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Blake Cashman - LB (He's a bigger Matt Milano imo who can play inside or outside in a 4-3)

Max Scharping - OT (He has 4th round tackle David Bakhtiari written all over him. Great size and good length with a nasty streak)

Jaylon Ferguson - DE (Probably a second rounder, I think he might wind up the best edge player in the draft down the line)

David Sills - (Smart player, former quarterback, good size and speed...Patriots esque receiver)

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I'll continue my homerism. Ricky Walker, DT, Virginia Tech. I will not be surprised in the slightest if we use a late round pick on him or snag him as a UDFA.

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53 minutes ago, JM57 said:

Gronk was a first round talent with medical red flags that dragged his stock down. Everyone thought he would outperform his draft position *if* he was able to return to health from the back surgery he had at Arizona.

Red Star means he outperformed his draft slot.  Regardless of who knew.

 

Not sure if you realize this.

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Jerry Tillery

Anthony Johnson (ok, probably homer here, but suspect he'll be something special)

Dalton Risner

Drew Sample

Tytus Howard

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson (but that's probably more influenced by wanting to hear a lot of Being There/Chance The Gardner references)

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Judging by what Robert Foster did last year and Daboll's familiarity with Alabama players I wonder if there will be any red star players coming from that school drafted by the Bills.

If it weren't for the huge influx of OL in FA Ross Pierbacher might be a possibility. Another might be Christian Miller.

 

Back at senior bowl DeMarkus Lodge was thought of as second round but hes dropped out of the top 4 rounds in most mocks now. I think that based on his college career hes very likely to be a red star.

 

  The safeties in round 2 are deep. some of those will be underdrafted and turn out to be great value.

 

  Bobby Evans three year starter at OT for Oklahoma? Hes getting less hype than Tytus Howard. He'd be a bargain in the 3rd.

 

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Drue Tranquil, Alex Bars, Miles Boykin, Dexter Williams, Alize Mack - I feel like people are sleeping on ND

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8 hours ago, Turk71 said:

I expect these guys to go in rounds 4 through 7 and outperform their draft position.

RB Justice Hill  OT William Sweet  WR Anthony Johnson   QB Brett Rypien  

WR Gary Jennings Jr  WR Dillon Mitchell

EDGE Jaylon Ferguson  G Ben Powers 

CB Iman Marshall  TE Caleb Wilson 

 DI Armon Watts  CB Tim Harris

LB Ben Burr-Kirvin EDGE Oshane Ximines

RB David Montgomery TE Josh Oliver

OT Yodney Cajuste RB Bryce Love

  

Someone is going to get a steal here. Hopefully it's us

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JJ Arcega Whiteside

Dillon Mitchell

Chase Winovich

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson

David Montgomery

Justice Hill

Devin Bush (I think he will be better than Devin White)

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2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

JJ Arcega Whiteside

Dillon Mitchell

Chase Winovich

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson

David Montgomery

Justice Hill

Devin Bush (I think he will be better than Devin White)

good list. I forgot to list Winovich, the guy is incredibly athletic for his size and goes all out.

33 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said:

Someone is going to get a steal here. Hopefully it's us

wonder if he makes it to the 4th, if so the Bills should snag him. He was incredible the year before last when he was healthy, would be psyched if they got him.

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1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Red Star means he outperformed his draft slot.  Regardless of who knew.

 

Not sure if you realize this.

He was a first round prospect with medical red flags. How does one outperform a first round stock?

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2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Jaylon Ferguson - DE (Probably a second rounder, I think he might wind up the best edge player in the draft down the line)

 

 

I have a 1st on him and if the Bills were to trade back into the late teens I would be 100% on board with selecting Jaylon Ferguson.

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3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Jazz Ferguson 

 

I think Jazz Ferguson is likely to get overlooked because there have been a fair amount of big, useless, stiff WR's in the past decade but he's getting short changed if so,  he's a guy who would have gotten 3rd round looks not that long ago.

 

I gotta' throw Jalen Hurd into the mix.    Seen him anywhere from top 100 to UDFA with draftniks so generally not as much of a sleeper as Ferguson.

 

He's more likely to end up kicking around like Braxton Miller(another conversion type) than he is to become a star but he's one of many talented athletes available at WR and a guy who can run the ball as a big back from the backfield so he is a potential space saver for an NFL roster.    I like his RAC ability..........he can catch a ball with his back to the defense and shed a block then turn into a RB.    He's got some matchup potential as a legit run threat that can start in the backfield then go into the slot and run a zone beating TE route and turn it into a 15-20 yard gain with RAC.

 

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1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

He's "retired."

 

Well preserved...

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12 hours ago, mrags said:

LJ Scott RB  --  when you're slow and unathletic by Big 12 standards, I don't think you stand a chance. 

Jacai Polite DE -- yikes... 5 dollar player with a .10 cent brain --- waaaaay too many red flags on this kid and didn't test out half as athletic as many thought he would.  No thank you. 

Jaques Patrick RB -- possibly for the CFL, I could get on board with this one...

And this. 

 

Best receiving talent in the draft.  -- I like Harry, but think he has even more agility/separation questions than DK...

 

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3 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

khalil hodge ?  little bit of mack in him?

Huge fan for 3 years. Seen every snap of his career

 

i was super high on him entering the year. Thought if he displayed speed in the 40 he had TE tools to be a 3 down linebacker 

 

But he is pretty slow.. probably too slow for the NFL unfortunately 

 

Hodge is a pure off off ball linebacker while Mack could do anything but was an elite edge rusher

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10 hours ago, JM57 said:

He was a first round prospect with medical red flags. How does one outperform a first round stock?

If he has medical Red Flags then he doesnt have 1st round stock.  Just like in the real stock market.

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6 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

If he has medical Red Flags then he doesnt have 1st round stock.  Just like in the real stock market.

Okay so Montez Sweat is a consensus top 15-20 prospect with a medical red flag due to the heart condition that came up at the combine. But can't have first round stock?

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Posted (edited)

To all you bickering Bills...

 

A player picked in the first round CAN be considered a Red Star by a Scout 

 

A player picked at 27 Of the first round can outperform his draft stock and perform at the level of a top 5 pick 

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25 minutes ago, JM57 said:

Okay so Montez Sweat is a consensus top 15-20 prospect with a medical red flag due to the heart condition that came up at the combine. But can't have first round stock?

Sweat wont fall out of the first round.  And most of what I have seen is Gronk projected to the 2nd or 3rd.  He was probably the best player drafted in 2010.  Which means he should have been drafted #1 overall.

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