Brian Burns Names Bills as Showing Interest

[Thurman#1]

Good article on Burns. Made me interested. He's explosive, smart and serious. Here's an excerpt, including the bit about the Bills in red:

 

"Burns admits he didn’t truly get into the mental aspect of football until his sophomore year of high school, but he’s leaned heavily on his brother Stanley McClover, a former Auburn defensive end standout and 2006 draft pick, as well as the aforementioned Walker and Lawing. His knowledge has also trickled down to the likes of former four-star prospect and FSU rising sophomore defensive end Xavier Peters, who recently credited Burns with helping him transition from Year 1 to Year 2 in Tallahassee.

 

“ 'I’d rather learn the knowledge now and be able to apply it in my rookie season than waiting three or four years and saying I wish I knew this as a rookie,' says Burns, who lists the Panthers, Colts, Titans, Cardinals and Bills as the teams showing him the most pre-draft attention. 'When I was a freshman in college I wish I would have taken that more seriously as far as picking other guys’ brains and the legends who came around. But now I don’t want to make that mistake.'

 

"As soon as Florida State’s disappointing 5–7 season ended without a bowl appearance for the first time in 36 seasons, Burns went to work on his game’s biggest weakness—his mass. From the second week of December up until the combine, Burns scarfed down 4,000 calories a day while training at EXOS in Arizona.

 

To go from 230 pounds to his current 253-pound weight, Burns would eat eggs, toast and sausage for breakfast. After a workout, he would then have his first protein shake. For lunch it was chicken or steak with brown rice, potatoes and kale, followed by another workout and another shake. He’d head back home and have the dinner that was prepared for him by EXOS. Then he’d maybe bake chicken or cook some pasta (his brother taught him to cook those). And right before bed he’d have a peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich to sit on his stomach all night. In all, it added up to six meals a day for two months for 20-plus pounds of added weight."

 

EDIT:  Sorry, I left out the link:

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/04/brian-burns-nfl-draft-2019-florida-state

 

And this isn't the whole article. There's much more at the link.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Thurman#1

[Just Joshin']

Not in first round, yes if available in the second.  Can he excel in the NFL at a higher weight?  If just a speed guy, he will get pushed around IMO.

[BuffaloRebound]

Beane and co. seem to be everywhere and involved in everything.  If nothing else, these guys are the hardest working front office in football.  

[Logic]

15 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Beane and co. seem to be everywhere and involved in everything.  If nothing else, these guys are the hardest working front office in football.  

Yep. Everything I read about Brandon Beane indicates that he is a relentlessly hard worker. He always seems to be on the road. Is this common? I legitimately don't know. He seems to be on the road as much as his scouts. Is this how all GMs operate?

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

Yep. Everything I read about Brandon Beane indicates that he is a relentlessly hard worker. He always seems to be on the road. Is this common? I legitimately don't know. He seems to be on the road as much as his scouts. Is this how all GMs operate?

 

Well definitely not Whaley. I seem to remember John Butler being on the road scouting a lot back in the day. I think he was our last good GM.

[DallasMac]

Makes me nervous when guys make these body transformations for the combine.  Not saying from a steroid or hgh standpoint but whether the body type is something they can maintain long term.  Hate to say his name but Maybin is an example.

[HappyDays]

Joe Marino of the locked on Bills podcast thinks he is the best pass rusher in the draft. But I would be surprised if he goes top 10. Maybe if we trade down I could see us taking him.

[JimKellyTryouts]

16 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

 

Well definitely not Whaley. I seem to remember John Butler being on the road scouting a lot back in the day. I think he was our last good GM.

 

Whaley regularly mentioned how scouting on the road was his true love; sure the results weren't there since he was better suited for a personnel role than GM, but I don't think any of us ever disliked how much he tried to work and get things right.

[BringBackFlutie]

13 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said:

 

Whaley regularly mentioned how scouting on the road was his true love; sure the results weren't there since he was better suited for a personnel role than GM, but I don't think any of us ever disliked how much he tried to work and get things right.

Right?  It's just crazy to me how a negative opinion of someone can shape an entire false narrative of various details about that person.  I'm so happy with Beane, and he seems like the hardest working GM we've had,  but Whaley was on the road scouting, probably, the MOST out of our GMs.  

Edited April 5, 2019 by BringBackFlutie

[TigerJ]

55 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

Not in first round, yes if available in the second.  Can he excel in the NFL at a higher weight?  If just a speed guy, he will get pushed around IMO.

