Cripple Creek Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups). However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want. They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy. They will go get their guy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) Please. May be off the table for you, but for nobody else is trading back gone. Might not happen, but you can bet they still think it's an option. Trading up? Yeah, not in the first round. Last year they had two massive holes they needed to fill, particularly at QB but also at the Kuechle spot in McD's defence. This year no massive holes. Not unless someone like Bosa falls to sixth or seventh or something wild like that. Edited March 15, 2019 by Thurman#1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Get up for Quinnen if the Jets pass ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Please. ...EXACTLY......McBeane now has more options and trading down for an extra 2nd is STILL one of them IMO.............. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups). However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want. They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy. They will go get their guy. I've been thinking this even prior to FA. Swap of 1sts, throw in a 2nd, then use our 3rd and a 4th to move back into the 2nd rd, and grap a stud D-line , and WR/OL in the 2nd Edited March 15, 2019 by BuffAlone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 considering the draft is still over a month away.....can't say anything is"off the table" 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I agree that the Bills won’t be actively shopping for a trade down but they’ll certainly have their ears open to offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Beane is in the cat bird's seat right now. He can go whatever way he chooses. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Nothing is off the table. Moreover, Beane seems like he is trying to move that pick. Not straight away, but for a player and then swap 1sts with the other team. that said I prefer they just stay at 9 unless they are getting some elite, proven talent like Clowney, Julio etc. in the swap. I just think they have done a nice job with filling holes in a strategic way in FA with solid vets at starter and depth spots and now need to draft some elite young talent as high as possible . Trading down adds quantity but lessens the chance of that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups). However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want. They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy. They will go get their guy. I disagree - he could trade back and pick up a first next rather than additional picks this year. He could trade back and then trade up. Nothing is off the table, but I do agree it is looking like they do not need all 10 picks to make this roster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 We don’t need anymore 5th-7th Round Picks, but I guarantee you Beane would think about moving back if netted him a later 1st and an extra 2nd/3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Huh? No way. I would bet that unless one of the big five slide to us, we trade down. And Beane is not done making moves. He still has $40 million in cap room and will make some moves before draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Nothing is off the table. Nothing except a trade down. Wouldn't be prudent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I disagree - he could trade back and pick up a first next rather than additional picks this year. He could trade back and then trade up. Nothing is off the table, but I do agree it is looking like they do not need all 10 picks to make this roster. I could definitely see Beane moving around in the draft using some of those later picks - even moving up in the 2nd or 3rd using the multiple 4ths/5ths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I could definitely see Beane moving around in the draft using some of those later picks - even moving up in the 2nd or 3rd using the multiple 4ths/5ths So you've come around this quickly? Trading up is the way to go in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I could definitely see Beane moving around in the draft using some of those later picks - even moving up in the 2nd or 3rd using the multiple 4ths/5ths I was thinking this yesterday myself. As another poster has said the bills only have so many roster spots now. We don't need 10 draft picks. I'd trade our extra 4th and 5th for a 3rd. The first 3 rounds of this draft is really deep with starting talent. We only have 3 of 10 picks in those rounds. I would say day 2 movement is highly likely. Edited March 15, 2019 by Mark92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: So you've come around this quickly? Trading up is the way to go in this draft. Your opinion. Doesn't make it fact. Beane is in a position to do whatever he wants. Someone will want to move up for a QB most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: So you've come around this quickly? Trading up is the way to go in this draft. I’m not sure what you mean by “come around”... I never said I didn’t think they should use picks to trade up. But I’m referring to what i think Beane might do, not what i want him to do. And I’m not talking about trading up in the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m not sure what you mean by “come around”... I never said I didn’t think they should use picks to trade up. But I’m referring to what i think Beane might do, not what i want him to do. And I’m not talking about trading up in the 1st. I'm not sure why you feel the need to waffle. We'll be proven right on draft night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) I like a trade up with SF. I posted this in the other thread: Also, with the way free agency has gone down, I actually could see a trade up. If I'm Beane I am doing everything in my power to trade up for Nick Bosa or Q. Williams. At this point I think Oliver might fall. I am working a trade with San Francisco to go get Bosa. They only have six picks. We have ten, and we aren't going to use all of them. If I can get to 2 to draft Bosa and Williams without giving up my 2020 first round pick, I'm doing it. SF traded their 2020 2nd rounder for Dee Ford. Offer them #9, our 2020 2nd, and maybe a 4th and 5th. Basically they get Dee Ford for dropping from 2 to 9 and get a 4th and 5th. It's a no brainer. They can have Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson too if they want. I'm not normally a trade up guy. But I simply don't see how we fit 10 draft picks on our roster, and I see 2-3 elite players in this draft. With how free agency played out, I would totally work to jump up, specifically for Bosa or Williams. Edited March 15, 2019 by MrEpsYtown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups). However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want. They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy. They will go get their guy. A trade back should be the very first option IMO if some QB desperate team Like MIA, Redskins, Titans (team to watch for QB) absolutely want Haskins you should make that