D521646 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I ask because I've been watching her now for a good 3 years, and NOTHING she predicts, says, or even comments on is accurate. 1st off, anyone who plays fantasy stay the hell away from any "analytics" advise Frelund gives you, and that's both season fantasy and especially daily fantasy football. She's total garbage, and her mocks exercises are not even worth the frequency bandwidth of hot air. Just recently she gives a mock for this years first round of not where she thinks players will go, but which players will have an immediate impact, taking into account what she believes those teams records will be for 2019. Um.. what? Why even bother, it's pointless, and zero football knowledge can be gleaned from any of that nonsense, and to watch the guys criticize her without actually criticizing her is laughable, makes me want to puke. Brooks just literally said that he agreed with Frelund that Haskins could be picked by the Pats at 32 and that (get this) Haskins is Tom Brady 2.0.... Yes he literally just said that! My point, if not made abundantly clear, is, why is this women on TV talking about football like she's some sage of wisdom every week? Has anyone ever heard her say anything intelligent when it comes to football fantasy or predictive analytics? Anything? Tim- 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Pretty sure they'd be roasted in this Me Too era if they dismissed her findings. I'm not sold on anything she says, but at least it's a little different than everybody else who simply bring an opinion like you or I. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 Well, that's the point of this topic. I'm asking if anyone has ever heard her speak about football and said, "Oh yeah, that makes sense".. Anyone? Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, D521646 said: I ask because I've been watching her now for a good 3 years, and NOTHING she predicts, says, or even comments on is accurate. 1st off, anyone who plays fantasy stay the hell away from any "analytics" advise Frelund gives you, and that's both season fantasy and especially daily fantasy football. She's total garbage, and her mocks exercises are not even worth the frequency bandwidth of hot air. Just recently she gives a mock for this years first round of not where she thinks players will go, but which players will have an immediate impact, taking into account what she believes those teams records will be for 2019. Um.. what? Why even bother, it's pointless, and zero football knowledge can be gleaned from any of that nonsense, and to watch the guys criticize her without actually criticizing her is laughable, makes me want to puke. Brooks just literally said that he agreed with Frelund that Haskins could be picked by the Pats at 32 and that (get this) Haskins is Tom Brady 2.0.... Yes he literally just said that! My point, if not made abundantly clear, is, why is this women on TV talking about football like she's some sage of wisdom every week? Has anyone ever heard her say anything intelligent when it comes to football fantasy or predictive analytics? Anything? Tim- Uh, if she's all that bad why have you been watching her for a good 3 years? 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I very much dislike her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Uh, if she's all that bad why have you been watching her for a good 3 years? Um, because I watch the NFLN, what kind of question is that? Tim- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Because she is a female.. in this PC world. , this what you get.. cred be damned.. must be :"fair" . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 She's moderately hot? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: She's moderately hot? As in tepid? That's a no for me. I, too, find her brand of "analytics" to be a bit lacking. I randomly happened to catch her first round mock referenced above and my immediate reaction was a combination of "huh?" and "who cares?" It was one of the most pointless exercises I've seen, and that's coming from a guy who thinks ALL mock drafts are pointless. Hers took the cake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, eball said: As in tepid? That's a no for me. I, too, find her brand of "analytics" to be a bit lacking. I randomly happened to catch her first round mock referenced above and my immediate reaction was a combination of "huh?" and "who cares?" It was one of the most pointless exercises I've seen, and that's coming from a guy who thinks ALL mock drafts are pointless. Hers took the cake. Moderately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, D521646 said: I ask because I've been watching her now for a good 3 years, and NOTHING she predicts, says, or even comments on is accurate. 1st off, anyone who plays fantasy stay the hell away from any "analytics" advise Frelund gives you, and that's both season fantasy and especially daily fantasy football. She's total garbage, and her mocks exercises are not even worth the frequency bandwidth of hot air. Just recently she gives a mock for this years first round of not where she thinks players will go, but which players will have an immediate impact, taking into account what she believes those teams records will be for 2019. Um.. what? Why even bother, it's pointless, and zero football knowledge can be gleaned from any of that nonsense, and to watch the guys criticize her without actually criticizing her is laughable, makes me want to puke. Brooks just literally said that he agreed with Frelund that Haskins could be picked by the Pats at 32 and that (get this) Haskins is Tom Brady 2.0.... Yes he literally just said that! My point, if not made abundantly clear, is, why is this women on TV talking about football like she's some sage of wisdom every week? Has anyone ever heard her say anything intelligent when it comes to football fantasy or predictive analytics? Anything? Tim- I havent ... (never watch) but the folks at Northwestern that granted her a masters in predictive analytics must have seen something they liked 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Uh, if she's all that bad why have you been watching her for a good 3 years? 