he shouldn't be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Jawaan Taylor Cody Ford Greedy Williams Byron Murphy DK Metcalf I'm pretty shocked that none of these players went in the 1st round. I think they will be gone before the Bills draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: Jawaan Taylor Cody Ford Greedy Williams Byron Murphy DK Metcalf I'm pretty shocked that none of these players went in the 1st round. Taylor’s medical must be really grim. metcalf’s deficiencies are well known after the combine. Greedy’s always been sketchy in general. the other 2 i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Oliver homerun rd 1. If they can snag a Metcalf or Butler at 40 they killed the bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Jawaan Taylor Cody Ford Greedy Williams Byron Murphy DK Metcalf I'm pretty shocked that none of these players went in the 1st round. Throw in the WRs that are still available and we can be pretty confident that the Bills are going to be getting an impact player tomorrow at 40. The board fell about as well as it could have for the Bills tonight. Ready to see what tomorrow brings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Goodell Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Thank you for coming out and we'll see you tomorrow night for rounds 2 and 3. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Roger Goodell said: Thank you for coming out and we'll see you tomorrow night for rounds 2 and 3. Boooo! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Happy with the way the 1st round evolved. We filled I think our most immediate and pressing need on defense with Oliver. You can really tell he's really a McDermott guy in terms of character. I really wanted Hockenson, but obviously we weren't given the chance to get him. I expect Smith, Metcalf, or Taylor with our 1st pick in the 2nd round. I really like the Oliver pick, but am hoping they are able to pickup a good TE prospect later that can both catch and block. I feel like the Bills have not had an offense that featured an impact TE for 20+ years - time to join the rest of the better offenses in the league who seem to have a clue about how to take advantage of that skill position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Nitro said: I think they will be gone before the Bills draft. Considering that’s 5 guys and the Bills pick 8th your odds of this bet are very bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Roger Goodell said: Thank you for coming out and we'll see you tomorrow night for rounds 2 and 3. Thanks, Roger Goodell's assistant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I don't care about how they're rated. Just glad Bills didn't force getting a TE. I mean maybe it's subjective given the QB and the OC but that's always been my point. The QB needs to be TE friendly the OC needs to get the TE involved. It rarely happens to be incredibly effective. Edge rushers are easier. Subjective? Maybe, but 2 10 sack (good DE #s) seasons from your 2 edge rushers is huge whereas 2 600 yard, 5TD seasons from your TE's (good TE #s) is.. pedestrian. Maybe there's no great example of a college team with top 2 impactful players in other positions.. I just witnessed a case study where top 2 TE's didn't work. TE production is too easy to replace. JMO. Citing Iowa. And thinking of so many other highly rated TEs. My original post was supposed to be read as a "super sick burn" on teams going Hockenson and Fant. Call it a hot take. But I predict the Bills and the teams drafting BPA after Fant are going to get much more impactful players than the Hockenson and Fant teams. Just like OJ Howard, Kellen Winslow II, Jeremy Shockey, Jermaine Gresham, Eric Ebron, or Vernon Davis. Heck I value RBs over TE. Most any position. I'll bet my Flutie Flakes Cole Beasley is a more productive safety valve than Fant. I rated Hockenson much higher than Fant because he catches everything, athletic enough to beat coverage (check the cone and shuttle drills), was awarded the Mackey award as the top TE in the nation (first time to a sophomore), declared early so still has room to grow, but was also a well above average blocker in just his first full year. So it would be like having an extra o-lineman to in pass-pro or to open holes for your RB, who could also beat LBs, S, and DBs for passes. Fant may develop into that all around TE and he is clearly the more freakish athlete, but the drops and subpar blocking left me leary and BTW they were rarely used on the field together which gave Hawkeye fans fits with how Ferentz was using them. I did not have any other TE's graded in the 1st, and if we pick up one later I don't want just an over-sized WR, I want a guy who has at least the foundation for becoming an effective blocker too. I had Oliver going to the Bills even if Hockenson was available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Irv Smith or one of Hakeem, Parris, Deebo, Andy Isabella and I'm happy. Risner is great, but I'm this team's weakness is now with skill positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 50 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Medicals could have made them take him off their board. There were people claiming that was the case. The medicals seemed to be inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Jawaan Taylor Cody Ford Greedy Williams Byron Murphy DK Metcalf I'm pretty shocked that none of these players went in the 1st round. The two corners especially. I have said for weeks I didn't think DK or Ford were 1st round locks. Taylor it seems to be an injury issue or else I am sure he would have been. With a lot of good players left I wouldn't be shocked if the Bills moved back a few spots in round 2 and then used the extra ammunition to come back up into the end of the 2nd to get two 2nd round picks. The guy to watch out for is Elgton Jenkins from Mississipi State. Think they see him as a guy who could start early at guard. Edited April 26, 2019 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: The medicals seemed to be inaccurate. For Sweat? or Taylor? sorry been posting in several threads. The Sweat medicals from the combine about his heart were said to be wrong but someone here posted that the Bills gave him an "F" based on medicals anyways and took him off their board completely. As far as Taylor goes, well, I think tonight speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, JoPar_v2 said: For Sweat? or Taylor? sorry been posting in several threads. The Sweat medicals from the combine about his heart were said to be wrong but someone here posted that the Bills gave him an "F" based on medicals anyways and took him off their board completely. As far as Taylor goes, well, I think tonight speaks for itself. Sweat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, formerlyofCtown said: Sweat. Right for Sweat it came out that the combine medical was misdiagnosed and his heart is fine. He still slipped, sucks for him. Taylor is much more mysterious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Right for Sweat it came out that the combine medical was misdiagnosed and his heart is fine. He still slipped, sucks for him. Taylor is much more mysterious. Must have interviewed badly or had character concerns. Or he switched medical charts with Sweat.? 