Buffalo716 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 The draft is finally almost here... there has been lots of talk about who the Bills should take at 9 and who the blue chip prospects are Another term you may possibly hear on draft day by pundits is a red star player... In the scouting community a red star player is a player who a scout believes will outperform his draft status, and then will usually pound the table for them Being able to key on players who can outperform their draft value is always critical... Matt Milano and Nigel Bradham were guys I keyed on as redstar players Who are some of your red star players ? Greg Little - Offensive Tackle - Ole Miss Andy Isabella - WR- UMASS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Myles Gaskin - RB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 N'Keal Harry - WR, if he goes in the 2nd round. I think he'll be one of those guys that gets taken in the 1st in those dumb "draft do-over's". 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 LJ Scott RB Jacai Polite DE Jaques Patrick RB Just now, MJS said: N'Keal Harry - WR, if he goes in the 2nd round. I think he'll be one of those guys that gets taken in the 1st in those dumb "draft do-over's". And this. Best receiving talent in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, MJS said: N'Keal Harry - WR, if he goes in the 2nd round. I think he'll be one of those guys that gets taken in the 1st in those dumb "draft do-over's". He is definitely one of those guys i just didnt want 2 second round picks as my red stars... even Isabella might end there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 WR's Parris Campbell and Hakeem Butler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) I expect these guys to go in rounds 4 through 7 and outperform their draft position. RB Justice Hill OT William Sweet WR Anthony Johnson QB Brett Rypien WR Gary Jennings Jr WR Dillon Mitchell EDGE Jaylon Ferguson G Ben Powers CB Iman Marshall TE Caleb Wilson DI Armon Watts CB Tim Harris LB Ben Burr-Kirvin EDGE Oshane Ximines RB David Montgomery TE Josh Oliver OT Yodney Cajuste RB Bryce Love Edited April 24, 2019 by Turk71 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 TEs Dawson Knox and Foster Moreau. OT Bobby Evans OG Ben Powers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Turk71 said: I expect these guys to go in rounds 4 through 7 and outperform their draft position. RB Justice Hill OT William Sweet WR Anthony Johnson QB Brett Rypien WR Gary Jennings Jr WR Dillon Mitchell EDGE Jaylon Ferguson G Ben Powers CB Iman Marshall TE Caleb Wilson DI Armon Watts CB Tim Harris LB Ben Burr-Kirvin EDGE Oshane Ximines RB David Montgomery TE Josh Oliver OT Yodney Cajuste RB Bryce Love Good list but I don’t expect all to be there in the rounds you listed Jaylon Ferguson i expect to go in the top 3 rounds but he most certainly is a red star player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Good list but I don’t expect all to be there in the rounds you listed Jaylon Ferguson i expect to go in the top 3 rounds but he most certainly is a red star player I agree, 2 or 3 them might be gone by end of the 3rd. I was trying for rounds 4 thru 7 but it is obviously an inexact science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: I agree, 2 or 3 them might be gone by end of the 3rd. I was trying for rounds 4 thru 7 but it is obviously an inexact science. A second round player can be a red star player its not necessarily a sleeper... it’s a player who will outplay his draft stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: N'Keal Harry - WR, if he goes in the 2nd round. I think he'll be one of those guys that gets taken in the 1st in those dumb "draft do-over's". I think Harry gets picked in the late first. The more I see the more I like about him. Was hoping he'd be a possible 2nd rounder but just don't see him lasting til then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Jaylon Ferguson will be gone by the 10th pick of round two but he will most likely still outplay his draft status. Josh Oliver, TE, San Jose State. Forget Hock and Fant and Irv Smith. Oliver has the highest ceiling of any TE in this class. If there is a Travis Kelce lurking somewhere this is him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: A second round player can be a red star player its not necessarily a sleeper... it’s a player who will outplay his draft stock I get that, I was looking for less obvious gems. On that note I add G Connor McGovern RB Miles Sanders G Chris Lindstrom OT Caleb McGary S Marquise Blair EDGE Maxx Crosby CB Rock Ya-Sin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: A second round player can be a red star player its not necessarily a sleeper... it’s a player who will outplay his draft stock Gronk was definitely a Red Star Player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: The draft is finally almost here... there has been lots of talk about who the Bills should take at 9 and who the blue chip prospects are Another term you may possibly hear on draft day by pundits is a red star player... In the scouting community a red star player is a player who a scout believes will outperform his draft status, and then will usually pound the table for them Being able to key on players who can outperform their draft value is always critical... Matt Milano and Nigel Bradham were guys I keyed on as redstar players Who are some of your red star players ? Greg Little - Offensive Tackle - Ole Miss Andy Isabella - WR- UMASS Trevon Wesco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Dawson Knox Daniel Wise Jazz Ferguson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: In the scouting community a red star player is a player who a scout believes will outperform his draft status, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 C/G Michael Jordan G Tyler Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They have a 5 year plan for that guy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Keelan Doss WR UC Davis. He will be selected in rounds 3-5 and will outperform many of the "bigger" name WR's selected before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Darius Slayton Miles Boykin Renell