33 minutes ago, D521646 said: Um, because I watch the NFLN, what kind of question is that? Tim- Um, if you don't like her, flip from NFL Network to something else when she's on. It's an easy concept. Why torture yourself for multiple years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 It's very gimmicky when they go to her for analytic opinion on something. I suppose it's their attempt to look at the NFL from that angle and she's assigned to the spreadsheets. It's nothing against her personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Ok so this thread is about one person being sick of someone who he claims is always wrong yet continues to host a show. Add in that its a woman who never played football and that puts it in a whole new dimension. Like any other journalist today, she does not have to correct, she just has to bring data and an opinion to capture an audience and make the network and sponsors happy. She must be doing that. In todays world of "PC" consciousness, and Me-Too, it is easy for people to get frustrated. I think if we all just stopped being offended this kind of stuff will blow over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Uh, if she's all that bad why have you been watching her for a good 3 years? Hmmm, yeah, like the little boy who punches the girl he really likes!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Never NEVER Give-up said: Hmmm, yeah, like the little boy who punches the girl he really likes!! hence this dedication thread hah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsmystic Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 She's as qualified as any analytics dude to talk football. She definitely has some predictions correct. She also happens to be fantastic looking which helps the mostly male audience at NFLN. I like here and I like Warren Sharpe- they bring some new information to the table, unlike some of those dopey ex players they trot out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 They’re called boobs, Tim. Actually, besides being very easy on the eyes, she’s quite intelligent. Bachelors in biology from Boston College, Masters in predictive analysis from Northwestern, also an MBA from Northwestern. Owns a fitness center, worked as a model and fitness trainer, started her broadcasting career with ESPN back in 2012. I enjoy watching her. Her remarks are more insightful than many others, both male and female. . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 It's hilarious and definitely appears that most of it is just guesswork. For example, in the article about her first-round "impact" mock, it made it sound like she went through thousands of hours of work, but then at the end it admitted that a lot of it is subjective. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Moderately. That is absolutely, positively, the best possible photograph she could ever hope for. That is the “I want to stop by Glamour Shots while we’re at the mall” photograph. It brings to mind the phrase, “she looks good in a certain light. Of course, you can’t always count on that light.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: It's hilarious and definitely appears that most of it is just guesswork. For example, in the article about her first-round "impact" mock, it made it sound like she went through thousands of hours of work, but then at the end it admitted that a lot of it is subjective. lol Why would her mock draft be taken any less seriouly than the 12 dozen (and growing daily) other mock drafts that continue to appear on this board? Just curious. . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Maybe it is because she would never throw out a blanket statement like "NOTHING she predicts, says, or even comments on is accurate" without proving it with data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, eball said: That is absolutely, positively, the best possible photograph she could ever hope for. That is the “I want to stop by Glamour Shots while we’re at the mall” photograph. It brings to mind the phrase, “she looks good in a certain light. Of course, you can’t always count on that light.” Really, eball? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I legit don’t even know who this person is. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I think her game score predictions during the season are generally pretty good. There is plenty of good data that the predictive analytics model for scorelines is based on. The rest of what she does..... well it seems based on very flimsy data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Because she's got a b*chin hot body that men want to do naughty things to. yeah she's kinda a butterface. but that body as far as her analysis and analytics go, meh. on the occasion that i finish one of her analytics articles i'm usually struck by her narcissism. The number of first person references she makes is almost on par with the 44th President Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, The Senator said: Really, eball? Really? Maybe he is more of a Beth Mowins type of guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Perhaps instead of skewering her, this might be what to expect from "analytics". Statistics are based on solid samples,. I'm not sure that sports analytics are based on that. For example: height/weight/speed and of prospects is a (often reviled) form of analytics. That being, this ht, wt, speed, arm length, bench press number etc, GENERALLY predicts success in the NFL. Of course there are exceptions to any general statistic. Yet when Mike Schoop touts statistics about 4th down conversion rates, he fails to acknowledge differences in team's offense/defense capabilities and, more importantly, ignores that the statistics are biased as only the teams (and scenarios) that coaches feel like they could have success are represented in the success rat s that they cite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Moderately. She'd stand out at a bar in East Aurora, but she's definitely not special. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Can’t stand her. She’ll be gone in a year or 2. Fox will offer her millions to never be seen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 There’s 2 things about her, similar in nature, I admire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Maybe he is more of a Beth Mowins type of guy. Yes, well Beth also looks “hot” in perfect lighting conditions, like total darkness. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, D521646 said: I ask because I've been watching her now for a good 3 years, and NOTHING she predicts, says, or even comments on is accurate. 1st off, anyone who plays fantasy stay the hell away from any "analytics" advise Frelund gives you, and that's both season fantasy and especially daily fantasy football. She's total garbage, and her mocks exercises are not even worth the frequency bandwidth of hot air. Just recently she gives a mock for this years first round of not where she thinks players will go, but which players will have an immediate impact, taking into account what she believes those teams records will be for 2019. Um.. what? Why even bother, it's pointless, and zero football knowledge can be gleaned from any of that nonsense, and to watch the guys criticize her without actually criticizing her is laughable, makes me want to puke. Brooks just literally said that he agreed with Frelund that Haskins could be picked by the Pats at 32 and that (get this) Haskins is Tom Brady 2.0.... Yes he literally just said that! My point, if not made abundantly clear, is, why is this women on TV talking about football like she's some sage of wisdom every week? Has anyone ever heard her say anything intelligent when it comes to football fantasy or predictive analytics? Anything? Tim- I like to look at her. But you’re right, she’s quite literally never been correct. I’m not entirely sure what she actually does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I don't think her game score predictions are really any better or worse than many of the other so-called experts. The use of math models rely on past performances to predict the future. The weakness of this approach exists because coaches like Bellicheat vary their game plans significantly from week to week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Maybe he is more of a Beth Mowins type of guy. That’s actually pretty funny. Touché. But seriously, she’s not my type and I don’t find her particularly attractive. To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, The Senator said: Why would her mock draft be taken any less seriouly than the 12 dozen (and growing daily) other mock drafts that continue to appear on this board? Just curious. . Because she claims to have extremely complicated models, but then she gets to change whatever she wants to make it as interesting as possible and then throw in a subjectivity disclaimer. ? It's very convenient. Edited April 8, 2019 by The Bills Blog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Because she claims to have extremely complicated models, but then she gets to change whatever she wants to make it as interesting as possible and then throw in a subjectivity disclaimer. ? It's very convenient. Should any mock draft be taken seriously? Aren’t they all nothing but exercises in fun and guesswork, especially the ones that anticipate all sorts of trades based on nothing, and not even knowing which players will be on or off the board? . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Moderately. If that's moderate, then all my life I must not have had any idea what hot looks like! That's what happens when you get old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, D521646 said: I ask because I've been watching her now for a good 3 years, and NOTHING she predicts, says, or even comments on is accurate. 1st off, anyone who plays fantasy stay the hell away from any "analytics" advise Frelund gives you, and that's both season fantasy and especially daily fantasy football. She's total garbage, and her mocks exercises are not even worth the frequency bandwidth of hot air. Just recently she gives a mock for this years first round of not where she thinks players will go, but which players will have an immediate impact, taking into account what she believes those teams records will be for 2019. Um.. what? Why even bother, it's pointless, and zero football knowledge can be gleaned from any of that nonsense, and to watch the guys criticize her without actually criticizing her is laughable, makes me want to puke. Brooks just literally said that he agreed with Frelund that Haskins could be picked by the Pats at 32 and that (get this) Haskins is Tom Brady 2.0.... Yes he literally just said that! My point, if not made abundantly clear, is, why is this women on TV talking about football like she's some sage of wisdom every week? Has anyone ever heard her say anything intelligent when it comes to football fantasy or predictive analytics? Anything? Tim- Yeah - I find her cute in her way, but she is consistently both not profound and generally awful in her projections. There has to be someone with better math/analytics skills available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: If that's moderate, then all my life I must not have had any idea what hot looks like! That's what happens when you get old! As eball said that's her ceiling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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