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With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups).  

 

However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want.

 

They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy.  They will go get their guy.

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Please.

 

May be off the table for you, but for nobody else is trading back gone. Might not happen, but you can bet they still think it's an option.

 

Trading up? Yeah, not in the first round. Last year they had two massive holes they needed to fill, particularly at QB but also at the Kuechle spot in McD's defence. This year no massive holes. Not unless someone like Bosa falls to sixth or seventh or something wild like that.

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2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

Please.

 

...EXACTLY......McBeane now has more options and trading down for an extra 2nd is STILL one of them IMO..............

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9 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups).  

 

However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want.

 

They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy.  They will go get their guy.

I've been thinking this even prior to FA. Swap of 1sts, throw in a 2nd, then use our 3rd and a 4th to move back into the 2nd rd, and grap a stud D-line , and WR/OL in the 2nd

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considering the draft is still over a month away.....can't say anything is"off the table"

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I agree that the Bills won’t be actively shopping for a trade down but they’ll certainly have their ears open to offers.

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Nothing is off the table. Moreover, Beane seems like he is trying to move that pick. Not straight away, but for a player and then swap 1sts with the other team.

 

that said I prefer they just stay at 9 unless they are getting some elite, proven talent like Clowney, Julio etc. in the swap. I just think they have done a nice job with filling holes in a strategic way in FA with solid vets at starter and depth spots and now need to draft some elite young talent as high as possible . Trading down adds quantity but lessens the chance of that. 

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7 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups).  

 

However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want.

 

They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy.  They will go get their guy.

 

 

I disagree - he could trade back and pick up a first next rather than additional picks this year.

 

He could trade back and then trade up.

 

Nothing is off the table, but I do agree it is looking like they do not need all 10 picks to make this roster.

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We don’t need anymore 5th-7th Round Picks, but I guarantee you Beane would think about moving back if netted him a later 1st and an extra 2nd/3rd. 

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Huh?  No way.  I would bet that unless one of the big five slide to us, we trade down.  And Beane is not done making moves.  He still has $40 million in cap room and will make some moves before draft

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4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Nothing is off the table.

Nothing except a trade down.  Wouldn't be prudent.

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2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

 

I disagree - he could trade back and pick up a first next rather than additional picks this year.

 

He could trade back and then trade up.

 

Nothing is off the table, but I do agree it is looking like they do not need all 10 picks to make this roster.

I could definitely see Beane moving around in the draft using some of those later picks - even moving up in the 2nd or 3rd using the multiple 4ths/5ths

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4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I could definitely see Beane moving around in the draft using some of those later picks - even moving up in the 2nd or 3rd using the multiple 4ths/5ths

So you've come around this quickly? Trading up is the way to go in this draft.

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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I could definitely see Beane moving around in the draft using some of those later picks - even moving up in the 2nd or 3rd using the multiple 4ths/5ths

I was thinking this yesterday myself.  As another poster has said the bills only have so many roster spots now.  We don't need 10 draft picks.  I'd trade our extra 4th and 5th for a 3rd.  The first 3 rounds of this draft is really deep with starting talent.  We only have 3 of 10 picks in those rounds.  I would say day 2 movement is highly likely. 

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1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said:

So you've come around this quickly? Trading up is the way to go in this draft.

Your opinion.  Doesn't make it fact.  Beane is in a position to do whatever he wants.  Someone will want to move up for a QB most likely.

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2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

So you've come around this quickly? Trading up is the way to go in this draft.

I’m not sure what you mean by “come around”... I never said I didn’t think they should use picks to trade up.  But I’m referring to what i think Beane might do, not what i want him to do. And I’m not talking about trading up in the 1st. 

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I’m not sure what you mean by “come around”... I never said I didn’t think they should use picks to trade up.  But I’m referring to what i think Beane might do, not what i want him to do. And I’m not talking about trading up in the 1st. 

I'm not sure why you feel the need to waffle.  We'll be proven right on draft night.