Wren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I will add CodyThompson WR Toledo. He will be a late round pick and I have a feeling he will be a very productive player for someone when he gets his opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Gronk was definitely a Red Star Player. Gronk was a first round talent with medical red flags that dragged his stock down. Everyone thought he would outperform his draft position *if* he was able to return to health from the back surgery he had at Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Irv Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Blake Cashman - LB (He's a bigger Matt Milano imo who can play inside or outside in a 4-3) Max Scharping - OT (He has 4th round tackle David Bakhtiari written all over him. Great size and good length with a nasty streak) Jaylon Ferguson - DE (Probably a second rounder, I think he might wind up the best edge player in the draft down the line) David Sills - (Smart player, former quarterback, good size and speed...Patriots esque receiver) Edited April 24, 2019 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I'll continue my homerism. Ricky Walker, DT, Virginia Tech. I will not be surprised in the slightest if we use a late round pick on him or snag him as a UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, JM57 said: Gronk was a first round talent with medical red flags that dragged his stock down. Everyone thought he would outperform his draft position *if* he was able to return to health from the back surgery he had at Arizona. Red Star means he outperformed his draft slot. Regardless of who knew. Not sure if you realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Jerry Tillery Anthony Johnson (ok, probably homer here, but suspect he'll be something special) Dalton Risner Drew Sample Tytus Howard Chauncey Gardner-Johnson (but that's probably more influenced by wanting to hear a lot of Being There/Chance The Gardner references) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Judging by what Robert Foster did last year and Daboll's familiarity with Alabama players I wonder if there will be any red star players coming from that school drafted by the Bills. If it weren't for the huge influx of OL in FA Ross Pierbacher might be a possibility. Another might be Christian Miller. Back at senior bowl DeMarkus Lodge was thought of as second round but hes dropped out of the top 4 rounds in most mocks now. I think that based on his college career hes very likely to be a red star. The safeties in round 2 are deep. some of those will be underdrafted and turn out to be great value. Bobby Evans three year starter at OT for Oklahoma? Hes getting less hype than Tytus Howard. He'd be a bargain in the 3rd. Edited April 24, 2019 by Seoulofstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Drue Tranquil, Alex Bars, Miles Boykin, Dexter Williams, Alize Mack - I feel like people are sleeping on ND 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Turk71 said: I expect these guys to go in rounds 4 through 7 and outperform their draft position. RB Justice Hill OT William Sweet WR Anthony Johnson QB Brett Rypien WR Gary Jennings Jr WR Dillon Mitchell EDGE Jaylon Ferguson G Ben Powers CB Iman Marshall TE Caleb Wilson DI Armon Watts CB Tim Harris LB Ben Burr-Kirvin EDGE Oshane Ximines RB David Montgomery TE Josh Oliver OT Yodney Cajuste RB Bryce Love Someone is going to get a steal here. Hopefully it's us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 JJ Arcega Whiteside Dillon Mitchell Chase Winovich Chauncey Gardner-Johnson David Montgomery Justice Hill Devin Bush (I think he will be better than Devin White) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) khalil hodge ? little bit of mack in him? Edited April 24, 2019 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: JJ Arcega Whiteside Dillon Mitchell Chase Winovich Chauncey Gardner-Johnson David Montgomery Justice Hill Devin Bush (I think he will be better than Devin White) good list. I forgot to list Winovich, the guy is incredibly athletic for his size and goes all out. 33 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: Someone is going to get a steal here. Hopefully it's us wonder if he makes it to the 4th, if so the Bills should snag him. He was incredible the year before last when he was healthy, would be psyched if they got him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Devine Ozigbo Diontae Johnson Ben Burr Kirven Ugo Amadi Khari Willis Are my guys then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said: Red Star means he outperformed his draft slot. Regardless of who knew. Not sure if you realize this. He was a first round prospect with medical red flags. How does one outperform a first round stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Jaylon Ferguson - DE (Probably a second rounder, I think he might wind up the best edge player in the draft down the line) I have a 1st on him and if the Bills were to trade back into the late teens I would be 100% on board with selecting Jaylon Ferguson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Jazz Ferguson I think Jazz Ferguson is likely to get overlooked because there have been a fair amount of big, useless, stiff WR's in the past decade but he's getting short changed if so, he's a guy who would have gotten 3rd round looks not that long ago. I gotta' throw Jalen Hurd into the mix. Seen him anywhere from top 100 to UDFA with draftniks so generally not as much of a sleeper as Ferguson. He's more likely to end up kicking around like Braxton Miller(another conversion type) than he is to become a star but he's one of many talented athletes available at WR and a guy who can run the ball as a big back from the backfield so he is a potential space saver for an NFL roster. I like his RAC ability..........he can catch a ball with his back to the defense and shed a block then turn into a RB. He's got some matchup potential as a legit run threat that can start in the backfield then go into the slot and run a zone beating TE route and turn it into a 15-20 yard gain with RAC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He's "retired." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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