4 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: 100 years of bad Giants football. Enjoy Allen scorching your defense. Yup its not like theyve won several SuperBowls right.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Quick thoughts from round 1: Gruden's pick 4 curveball. Seems like quite a reach. Giants selecting Daniel Jones at 6. ALSO seems like quite a reach. The above two things combined to make the Oliver to Bills outcome possible. Thanks Gruden and Gettleman! So glad I don't have to worry about Rashan Gary any more. So glad I don't have to spend any more mental energy on whether Jonah Williams is a tackle or a guard. TJ Hockenson, we hardly knew ye. Falcons were bummed that Dolphins took Wilkins. Atlanta stuck to their board, took Lindstrom at guard. Fans were not pleased. First one team jumped in front of poor Houston, but didn't take a tackle. Then a SECOND team jumped in front of Houston, and this one DID take a tackle. Houston was stuck reaching for Dillard because they HAD to have a tackle. See "painting yourself into a corner and having to draft for need". Brian Burns to Panthers is a perfect fit. N'Keal Harry to Patriots really surprised me. I thought the Raiders draft stunk from top to bottom. I don't see any of the three guys they drafted being true difference makers. Onto round 2! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Golden Goat said: I'm watching ABC's coverage and am bored out of my mind. It is the draft after all! Not a lot to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Let’s hope for a DB run here in the second! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Logic said: Falcons were bummed that Dolphins took Wilkins. Atlanta stuck to their board, took Lindstrom at guard. Fans were not pleased. I would have been too. This is where "bpa" is shown to fail. It's also why I'm just not excited with our first round. I could end up being wrong, but I have doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I would have been too. This is where "bpa" is shown to fail. It's also why I'm just not excited with our first round. I could end up being wrong, but I have doubts. What are your concerns with Oliver? I was hoping for Allen, but once he was gone, I was all-in on Oliver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 45 minutes ago, Gugny said: What are your concerns with Oliver? I was hoping for Allen, but once he was gone, I was all-in on Oliver. Size, playing against lesser competition in college. Also, he's a DT. DTs in general don't thrill me. I'm not saying it's a TERRIBLE pick mind you, just doesn't address many needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Size, playing against lesser competition in college. Also, he's a DT. DTs in general don't thrill me. I'm not saying it's a TERRIBLE pick mind you, just doesn't address many needs. We don't need it to address a need. He is an elite talent. This isn't a DT who is gonna just clog up lanes and play the run. This is a guy who will immediately be a pass rush weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Wow. The Packers can't stop drafting DBs. @Bill from NYC be glad you are not a Cheesehead. They even traded up to get a safety! I wouldn't do that unless my team was stacked at virtually position, and I thought that the safety was the next Ed Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: We don't need it to address a need. He is an elite talent. This isn't a DT who is gonna just clog up lanes and play the run. This is a guy who will immediately be a pass rush weapon. No? And what if the Bills use their next two picks on defense? Are we really going to hang our offensive hats on guys from the 4th round on AGAIN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Bill from NYC said: They even traded up to get a safety! I wouldn't do that unless my team was stacked at virtually position, and I thought that the safety was the next Ed Reed. A safety who I had as my 7th ranked at the position too. Really strange move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: A safety who I had as my 7th ranked at the position too. Really strange move. What I did notice last night is that trade downs didn't fetch big prices, or so it seemed. To be honest, I think that this is a very weak draft. JMO!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: No? And what if the Bills use their next two picks on defense? Are we really going to hang our offensive hats on guys from the 4th round on AGAIN? It depends how the board falls. Reaching for offensive players who are not talented enough to be picked in the spots you are drafting is s bad strategy. The best teams have elite difference makers. You should collect as many of those as you can. There wasn't a wide receiver in this class who met that description. That said I think we go offense with at least one of our two picks tonight. Just now, Bill from NYC said: What I did notice last night is that trade downs didn't fetch big prices, or so it seemed. To be honest, I think that this is a very weak draft. JMO!!!!!!! As a first round I think it had 6 guys who were head and shoulders clear of the rest and then a lot of guys who it was pay your money and take your choice on. Luckily the Bills got one of the 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Yup its not like theyve won several SuperBowls right.? that was the past, I was talking the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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