I doubt he lasts past the middle of the first round.

[DallasMac]

4 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

I doubt he lasts past the middle of the first round.

Wouldn't bet on it but I feel like he will be an early second rounder.  

[NewEra]

He’s a first rd pick 100%.  He’s could be the best edge rusher in the draft.  While he may not have the bulk to play 4-3 DE, he’s a perfect fit as 3-4 OLB. He’s going to be very good imo.  Just don’t think he’s going to be a Bill, but I’ve seen crazier things.  Creative playcalling could make him a star

[Buffalo Barbarian]

 

Welp hes not coming.

 

 

 

Edited April 5, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Joe Marino of the locked on Bills podcast thinks he is the best pass rusher in the draft. But I would be surprised if he goes top 10. Maybe if we trade down I could see us taking him.

 

 

As he says in the article, there's no really good grasp on the general area where he's going to go. He's been consistently mocked everywhere from #6 to #31.

 

EDIT: Sorry, I left out the link in the OP. I put it there and here it is again:

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/04/brian-burns-nfl-draft-2019-florida-state

 

There's a lot more there in the article.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Thurman#1

[akcash]

Im telling ya I like Gary at 9.

Staple

[Thurman#1]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Welp hes not coming.

 

 

 

 

 

Right. Either that or he is.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

He’s a first rd pick 100%.  He’s could be the best edge rusher in the draft.  While he may not have the bulk to play 4-3 DE, he’s a perfect fit as 3-4 OLB. He’s going to be very good imo.  Just don’t think he’s going to be a Bill, but I’ve seen crazier things.  Creative playcalling could make him a star

I'd really like to see the Bills break their mold and go with the stud pass rusher. Hughes isn't the prototypical size they look for at DE but they were forced into it and it's worked out great. The front 4 has to get home. I'm not expecting it either but If they draft Burns I'll be ecstatic.

[Victory Formation]

Jeesh. All that protein. Guy probably spends 15 minutes on the toilet every morning just to squeeze out a chicken nugget sized turd.

[PetermansRedemption]

With a trade down to the 15-25 range I wouldn’t mind it. 

[Juice_32]

7 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

Not in first round, yes if available in the second.  Can he excel in the NFL at a higher weight?  If just a speed guy, he will get pushed around IMO.

 

I’ll admit that I’ve got PTSD from Maybin, but I feel the same way. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

5 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

I’ll admit that I’ve got PTSD from Maybin, but I feel the same way. 

#MeToo

[bigdogtim]

Beane on the road seems much more successful than Buddy Nix taking a nap.

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Too small for McDermott's system but one of my favorite guys in the Draft.

[YoloinOhio]

He’s one of their 30 pre-draft visitors 

One of the 3 best pass rushers in the draft 

27 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Too small for McDermott's system but one of my favorite guys in the Draft.

Similar size to Hughes, no?

[FeelingOnYouboty]

21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He’s one of their 30 pre-draft visitors 

One of the 3 best pass rushers in the draft 

Similar size to Hughes, no?

 

Hughes was inherited. Not necessarily a Beane/McDermott guy and I'm not sold that they'll re-sign him.

[MTLBills]

10 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Joe Marino of the locked on Bills podcast thinks he is the best pass rusher in the draft. But I would be surprised if he goes top 10. Maybe if we trade down I could see us taking him.

 

I believe he also said that he is ideal as 3-4 OLB and not somebody he thinks the Bills would target, given their propensity for more "prototype" bodies.

[SWATeam]

I'm a big Burns fan.  Natural pass rusher with ELITE bend.  I'm not concerned about his weight, I don't see him getting pushed around on tape.  Plays with his hand in the dirt, unlike some of the other rush guys.

 

I think he's right up there with Allen and Bosa.  His tape is way better than Sweat, IMO.  I'd be happy with Burns at 9.

 

 

[IgotBILLStopay]

Reach at #9. Steal at #40.

[Logic]

https://www.cover1.net/2019-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-brian-burns/

 

The 2019 NFL Draft is less than one month away, and the Buffalo Bills could go in a variety of directions with their No. 9 overall pick. The team did a great job plugging holes throughout the roster at key positions during free agency, which gives Buffalo the flexibility to select the best available player with each of their 10 draft picks. Most mock drafts following the Bills’ active approach to free agency have the team selecting players like Alabama’s offensive tackle, Jonah Williams, Houston defensive tackle Ed Oliver, and Ole Miss wide receiver D.K. Metcalf, among others. But one player that hasn’t been linked to Buffalo very often, and one who probably should be, is Florida State’s dynamic edge rusher, Brian Burns.