move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 They still want to fill the roster with draft picks, more quality chances at that are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I like a trade up with SF. I posted this in the other thread: Also, with the way free agency has gone down, I actually could see a trade up. If I'm Beane I am doing everything in my power to trade up for Nick Bosa or Q. Williams. At this point I think Oliver might fall. I am working a trade with San Francisco to go get Bosa. They only have six picks. We have ten, and we aren't going to use all of them. If I can get to 2 to draft Bosa and Williams without giving up my 2020 first round pick, I'm doing it. SF traded their 2020 2nd rounder for Dee Ford. Offer them #9, our 2020 2nd, and maybe a 4th and 5th. Basically they get Dee Ford for dropping from 2 to 9 and get a 4th and 5th. It's a no brainer. They can have Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson too if they want. I'm not normally a trade up guy. But I simply don't see how we fit 10 draft picks on our roster, and I see 2-3 elite players in this draft. With how free agency played out, I would totally work to jump up, specifically for Bosa or Williams. It would probably take our 2nd to move up, and we would be ridiculous to do that for a non-QB. Pick 40 is prime high level TE/WR territory. Zero chance I move that pick unless we’re using it to get back into the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I like a trade up with SF. I posted this in the other thread: Also, with the way free agency has gone down, I actually could see a trade up. If I'm Beane I am doing everything in my power to trade up for Nick Bosa or Q. Williams. At this point I think Oliver might fall. I am working a trade with San Francisco to go get Bosa. They only have six picks. We have ten, and we aren't going to use all of them. If I can get to 2 to draft Bosa and Williams without giving up my 2020 first round pick, I'm doing it. SF traded their 2020 2nd rounder for Dee Ford. Offer them #9, our 2020 2nd, and maybe a 4th and 5th. Basically they get Dee Ford for dropping from 2 to 9 and get a 4th and 5th. It's a no brainer. They can have Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson too if they want. I'm not normally a trade up guy. But I simply don't see how we fit 10 draft picks on our roster, and I see 2-3 elite players in this draft. With how free agency played out, I would totally work to jump up, specifically for Bosa or Williams. Imo there are 3 positions where the Bills are focused on drafting high OR making a trade to build their young core. So far they have drafted CB, QB, MLB, LT. They are going to go pass rusher, 3 tech, WR next. From all the rumors I think they do want a #1 WR though I’m far from convinced they will do that at 9 because I just don’t think any of the WRs in this draft are top 10 players overall this year. I think they want an established guy first but could take one in the 2nd if the right one is sitting there. They are also heavy after a pass rusher and 3 tech is a very important part of McD’s Defense. I think at 9 they go BPA on DL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Well i guess every team got exactly what they wanted in free agency and every hole filled superior talent.. Why even have the draft then right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I think a trade down from 9 is still very much in play, but having said that, I think we'll almost certainly trade up later on; there's no way we draft 10 players IMO so they'll either consolidate picks or trade some of them for future picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonboy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I get it - roster is getting full - but don't forget that a trade down can also be done for pick(s) next year. Regardless, there is always room for improvement. You can never have too many picks or too much competition..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I think a trade down from 9 is still very much in play, but having said that, I think we'll almost certainly trade up later on; there's no way we draft 10 players IMO so they'll either consolidate picks or trade some of them for future picks. As shocked as I would be if we trade up from 9, is as equally shocked as I’ll be if we don’t trade up from at least one of our other picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 That's the beauty of what beano has done, all options are on the table. I hear they like Boston college guard lindstrum and don't doubt players on the roster could be traded also 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups). However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want. They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy. They will go get their guy. When you put yourself in a corner like that, you make mistakes. I'm not saying they won't make a mistake, but I doubt they lock themselves into that line of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 49 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups). However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want. They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy. They will go get their guy. Unless you are actually Beane mascarading as a TBD poster, I would suggest that the table is still full- all options, with the exception of trading Josh Allen or Tre Edmunds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Unlike regimes in the past it's not about one splashy move, it's actual roster building with an eye on the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: I'm not sure why you feel the need to waffle. We'll be proven right on draft night. I'm in the same boat as you, Yolo and the majority of guys here....you move up. Especially if it can get done before Draft night. Get up to pick 3 or 4, then trade down to pick 6 or 7 and get some more 2nd and 3rd round picks. It's a net move up with added picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I doubt we will be able to trade down because the QBs will be gone. If there was another offer like the one we got form KC two years ago I believe they would trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Nothing except a trade down. Wouldn't be prudent. When you're in a hole, stop digging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 41 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: So you've come around this quickly? Trading up is the way to go in this draft. Go look at the frequency they traded up in Carolina in the early rounds. Wildly unlikely. Not impossible, but wildly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 The draft is a fluid process and ALL options are on the table. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Go look at the frequency they traded up in Carolina in the early rounds. Wildly unlikely. Not impossible, but wildly unlikely. A friendly wager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...EXACTLY......McBeane now has more options and trading down for an extra 2nd is STILL one of them IMO.............. And maybe that 2nd rounder with another pick gets him back into round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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