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I like a trade up with SF. I posted this in the other thread: 

 

Also, with the way free agency has gone down, I actually could see a trade up. If I'm Beane I am doing everything in my power to trade up for Nick Bosa or Q. Williams. At this point I think Oliver might fall. I am working a trade with San Francisco to go get Bosa. They only have six picks. We have ten, and we aren't going to use all of them. If I can get to 2 to draft Bosa and Williams without giving up my 2020 first round pick, I'm doing it. 

 

SF traded their 2020 2nd rounder for Dee Ford. Offer them #9, our 2020 2nd, and maybe a 4th and 5th. Basically they get Dee Ford for dropping from 2 to 9 and get a 4th and 5th. It's a no brainer. They can have Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson too if they want. 

 

I'm not normally a trade up guy. But I simply don't see how we fit 10 draft picks on our roster, and I see 2-3 elite players in this draft. With how free agency played out, I would totally work to jump up, specifically for Bosa or Williams.  

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30 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

With so many FA signings I doubt that trading down in round one is an option (unless it's combined with later trade ups).  

 

However, say hello to trading up if McBeane see a player that they want.

 

They can sit tight and get the 3rd best edge rusher, 2nd-3rd best DT, over draft a TE or they can go get their guy.  They will go get their guy.

A trade back should be the very first option IMO if some QB desperate team Like MIA, Redskins, Titans (team to watch for QB) absolutely want Haskins you should make that move

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3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I like a trade up with SF. I posted this in the other thread: 

 

Also, with the way free agency has gone down, I actually could see a trade up. If I'm Beane I am doing everything in my power to trade up for Nick Bosa or Q. Williams. At this point I think Oliver might fall. I am working a trade with San Francisco to go get Bosa. They only have six picks. We have ten, and we aren't going to use all of them. If I can get to 2 to draft Bosa and Williams without giving up my 2020 first round pick, I'm doing it. 

 

SF traded their 2020 2nd rounder for Dee Ford. Offer them #9, our 2020 2nd, and maybe a 4th and 5th. Basically they get Dee Ford for dropping from 2 to 9 and get a 4th and 5th. It's a no brainer. They can have Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson too if they want. 

 

I'm not normally a trade up guy. But I simply don't see how we fit 10 draft picks on our roster, and I see 2-3 elite players in this draft. With how free agency played out, I would totally work to jump up, specifically for Bosa or Williams.  

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It would probably take our 2nd to move up, and we would be ridiculous to do that for a non-QB.  

 

Pick 40 is prime high level TE/WR territory.  Zero chance I move that pick unless we’re using it to get back into the 1st.  

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3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I like a trade up with SF. I posted this in the other thread: 

 

Also, with the way free agency has gone down, I actually could see a trade up. If I'm Beane I am doing everything in my power to trade up for Nick Bosa or Q. Williams. At this point I think Oliver might fall. I am working a trade with San Francisco to go get Bosa. They only have six picks. We have ten, and we aren't going to use all of them. If I can get to 2 to draft Bosa and Williams without giving up my 2020 first round pick, I'm doing it. 

 

SF traded their 2020 2nd rounder for Dee Ford. Offer them #9, our 2020 2nd, and maybe a 4th and 5th. Basically they get Dee Ford for dropping from 2 to 9 and get a 4th and 5th. It's a no brainer. They can have Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson too if they want. 

 

I'm not normally a trade up guy. But I simply don't see how we fit 10 draft picks on our roster, and I see 2-3 elite players in this draft. With how free agency played out, I would totally work to jump up, specifically for Bosa or Williams.  

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Imo there are 3 positions where the Bills are focused on drafting high OR making a trade to build their young core. So far they have drafted CB, QB, MLB, LT. They are going to go pass rusher, 3 tech, WR next. From all the rumors I think they do want a #1 WR though I’m far from convinced they will do that at 9 because I just don’t think any of the WRs in this draft are top 10 players overall this year. I think they want an established guy first but could take one in the 2nd if the right one is sitting there. They are also heavy after a pass rusher and 3 tech is a very important part of McD’s Defense. I think at 9 they go BPA on DL. 

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