Brian Burns is a long, athletic pass rusher who stands 6-foot-5 and 249-pounds. He improved in each of his three seasons with the Seminoles, finishing his career with 123 tackles, 38.5 tackles for loss, 23 sacks, seven forced fumbles, and seven pass breakups in 33 games.

The former five-star recruit out of Fort Lauderdale, Florida’s American Heritage High School was named All-ACC after racking up 52 tackles, 15.5 tackles for loss, 10 sacks, three forced fumbles, and three pass breakups in 13 games during his junior season, his last at Florida State.

 

[RyanC883]

I think LJ Collier (DE) TCU, and Burns both have the potential to be the best Edge rushers from this draft.  Bucky Brooks of NFL Network stated he believes in a few years Collier will be the best of the bunch. 

 

That said, at #9, you take a "can't-miss" guy.  Well, someone who is projected as can't miss.  If Oliver is there, you take him.  If Williams is there, same.  Or, if a projected can't-miss is gone, trade down, get Burns, and Collier since you now have extra picks. 

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

11 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said:

Right?  It's just crazy to me how a negative opinion of someone can shape an entire false narrative of various details about that person.  I'm so happy with Beane, and he seems like the hardest working GM we've had,  but Whaley was on the road scouting, probably, the MOST out of our GMs.  

 

The OP mentioned that Beaner always seems to be on the road, it just didn't seem that way to me with Whaley. I'm sure he did, but look at the drafts he conducted. Not one star player in 4 years. Outside of Woods you can argue he never even hit a top 20 positional player. And most of his picks aren't even in the league. How many got second contracts. Thats horrible compared to Beaner's drafts. If this is what relentless on the road gets you, then he should have stayed home.

 

2016	1	Shaq Lawson	19	DE	2018	0	0	1	9	35													10.0	Clemson
2016	2	Reggie Ragland	41	ILB	2018	0	0	1	11	28												1	0.5	Alabama
2016	3	Adolphus Washington	80	DT	2018	0	0	1	9	35													4.5	Ohio St.
2016	4	Cardale Jones	139	QB	2016	0	0	0	0	1	6	11	96	0	1	1	-1	0						Ohio St.
2016	5	Jonathan Williams	156	RB	2018	0	0	0	1	14	0	1	0	0	0	30	94	1	2	1	0			Arkansas
2016	6	Kolby Listenbee	192	WR		0	0	0																TCU
2016	6	Kevon Seymour	218	CB	2017	0	0	0	3	31														USC
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2015	2	Ronald Darby	50	CB	2018	0	0	3	16	46												6		Florida St.
2015	3	John Miller	81	G	2018	0	0	3	19	47														Louisville
2015	5	Karlos Williams	155	RB	2015	0	0	0	4	11						93	517	7	11	96	2			Florida St.
2015	6	Tony Steward	188	OLB	2015	0	0	0	1	7														Clemson
2015	6	Nick O'Leary	194	TE	2018	0	0	0	5	47									40	559	3			Florida St.
2015	7	Dezmin Lewis	234	WR	2016	0	0	0	0	2									0	0	0			Central Arkansas
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2014	1	Sammy Watkins	4	WR	2018	0	0	5	30	62						8	61	0	232	3571	28			Clemson
2014	2	Cyrus Kouandjio	44	T	2018	0	0	0	7	30														Alabama
2014	3	Preston Brown	73	LB	2018	0	0	4	31	71												5	1.0	Louisville
2014	4	Ross Cockrell	109	DB	2017	0	0	1	14	54												5		Duke
2014	5	Cyril Richardson	153	G	2014	0	0	0	2	12														Baylor
2014	7	Randell Johnson	221	LB	2016	0	0	0	2	16														Florida Atlantic
2014	7	Seantrel Henderson	237	OL	2018	0	0	2	14	35														Miami (FL)
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2013	1	EJ Manuel	16	QB	2017	0	0	1	10	30	343	590	3767	20	16	96	339	4						Florida St.
2013	2	Robert Woods	41	WR	2018	0	0	6	38	85						25	191	1	345	4451	23			USC
2013	2	Kiko Alonso	46	LB	2018	0	0	4	30	73												10	3.0	Oregon
2013	3	Marquise Goodwin	78	WR	2018	0	0	3	16	66						14	74	0	128	2137	12			Texas
2013	4	Duke Williams	105	DB	2016	0	0	0	8	58												1	1.0	Nevada
2013	5	Jonathan Meeks	143	DB	2016	0	0	0	2	38														Clemson
2013	6	Dustin Hopkins	177	K	2018	0	0	4	11	55														Florida St.
2013	7	Chris Gragg	222	TE	2015	0	0	0	1	32									24	251	2			Arkansas

 

[BringBackFlutie]

12 minutes ago, BillsRdue said:

 

The OP mentioned that Beaner always seems to be on the road, it just didn't seem that way to me with Whaley. I'm sure he did, but look at the drafts he conducted. Not one star player in 4 years. Outside of Woods you can argue he never even hit a top 20 positional player. And most of his picks aren't even in the league. How many got second contracts. Thats horrible compared to Beaner's drafts. If this is what relentless on the road gets you, then he should have stayed home.

 

2016	1	Shaq Lawson	19	DE	2018	0	0	1	9	35													10.0	Clemson
2016	2	Reggie Ragland	41	ILB	2018	0	0	1	11	28												1	0.5	Alabama
2016	3	Adolphus Washington	80	DT	2018	0	0	1	9	35													4.5	Ohio St.
2016	4	Cardale Jones	139	QB	2016	0	0	0	0	1	6	11	96	0	1	1	-1	0						Ohio St.
2016	5	Jonathan Williams	156	RB	2018	0	0	0	1	14	0	1	0	0	0	30	94	1	2	1	0			Arkansas
2016	6	Kolby Listenbee	192	WR		0	0	0																TCU
2016	6	Kevon Seymour	218	CB	2017	0	0	0	3	31														USC
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2015	2	Ronald Darby	50	CB	2018	0	0	3	16	46												6		Florida St.
2015	3	John Miller	81	G	2018	0	0	3	19	47														Louisville
2015	5	Karlos Williams	155	RB	2015	0	0	0	4	11						93	517	7	11	96	2			Florida St.
2015	6	Tony Steward	188	OLB	2015	0	0	0	1	7														Clemson
2015	6	Nick O'Leary	194	TE	2018	0	0	0	5	47									40	559	3			Florida St.
2015	7	Dezmin Lewis	234	WR	2016	0	0	0	0	2									0	0	0			Central Arkansas
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2014	1	Sammy Watkins	4	WR	2018	0	0	5	30	62						8	61	0	232	3571	28			Clemson
2014	2	Cyrus Kouandjio	44	T	2018	0	0	0	7	30														Alabama
2014	3	Preston Brown	73	LB	2018	0	0	4	31	71												5	1.0	Louisville
2014	4	Ross Cockrell	109	DB	2017	0	0	1	14	54												5		Duke
2014	5	Cyril Richardson	153	G	2014	0	0	0	2	12														Baylor
2014	7	Randell Johnson	221	LB	2016	0	0	0	2	16														Florida Atlantic
2014	7	Seantrel Henderson	237	OL	2018	0	0	2	14	35														Miami (FL)
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2013	1	EJ Manuel	16	QB	2017	0	0	1	10	30	343	590	3767	20	16	96	339	4						Florida St.
2013	2	Robert Woods	41	WR	2018	0	0	6	38	85						25	191	1	345	4451	23			USC
2013	2	Kiko Alonso	46	LB	2018	0	0	4	30	73												10	3.0	Oregon
2013	3	Marquise Goodwin	78	WR	2018	0	0	3	16	66						14	74	0	128	2137	12			Texas
2013	4	Duke Williams	105	DB	2016	0	0	0	8	58												1	1.0	Nevada
2013	5	Jonathan Meeks	143	DB	2016	0	0	0	2	38														Clemson
2013	6	Dustin Hopkins	177	K	2018	0	0	4	11	55														Florida St.
2013	7	Chris Gragg	222	TE	2015	0	0	0	1	32									24	251	2			Arkansas

 

Right.  Case in point.

[N.Y. Orangeman]

I love Burns.  I like him more than Sweat or Gary.   I'd be thrilled if we took him at 9.  

Edited April 5, 2019 by N.Y. Orangeman

[Formerly Allan in MD]

If he can play like Hughes, why not.  But he likely won't last into the second round.

[mrags]

Trade back. Get some extra picks to move back up for more talent if needed. Take Wilkins, Burns, Polite in the mid to late first. 

[Augie]

17 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Beane and co. seem to be everywhere and involved in everything.  If nothing else, these guys are the hardest working front office in football.  

 

See how much more you can do when you don’t have to work around Buddy’s nap time? 

 

?

[Bray Wyatt]

4 hours ago, BillsRdue said:

 

The OP mentioned that Beaner always seems to be on the road, it just didn't seem that way to me with Whaley. I'm sure he did, but look at the drafts he conducted. Not one star player in 4 years. Outside of Woods you can argue he never even hit a top 20 positional player. And most of his picks aren't even in the league. How many got second contracts. Thats horrible compared to Beaner's drafts. If this is what relentless on the road gets you, then he should have stayed home.

 

2016	1	Shaq Lawson	19	DE	2018	0	0	1	9	35													10.0	Clemson
2016	2	Reggie Ragland	41	ILB	2018	0	0	1	11	28												1	0.5	Alabama
2016	3	Adolphus Washington	80	DT	2018	0	0	1	9	35													4.5	Ohio St.
2016	4	Cardale Jones	139	QB	2016	0	0	0	0	1	6	11	96	0	1	1	-1	0						Ohio St.
2016	5	Jonathan Williams	156	RB	2018	0	0	0	1	14	0	1	0	0	0	30	94	1	2	1	0			Arkansas
2016	6	Kolby Listenbee	192	WR		0	0	0																TCU
2016	6	Kevon Seymour	218	CB	2017	0	0	0	3	31														USC
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2015	2	Ronald Darby	50	CB	2018	0	0	3	16	46												6		Florida St.
2015	3	John Miller	81	G	2018	0	0	3	19	47														Louisville
2015	5	Karlos Williams	155	RB	2015	0	0	0	4	11						93	517	7	11	96	2			Florida St.
2015	6	Tony Steward	188	OLB	2015	0	0	0	1	7														Clemson
2015	6	Nick O'Leary	194	TE	2018	0	0	0	5	47									40	559	3			Florida St.
2015	7	Dezmin Lewis	234	WR	2016	0	0	0	0	2									0	0	0			Central Arkansas
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2014	1	Sammy Watkins	4	WR	2018	0	0	5	30	62						8	61	0	232	3571	28			Clemson
2014	2	Cyrus Kouandjio	44	T	2018	0	0	0	7	30														Alabama
2014	3	Preston Brown	73	LB	2018	0	0	4	31	71												5	1.0	Louisville
2014	4	Ross Cockrell	109	DB	2017	0	0	1	14	54												5		Duke
2014	5	Cyril Richardson	153	G	2014	0	0	0	2	12														Baylor
2014	7	Randell Johnson	221	LB	2016	0	0	0	2	16														Florida Atlantic
2014	7	Seantrel Henderson	237	OL	2018	0	0	2	14	35														Miami (FL)
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	CarAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2013	1	EJ Manuel	16	QB	2017	0	0	1	10	30	343	590	3767	20	16	96	339	4						Florida St.
2013	2	Robert Woods	41	WR	2018	0	0	6	38	85						25	191	1	345	4451	23			USC
2013	2	Kiko Alonso	46	LB	2018	0	0	4	30	73												10	3.0	Oregon
2013	3	Marquise Goodwin	78	WR	2018	0	0	3	16	66						14	74	0	128	2137	12			Texas
2013	4	Duke Williams	105	DB	2016	0	0	0	8	58												1	1.0	Nevada
2013	5	Jonathan Meeks	143	DB	2016	0	0	0	2	38														Clemson
2013	6	Dustin Hopkins	177	K	2018	0	0	4	11	55														Florida St.
2013	7	Chris Gragg	222	TE	2015	0	0	0	1	32									24	251	2			Arkansas

 

 

[Just Joshin']

6 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

Reach at #9. Steal at #40.

As an edge, he will be drafted in the first.  I do not want the Bills to do so at 9 - he is not a top 9 talent.  This is one of the guys where we will not know for a few years.  Dion Jordan was fast and under performed.  He needs to develop more moves and prove he can carry more weight.

[BillsFan17]

The second best pure pass rusher in the draft, but can he be a three down DE?!?!

[BuffaloBill]

Too small